B.C. woman detained at U.S. border, sent to Arizona detention facility in chains

TBF, this is how we treat Americans.

That and threatening to eliminate our country altogether. We're not really feeling the "allies" thing these days. I fairly often visit the USA, but I'm rethinking that now, along with many other Canadians. And I'm taking my money out of the USA too, wherever possible.

The US has allies??

Canada isn't an ally anymore

Since there is a certain psycho suggesting all Americans go to war for their personal protection I will take the opportunity to ride the top comment with this attempt at organizing a general strike in the US.

If I were in charge, that's exactly what I would do. "US ICE agents are detaining Canadian citizens at the border. Until and unless US agents stop detaining Canadians at the border and return those they have detained, we are advising Canadian citizens to not travel to the USA." Post it right next to all other Canadian travel advisories.

Not just Canada, there's similar stories for a lot of nationalities, every country should be putting out warnings.

The US has lost it's mind.

Couple the immigration issues with the fact that planes keep falling out of the sky in their air space due to air traffic control being gutted and even flying to Canada starts becoming dangerous too.

I'll be avoiding the whole of North America for the foreseeable future, it's just not safe.

theres a channel 5 segment on it, the dude decided to cross from mexico with "coyotes" back into the US, as an american, and they got caught. spent several days in shite conditions, and talks about whole process. its pretty interesting.

"Axis of evil" was a phrase coined by W in order to justify his highly illegal "war on terror", and we're still paying the price for that. Just adopting a propaganda concept this stupid as a viable way to categorize nations is not a good move.

That could just be the media's bias in reporting.

I guarantee you they do not care. This is far more likely to be media bias. If they're detaining her for an incomplete visa instead of just turning her around then they're detaining people every day, no matter their nationality or body build. It sounds cool to think they'd be afraid of a large guy but the US police are sadly just more likely to kill them with guns.

Yep, just like how conservatives wanted to ignore aids since they thought it would only kill gays and drug users. They fail to see how their cruelty will come back around on themselves.

I was planning on travelling to California to meet a good friend of mine. I explained that I've had to change plans amist...well, all this, and my friend said something along the lines of "I don't blame you, I wouldn't even consider visiting this country for the next 4 years".

Can they just reject her and turn her back towards Mexico or do they have to deport her to Canada?

It seems the USA's preference is to keep people in inhumane prisons indefinitely without charge, at great expense to US taxpayers. Just turning them around at the border is not considered cruel enough.

25% tariff on all your comments.

Please stop grandstanding lol. There are grassroot leftist movements that have been organizing, setting up mutual aid networks, etc. for years. Guess who has been suppressing those movements? The State and Corporate media. And, man, they got you convinced that 340 million people in one of the most diverse countries in the world somehow all think the same. Obviously we don’t. If we did, it’d be a hell of a lot easier to organize the masses, wouldn’t it?

Launching an attack on the most powerful military in the world is going to require more than pea shooters, my guy. I know this is the first time Canadians have felt a legitimate threat on their democracy in like 200 years, unless your First Nations. Let’s be real— I’m in Texas and you’re in Canada. Odds are you are much closer to D.C. than majority of Americans actually are. You severely underestimate how large and spread out this empire actually is— hence why it is crumbling.

While this may be true for a lot of Americans, plenty are essentially trapped. Our education system basically ensures that we don't have the language skills or cultural understanding to get a decent job in most any other country. And the work style that has been drilled into us since birth isn't welcome in most other countries either.

Many of us have kids born before this path was clearly the way things are going. I wouldn't choose to have kids these days in the US unless I had like family outside the country so I knew I had an escape path.

Those that can leave, have been doing so. The rest are or feel trapped. They simply have too much to lose, and little chance of a decent life if they leave.

I for example can't fight back against my government in the most effective ways because I have kids. And they deserve a chance to make their own decisions about polotics. But if I say damage something important, they won't likely get much of a choice since I won't be able to support them anymore. And because of our healthcare system, no job means extremely substandard healthcare. So like my autistic son would probably never be able to manage his own life. That is the delema many of us face.

You have illustrated just how unhinged you are in the rest of your comments. You don't seem to understand that we are all trying to live our relatively normal lives while also figuring out what to do about this.

Here's a hypothetical: I have two children under 6, my wife works full-time, I work 50 hours a week to keep a roof over my family's heads and food in their mouths, I also make 2/3 of our household income, we have no real support system to speak of. We're in Texas, so the allies I have are extremely limited, and do not include any of my family other than my brother, who doesn't live here. We're trying to figure out how to get out of here but it's difficult and frankly I don't know if we can afford it.

So you're suggesting I do what? Go buy a gun for me and the three able bodied liberals I know (also fathers of young children) , kiss my family goodbye, drive for 2 days, get fired, and go do ourselves a good ol domestic terrorism? So you can feel better about the hell that WE not you are living through? And all because I committed the crime of being born in the wrong place and unable to escape? Get fucked.

This American gets what you’re saying. I’m trying to figure out what I can do without ending up homeless.

As another Canadian: I hate the US government, oligarchs, the loss of separation between church and state, and fascists. The US government has had terrible and negligent policies for much longer than the last 2 months. It's just now there's not even attempts to mask it and not nearly enough official resistance to it. America is being gutted beyond recognition as the same entity it was. I can empathize with what is, frankly, a rant from in4apenny even as I downvoted their post.

However I have many American friends I do NOT hate, and who do not hate me or covet my country. I do NOT agree with the "fuck everyone, you're all a blight" position. I could write many arguments why, but the most important one is for many decades our countries have been stronger for being allies. If I want Canada to be the greatest nation it can be I have to recognize the contribution of a friendly USA that existed basically uninterrupted until two months ago. I 100% support the "elbows up, fight back hard" movement that is sweeping my nation, but with an eye for historical context of shared success. I hope for a return to that friendship when/if you folks manage to restore sanity. But that restoration is either going to be very messy or not happen at all, so we'll see if the elbows ever get to come down again.

Unless you've managed to destroy economic liberalism in your own country, it's happening to you too. That train is going to hit you awfully soon.

Well, if push came to shove, I'd stand with you anyway.

The common folk of the world need to find solidarity. Because this is gonna spread...

Troll

Re: Retorts to this in this thread-

But there is a peculiar behavior among most Caucasians. As soon as I become critical of Europe and its impact on other cultures, they become defensive. They begin to defend themselves. But I am not attacking them personally; I’m attacking Europe. In personalizing my observations on Europe they are personalizing European culture, identifying themselves with it. By defending themselves in this context, they are ultimately defending the death culture. This is a confusion which must be overcome, and it must be overcome in a hurry. None of us has energy to waste in such false struggles.

Caucasians have a more positive vision to offer humanity than European culture. I believe this. But in order to attain this vision it is necessary for Caucasians to step outside European culture — alongside the rest of humanity — to see Europe for what it is and what it does.

• Russel Means (sauce)

note: "Europe" here refers to imported European culture in America

Nah, I'm good thanks.

How about you come down and burn the WH again?

If you feel that strongly, how come you only comment in posts about the US?

Ranting on Lemmy definitely helps, I’m so proud of you.

Who are you, again?

Wall? I thought we upgraded to an Iron Dome?

We need and have always needed a wall around the south, when nafta started they infested my Midwestern town with their crime and drugs and it went to hell overnight.

Sorry you are getting downvoted for being one of today's 10,000

Callous reaction to what is a clear overstep on behalf of US CBP. Denying entry would have been a more efficient move than detainment, unless the cruelty is the point.