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Support for Trump among Latinos plummets as many feel betrayed over scope of immigration crackdown

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Support For Trump Among Latinos Plummets As Many Feel Betrayed Over Scope of Immigration Crackdown

Summary

Trump's support among Latinos has plummeted as he nears his first 100 days in office, with many saying they feel betrayed by the scope of his policies, particularly immigration enforcement.

Almost three in four Latinos (72%) now disapprove of the way Trump is handling his job as president.

Many Venezuelans, for example, have been impacted by the decision to revoke their Temporary Protected Status (TPS).

“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela— that they're going to come take me somewhere I won't be able to escape from.” “This is completely different from what I thought it was going to be.”

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Oh darn! If only somebody had warned them about what would happen...
- While I upvoted you, and we absolutely did tell them that. Many of them through no fault of their own weren't reached by the message. And that's something we need to figure out how to fix. Because with the consolidation of media and AI, this is only going to get worse.
  Patting ourselves on the back about being right. Will only comfort us so much, when our lack of reach etc. Continues to haunt us
  
  Sticking your head in the sand and/or choosing to only watch extremely partisan news is indeed “fault of their own”. If they can’t be informed enough to make good decisions, perhaps they should simply refrain from voting altogether.
  
  Many of them through no fault of their own weren't reached by the message.
  That's where we disagree. Media bubbles exist but the internet makes it so easy to find opposing viewpoints that failing to do so should absolutely be considered a personal failure. They'd rather believe a comforting lie than confront the truth and that is how shitty people live their lives.
  
  Are you talking about 5 year olds? Otherwise I’m pretty sure everyone we’re talking about was on the planet during Trump’s last term.
  
  Interesting to see a clear problem at scale and have folks tell you it must just be individual failures
  Ya it’s definitely the fault of those lazy low-information Latinos who simply refuse to subscribe to the Economist and read it after their second eight-hour shift
  Also “why don’t the poor just inherit more coal?“
  
  you choose not to engage with the political process
  it’s not anyone else's job to save you from your own choices
- But Trump promised* he wouldn't!
  *Not promised, but strongly implied.^†
  ^†By strongly implied, meaning "at least left open the possibility."^††
  ^††Except for the times he said the opposite thing.^†††
  ^†††This was every time.
I’m just so entirely unsympathetic to absolutely any minority who voted for the overt racist. Like, genuinely, holy fuck, you are genuinely not allowed to be surprised by his racism. It is now, and always was, one of his primary features.
And I have a special tier of bafflement towards the handful of Arab-American communities in the upper Midwest that apparently voted for him, and are now shocked that his policies are way worse than the absolutely horrible and myopic policies of Biden. Genuinely: How in the ever loving fuck are you surprised by that? He tried to ban any non-Saudi Muslims from coming into the country in his first term. How are you possibly surprised. HOW.
- But the leopard promised so many great things. I mean, sure, the leopard DID say outright that he would eat my face, but I thought surely he'd never eat MY face.
- I remember some footage of a Latino Trump supporter giving a black woman shit in Trump's name, and wondering what the ever loving fuck. A variation on Hitler's rise to power is how many figurative Jews threw their full support behind him this time. I don't get it. I'll never get it. I'm sick of his stupid fucking face.
  
  I live in Colombia. People here self-identify as "white," and they're surprised that white people in the US think of them as a different race.
- taps the sign
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
- The capacity of humanity to act against themselves is sometimes a wonder.
I mean, what did they expect?
- "I expected to be the exception! I'm one of the good ones! It wasn't supposed to happen to me."
- Don't worry. There is room in the gas chamber for people in wheel chairs too, you fucking freeloading fat strain on the economy.
It sure sucks when a leopard eats your face.
- But why didn't anyone warn me that they were going to eat -my- face?! I'm a good
  <person with face>
  !!
If you voted Trump as a Latino, that's a special sort of stupid.
- They'll vote for whoever replaces him too. Nobody had learned any real lesson.
- latinos down south have been brainwashed and indoctrinated since thier parents immigrated here decades ago,.
Latinos who voted for Trump deserve everything they get: Trump's "comedian* openly spat in their faces with Trump's full support and they still voted for him.
Pendejos...
"¡Nunca pensé que los leopardos se comerían MI cara!"
- My Spanish is near non-existent but I was still able to read this perfectly.
The fact that any of them voted for him is astounding. Did they not listen to a single word from his mouth about hordes of immigrants watering down the blood of America? Did they not see him drag a Hispanic celebrity (Nicky Jam) on stage, only to reveal, before the entire audience that he had no idea who they were, and in fact thought they were a hot woman?
Like a bunch of turkeys counting down the days to Christmas.
Doesn't really matter what they think of him now, they'll be in an El Salvador concentration camp by the time the next election comes round.
- They, like most people who voted for Trump were more interested in harming "the opposition" failing to realize 90% of people were the opposition despite Trump saying it loud and proud. As a liberal white millionaire I am still confused and concerned at how many idiots I am trying to lift up are encasing their feet in concrete, and a little voice says "maybe it's their nature and you should give them what they ask for."
  I'm disgusted by this all around, don't turn me into what I fucking hate.
How could I know that the guy saying he would deport every fucking immigrant would start deporting every fucking immigrant? It was so unexpected!
No fucking way! I don't feel sorry for any Latinos or Hispanics that voted for Trump. Ya'll are traitors to democracy and our constitution for installing a dictator. You think people would learn from the dictatorship countries they fled.
- Ah, but those were Communist dictatorships. Capitalist dictatorships are a-okay! (or so they thought.)
  
  Scream communist and create a Banana Republic. As long as USA is in charge.
The first sighting of a true leopard in Latin America? or did the Jaguars eat their faces?
- los pumas me comieron la cara
- jaguars and pumas, domestic cats once you pass away
- Latinx
  Don’t say this, just say Latin if you don’t want to gender or people from the Americas if you want to refer to Central/South Americans
  Abrahamic religions are extremely misogynistic and homophobic.
  I agree but you’re ignoring the “i’m one of the good ones” mentality
  Trump says he’s only going after criminals, that couldn’t be me.
  It’s like when he says legal immigrants cheating the system and legal immigrants love it because they know they didn’t cheat so it must be other ones
  But you do highlight why PR isn’t a state. Democrats don’t want another Republican state and Republicans don’t like white people speaking Spanish
Not betrayed. Victims of their own stupidity. A bunch of ladder pullers.
LOL? Betrayed?
This is the fucking party, chuckleheads. They want you gone. Doesn't matter if you were born here.
Stop voting for these motherfuckers. Not one Republican should ever be allowed into office.
"Man says 'ow!' after shooting self in liver - more at 11."
You can say a lot of things about Trump but you can't say he betrayed anyone about his intentions on immigration. Whoever feels betrayed by that simply wanted to be betrayed.
What in the actual fuck did they think was going to happen? He spent his entire campaign specifically saying he was going to do this.
How did they not see this coming?
- It's hard to see without head in the sand.
- Whole lotta people suddenly surprised that Project 2025 wasn't just some "conspiracy theory", too....
- gop smokescreen :blinded by fear of communism, and christianity. even vietnamese people down south are like this, actually viet people in most places.
What's the word for leopard in uh.. Spanish?
- El Opardo!
  Source: i don’t know Spanish at all
- in this case it would jaguars and pumas.
"I just don't understand why he betrayed Us, I mean.. he did nothing but campaign on open contempt for our people, but surely he cant be held accountable for that! This is just so unexpected and blindsiding us!"
just like military vets,"suckers and losers, whats in it for them"-donald trump.
fucking morons
I told them. Not racist totally legit all the Mexicans loved him, every other Hispanic I work with already hated him.
My people, if you believed them I hope you get deported.
You voted to have families torn apart, fuckin traitors. You will never have my respect and I hope you hide in shame.
- Yep. They wanted SOME families torn apart. Just not their own.
  
  Exactly.
Dumb fucks.
- As a ~~Latnino~~ Latino, I agree. Fucking embarrassing.
Something something about leopards eating faces…..
- Even worse, these are people that voted for the leopards that explicitly said they'd eat YOUR faces party, thought they must surely just be joking, or something!
He’s literally just doing what he said he would do. Did they not believe him, or were they too busy watching fake news to bother listening to what he said? I have no sympathy for the ones who voted for him, but unfortunately this affects the majority who didn’t.
- He tells it like it is.
  Also, he didn’t mean what he said.
- A lot of Catholics are socially conservative.
"Latinos" learning that thinking you're "white" isn't the same as having white privilege.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/election-trump-latino-vote-paola-ramos
The question is, will voters learn from this? Will they understand that when the president and his crew are straight up Nazis -- and congressional republicans do nothing to stop them because they support a Nazi agenda -- that the whole Republican party is now a Nazi party?
There won't be any "reasonable" Republicans to vote for going forword; they are all Nazis now.
- will voters learn from this?
  History says no.
  
  I used to live in a heavily Hispanic area, and I can tell you there absolutely will be nothing learned from any of it.
  Cause any Republican attacks against Hispanics were always hand-waved away with some variant of "Of course, they're talking about (insert Hispanic group the speaker hates), not about the good ones like (insert Hispanic group the speaker belongs to). If it wasnt for (hated group) fucking it all up things would be better for all of us!"
  Republicans don't make such distinctions, to Republicans all Hispanics are just Mexicans.
  Which is how the leopards facial feast was laid out.
- It would help if the other side wasn't "vote for us or we'll let the nazis destroy the country to spite you."
There are not nearly enough leopards to handle this amount of face eating.
- in the USA there are pumas and the occasional rare jaguar. plus wolves, and coyotes, and the house cats. maybe some peccaries can join in too, and some imported tigers.
In 2020 the democrats were calling the border wall racist and they won, then in 2024 it was "we're the ones who are actually gonna build the wall, Trump's all talk." They literally tried to position themselves to the right of Republicans on the issue in order to win over the mythical centrists, and predictably what happened was that their support among Latinos broke down.
A lot of these people are religious and conservative, but were willing to vote for Democrats as long as there was substantial differences on race/immigration. But even if they were the "lesser evil" on immigration from a pro-immigrant perspective - something which they denied as hard as they could, by the way - if the difference didn't appear substantial any more, if it was framed in technical arguments about how to do it rather than moral arguments about what to do, then many of them no longer saw it as damning and voted based on other issues where they're more aligned with Republicans.
This is often what swing voters actually look like, by the way, and why pivoting to the right to capture them is often counterproductive. It turns out pivoting right on an issue where doing so directly harms millions of people so you can appeal to the dozen or so people who like Dick Cheney loses elections. Swing voters are a lot more complex than the idiotic "conventional wisdom" that just has everyone at a different point on a one dimensional left-right scale.
Unfortunately a lot of the latino vote comes from the religious, macho, and anti-liberal attitudes they hold. Lots of them are catholic, and even if the republicans are absolutely full of shit when it comes to being “Christian”, their propaganda claiming they are has been very effective. The latter two are in a way perversely tied together. They like macho “strong man” leaders, but unfortunately there are a lot of latin/hispanic countries run by strong man leaders claiming to be liberal leftists that are nothing more than tyrants and authoritarians that wreck their countries. So they vote anti-liberal, associating liberal with tyrants, while supporting yet another “strong man” fascist that will fuck the country up.
*I am not latin, however I worked in a latin country and have worked with several latin/hispanic people and learned what I could about their country, culture and politics, and this is how it was explained to me.
“Today, I feel the same way I felt in Venezuela— that they're going to come take me somewhere I won't be able to escape from.” “This is completely different from what I thought it was going to be.”
This is what wilful stupidity gets you.
Don't even pretend that no one warned you.
- they fell for that authoritarianism is inherent and exclusive to communism. corporate authoritarianism tricked them into thinking it was their only protection from authoritarianism
As a fellow Latino, I feel nothing for them.
Any Latino who voted for trump deserves what’s coming to them. We tried to warn you all.
- deserves what’s coming to them
  I assume it's at least some level of hyperbole, but nobody deserves the concentration camp.
  
  Trump deserves to be in a concentration camp because he remorselessly did it to other people
I still don't get it, why would you, as a Latino, support trump? What the hell were you expecting to happen?
You're that meme of sheep looking at a sign of a wolf saying "I'm going to eat you" and go "I like him, he says it how it is!"
Idiots
Whomp whooomp.
Trump could not have been clearer than he was.
- and emphasized many times.
  "i dont care about you, just your votes" " i dont care if you die, just your votes", "i love the poorly educated"
Barf. You guys were on the chopping block and you stuck your neck out for trump. I forgive you but how can you be so niave??
On a different note there's a new NGO called "Watch for diabetic Leopards" it seems leopards have been overfeeding in the last months and some are getting diabetes due to being overweight
Fucking morons.
If only someone had told them ...
- We never could have seen this coming!
  ^/s
Fucking duh. Latinos here in Canada have been laughing at you.
Every one of these people is an idiot.
After all this still 28% approves? Guess I need to call the White House and ask to tighten the knot a bit more then? /s
I'm sure the Latin community are still having the day they voted for.
- the gop might speak "latin" to be on terms with them. maybe thier pastors can start reading the bible in latin like the old times of catholic.
Dumb fucks. It was obvious.
I’m sure that if they could go back in time, they’d still vote for that man over a woman.
Well, well, well .... LOL.
this is absolutely a leopards ate my face moment but let’s not forget that Latine people are not trump’s base. lots of people make it seem like he won because Latine people voted for him when that’s just not the case.
his base is, remains and always has been white racists.
Now calm down, Ned-dily-diddly-diddly-diddly... they did their best, shoddily-iddly-iddly-diddly... gotta be nice, hostily-iddly-diddly-iddly...Ah hell diddly-ding-dong-crap! Can't you morons do anything right?
Gusanos and Malinches: What the hell did you expect?
Now I'm not an American and definitely not a Latino, but I've heard there's a huge amount of Latinos who hate Latinos and want them all to stay out of the country (I.e fuck you, got mine), which is part of why they vote republican. Also all the Cuban refugees who really hate Cuba so they also vote republican just to make sure democrats don't ease the sanctions on Cuba - which are of course making life hard for people who have not yet escaped Cuba. Hell I bet without the sanctions a lot of people wouldn't be leaving it in the first place.
If all that is true, honestly, this is a peak leopards eating faces moment.
- Also, foreign language propaganda from Republicans claiming democrats are socialists/communists (the kind that ruined Cuba, et Al), aimed at immigrants
- Hate is a strong word, and it's a bit more nuanced than that. There is an internalized hostility that comes from the colonial era, where the way to climb the social ladder was by taking actions to seem more white. Like changing your name, converting, marrying a whiter* person, etc. These changes often explicitly implied rejecting whatever you were before. Anything indigenous was deemed as less than and less worthy than European stuff and therefore bad and to be abandoned.
  And this is where this Hispanic on Hispanic hostility comes from. There is this idea that it is "better" to be on the side of privilege and those below are seen as a threat I.e. (the whites might notice you are not that white if they see you hanging out with those more connected to their roots).
  This distinction is important because it comes not from blind-hate but from intergenerational trauma, as a defense mechanism.
  A lot of modern day Latinos discovered what ttheir ancestors discovered a long time ago: They don't see all the colors you see. The only see non-white.
Latino here, these people are morons
https://youtu.be/3f8SG9wkiFw
he was always going to betray hispanic people, the gop never liked them.
- I see no betrayal here. He said what he was going to do, and the trees voted for the axe.
Almost three in four 😐
More faces are needed to feed the machine
German poet and playwright Berthold Brecht once said something to the effect that only the dumbest calves choose their own butcher.
Delirious electors who chose a demented president are brought back to reality
Dumbasses
The leopards are gonna get diabetes from all the face they're gonna be eating and have eaten.
Duh and/or hello

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