AI is rotting your brain and making you stupid

Either to take a very long time to get to the point, or to go off on a tangent.

Writing concisely is a lost art, it seems.

To "waffle" comes from the 1956 movie Archie and the Waffle House. It's a reference how the main character Archie famously ate a giant stack of waffles and became a town hero.

— AI, probably

Yeah that’s a big part of it…shifting off the stuff that we don’t think is important (and probably isn’t). My view is that it’s escalated to where I’m using my phone calculator for stuff I did in my head in high school (I was a cashier in HS so it was easy)…which is also not a big deal but getting a little bigger than the phone number thing. From there, what if I used it to leverage a new programming API as opposed to using the docs site. Probably not a big deal but bigger than the calculator thing to me. My point is that it’s all these little things that don’t individually matter but together add up to some big changes in the way we think. We are outsourcing our thinking which would be helpful if we used the free capacity for higher level thinking but I’m not sure if we will.

One example: getting arrested

You might not. But you might (especially with this current admin). Cops will never let you use your phone after you've been detained. Unless you go free the same night, expect to never have a phone call with anyone but a lawyer or bail bonds agency.

It allows people who can't do things to create filler content instead of dropping the ball entirely. The person relying on the AI will not be part of the dialogue for very long, not because of automation, but because people who can't do things are softly encouraged to get better or leave, and they will not be getting better.

It’s true, honestly: and that is a problem. It’s so concerning. I’m not going to say it isn’t. I suppose I was just stating what I believe to be, how it should be.

The problem is if it's wrong, you have no way to know without double checking everything it says

Well creating the slide was a form of cognitive offloading, but barely you still had to know how to use and what formula to use. Moving to the pocket calculator just change how you the it didn't really increase how much thinking we off loaded.

but this is something different. With infinite content algorithms just making the next choice of what we watch amd people now blindly trusting whatever llm say. Now we are offloading not just a comolex task like sqrt of 55, but "what do i want to watch", "how do i know this true".

But when it works, it can save a lot of time.

But we only need it because Google Search has been rotted out by the decision to shift from accuracy of results to time spent on the site, back in 2018. That, combined with an endlessly intrusive ad-model that tilts so far towards recency bias that you functionally can't use it for historical lookups anymore.

LLMs are a great tool

They're not. LLMs are a band-aid for a software ecosystem that does a poor job of laying out established solutions to historical problems. People are forced to constantly reinvent the wheel from one application to another, they're forced to chase new languages from one decade to another, and they're forced to adopt new technologies without an established best-practice for integration being laid out first.

The Move Fast And Break Things ideology has created a minefield of hazards in the modern development landscape. Software development is unnecessarily difficult and overly complex. Proprietary everything makes new technologies too expensive for lay users to adopt and too niche for big companies to ever find experienced talent to support.

LLMs are the breadcrumb trail that maybe, hopefully, might get you through the dark forest of 60 years of accumulated legacy code and novel technologies. They're a patch on a patch on a patch, not a solution to the fundamental need for universally accessible open-sourced code and well-established best coding practices.

Same here. I never tried it to write code before but I recently needed to mass convert some image files. I didn't want to use some sketchy free app or pay for one for a single job. So I asked chatgpt to write me some python code to convert from X to Y, convert in place, and do all subdirectories. It worked right out of the box. I was pretty impressed.

Ain't skeerd

"digging thru trash and bunch of obscure websites for info, using critical thinking to filter and refine your results"

You're highlighting a barrier to learning that in and of itself has no value. It's like arguing that kids today should learn cursive because you had to and it exercises the brain! Don't fool yourself into thinking that just because you did something one way that it's the best way. The goal is to learn and find solutions to problems. Whatever tool allows you to get there the easiest is the best one.

Learning through textbooks and one way absorption of information is not an efficient way to learn. Having the ability to ask questions and challenge a teacher (in this case the AI), is a far superior way to learn IMHO.

Yeah, the people who were used to the oral tradition said the same thing about writing stuff down, 'If you don't remember all of this stuff yourself you'll be bad at remembering!', etc. But this is what humans do, what humans are: we evolved to make tools, we use the tools to simplify the things in our life so we can spend more time working on (and thinking about - or do you sincerely think people will just stop thinking altogether?) the shit we care about. Offloading mental labor likewise lets us focus our mental capacities on deeper, more important, more profound stuff. This is how human society, which requires specialization and division of labor at every level to function, works.

I'm old enough to remember when people started saying the same thing about the internet. Well I've been on the internet from pretty much the first moment it was even slightly publicly available (around 1992) and have been what is now called 'terminally online' ever since. If the internet is making us dumb I am the best possible candidate you could have to test that theory, but you know what I do when I'm not remembering phone numbers and handwriting everything and looking shit up in paper encyclopedias at the library? I'm reading and thinking about science, philosophy, religion, etc. That capacity didn't go away, it just got turned to another purpose.

No, fear and hatred lead to things like MAGA and the rise of Nazis. Social media makes it easier to fearmonger and spread hatred, no doubt, but it is by no means the cause of those things.

I think you are underestimating that some skills, like reading comprehension, deliberate communication and reasoning skills, can only be acquired and honed by actually doing very tedious work, that can at times feel braindead and inefficient. Offloading that on something else (that is essentially out of your control, too), and making that a skill that is more and more a fringe "enthusiast" one, has more implications, than losing the skill to patch up your own clothing or calculating things in your head. Understanding and processing information and communicating it to yourself and others is a more essential skill than calculating by hand.

I think the way the article compares it with walking to a grocery store vs. using a car to do even just 3 minutes of driving is pretty fitting. By only thinking about efficiency, one is in risk of losing sight of the additional effects actually doing tedious stuff has. This also highlights, that this is not simply about the technology, but also about the context in which it is used - but technology also dialectically influences that very context. While LLMs and other generative AIs have their place, where they are useful and beneficial, it is hard to untangle those from genuinely dehumanising uses. Especially in a system, in which dehumanisation and efficiency-above-contemplation are already incentivised. As an anecdote: A few weeks ago, I saw someone in an online debate openly stating, they use AI to have their arguments written, because it makes them "win" the debate more often - making winning with the lowest invested effort the goal of arguments, instead of processing and developing your own viewpoint along counterarguments, clearly a problem of ideology as it structures our understanding of ourselves in the world (and possibly just a troll, of course) - but a problem, that can be exacerbated by the technology.

Assuming AI will just be like the past examples of technology scepticism seems like a logical fallacy to me. It's more than just letting numbers be calculated, it is giving up your own understanding of information you process and how you communicate it on a more essential level. That, and as the article points out with the studies it quotes - technology that changes how we interface with information has already changed more fundamental things about our thought processes and memory retention. Just because the world hasn't ended does not mean, that it did not have an effect.

I also think it's a bit presumptuous to just say "it's true" with your own intuition being the source. You are also qualifying that there are "lazy/dumb" people as an essentialist statement, when laziness and stupidity aren't simply essentialist attributes, but manifesting as a consequence of systematic influences in life and as behaviours then adding into the system - including learning and practising skills, such as the ones you mention as not being a "bad thing" for them to become more esoteric (so: essentially lost).

To highlight how essentialism is in my opinion fallacious here, an example that uses a hyperbolic situation to highlight the underlying principle: Imagine saying there should be a totally unregulated market for highly addictive drugs, arguing that "only addicts" would be in danger of being negatively affected, ignoring that addiction is not something simply inherent in a person, but grows out of their circumstances, and such a market would add more incentives to create more addicts into the system. In a similar way, people aren't simply lazy or stupid intrinsically, they are acting lazily and stupid due to more complex, potentially self-reinforcing dynamics.

You focus on deliberately unpleasant examples, that seem like a no-brainer to be good to skip. I see no indication of LLMs being exclusively used for those, and I also see no reason to assume that only "deep, rigorous thinking" is necessary to keep up the ability to process and communicate information properly. It's like saying that practice drawings aren't high art, so skipping them is good, when you simply can't produce high art without, often tedious, practising.

Highlighting the problem in students cheating to not be "properly educated" misses an important point, IMO - the real problem is a potential shift in culture, of what it even means to be "properly educated". Along the same dynamic leading to arguing, that school should teach children only how to work, earn and properly manage money, instead of more broadly understanding the world and themselves within it, the real risk is in saying, that certain skills won't be necessary for that goal, so it's more efficient to not teach them at all. AI has the potential to move culture more into that direction, and move the definitions of what "properly educated" means. And that in turn poses a challenge to us and how we want to manifest ourselves as human beings in this world.

Also, there is quite a bit of hand-waving in "homework structured in such a way that AI cannot easily do it, etc." - in the worst case, it'd give students something to do, just to make them do something, because exercises that would actually teach e.g. reading comprehension, would be too easy to be done by AI.

This has happened with every generation when a new technology changes our environment, and our way of defending ourselves is to reject it or exaggerate its flaws.

Because throughout history, many tools have existed, but over time they have fallen into disuse because too many people and/or there is a faster method that people use. But you can use that old tool.

Imagine if the human race never had to do dishes ever again. Imagine how that would create so much opportunity to focus on more important things.

What are the most important things? Our dishwasher broke a few years ago. I anticipated frustration at the extra pressure on my evenings and having to waste time on dishes. But I immediately found washing the dishes to be a surprising improvement in quality of life. It opened up a space to focus on something very simple, to let my mind clear from other things, to pay attention to being careful with my handling of fragile things, and to feel connected to the material contents of my kitchen. It also felt good to see the whole meal process through using my own hands from start to end. My enjoyment of the evenings improved significantly, and I'd look forward to pausing and washing the dishes.

I had expected frustration at the "waste" of time, but I found a valuable pause in the rhythm of the day, and a few calm minutes when there was no point in worrying about anything else. Sometimes I am less purist about it and I listen to an audiobook while I wash up, and this has exposed me to books I would not have sat down and read because I would have felt like I had to keep rushing.

The same happened when my bicycle broke irreparably. A 10 minute cycle ride to work became a 30 minute walk. I found this to be a richer experience than cycling, and became intimately familiar with the neighbourhood in a way I had never been while zipping through it on the bike. The walk was a meditative experience of doing something simple for half an hour before work and half an hour afterwards. I would try different routes, going by the road where people would smile and say hello, or by the river to enjoy the sound of the water. My mind really perked up and I found myself becoming creative with photography and writing, and enjoying all kinds of sights, sounds and smells, plus just the pleasure of feeling my body settle into walking. My body felt better.

I would have thought walking was time I could have spent on more important things. Turned out walking was the entryway to some of the most important things. We seldom make a change that's pure gain with no loss. Sometimes the losses are subtle but important. Sometimes our ideas of "more important things" are the source of much frustration, unhappiness and distraction. Looking back on my decades of life I think "use as much time as possible for important things" can become a mental prison.