OccamsRazer @ OccamsRazer @lemmy.world

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Well in that case there probably isn't a single nation ever that should be proud.

Whose was it? At what point in history was ownership established and why was it not the previously displaced people's instead? How long does it take to establish ownership, and what means are justified to do so? Who exactly is the United States anyway?

Well that wasn't really the question. But actually I met her when we were both pretty young so I don't recall it being much of an issue. We probably talked about kid stuff.

It's not small talk, because i actually care how my wife's day was.

It sounded like maybe you were secretly happy about the murders, or sympathized a little bit. If not, that's my mistake and I apologize.

I'm addressing the victim blaming apologists in this thread. If that isn't you then carry on.

Free speech means being able to say and support things you believe in without the threat of being murdered for it. Any sympathy for the murderer undermines free speech and democratic society. This is not complicated...

Seems like a lot of victim blaming in here. It can be very simple. Don't murder people you disagree with. Also, free speech needs to be protected culturally as well, and not just through the government. But the government must also protect free speech, and that includes protecting people from others. There doesn't need to be a discussion about understanding motives at all. It's wrong and needs to be condemned, full stop. Otherwise you don't have a free country. You can't hand wave it away or shrug just because you understand their motive.

It's illogical to compare them from a moral perspective. You don't get to just shoot people because they have a different perspective than you, because they were raised differently or get their news from different places than you do. It's not exactly whataboutism though, it's more of a false equivalence. Whatever the case, the gunman is not morally justified in murdering these two people. If you think he is, then you are blinded by ideology and shouldn't be allowed to participate in democratic society.

You aren't over reacting. It's a massive false equivalence comparing what Israel has done against the murder of two individuals. The guy that got murdered isn't Israel. He's a person with opinions, right or wrong. He got murdered for a few tweets and an affiliation with Israel. He's not a combatant, but a civilian. Same for his wife. People justifying these murders are flat out wrong, and there's no place in America for ideological murders. In order to have a system where free speech is protected, you can't allow people to be murdered for their views. There is no defending these murders or trying to justify them.

It's mostly a metric people use to prove their superiority over other people, when all of the other metrics for happiness and success suggest otherwise.

There's nobody to speak for the woman either way. This wouldn't be a clear issue in any state.

Why would the goal be to make women miserable? Like what's the point?

Any time it mentions kids or safety i get suspicious that it really means spying on us or giving a bunch of money to cronies.

It's pretty hard to take you seriously tbh.

You got a lot of anger bud.

What are you even talking about.

It's still way up from a year ago. The insane climb after the election was unsupported hype, which has been corrected. Say what you want about tesla, but the stock price looks pretty healthy.

My only real problem with the narrative in this thread is with distilling the catholic church down to pedophile ring. It's super reductive, ignoring so much history and the world views of so many decent people in light of a single issue. But just to be clear, I get that it's a serious issue and they did a very poor job in dealing with it.

Mad about what? Your uninformed and salty opinion? You aren't the first edgelord I've met on the internet...