Baldur's Gate 3 dev calls Randy Pitchford's $80 Borderlands 4 comments "gross" because it implies the FPS is more important than "making it day to day"

Bitchford wishes he could be part of something that was even near a single iota of the same quality of BG3.

he did though? borderlands 1, 2, pre sequel, and 3
- I'm a Borderlands fan, but it absolutely isn't even in the same universe of quality as BG3. Borderlands is dumb, pretty shitty and lost quality with each game. It's mindless fun, like B movie popcorn flicks.
- Damn, I'm sorry.
  Hope you get to play something that isn't pure dogshit one of these days.
- lol
- Yeah and they didn't cost $80.

Look, you can charge whatever you want.

"Is your game worth $80 to average gamers dealing with (gestures broadly at state of world economy)?"

That is the question every studio executive needs to ask themselves.

Given the recent trends in AAA-funded projects, for the most part, that answer is "Oh, hell no."

If Ubisoft can convince themselves that Skull and Bones was the first "quadruple A game" and worth $70, then I doubt most studio execs can pull their heads out their ass for long enough to properly ask themselves that. Studios have completely lost touch with what people actually want and are willing to pay.
- I just think it's funny. Big game corpos failing is just hilarious. I'm glad Larian is doing well tho.

I didn't even buy Borderlands 3 for $60 and there's no way in hell I'd pay $80 for something similar. I spent the full price of Baldur's Gate 3 for myself and two of my friends for a total of $180. Make the game worth it and you have my money. If the development cost of games has gone up then prove it and make better games.

I thought BL3 tanked so I'm pretty surprised they think they can charge this month. Did it review poorly and still sell well??
- It and it's DLC sold just fine because BL3 is miles above BL2 in gameplay (though yes it's story and voice acting are painful, 2 hasn't aged as well as many of us might remember it did in that regard, either)
  Tbh I expect the same thing for this one: better gameplay, worse writing

Yeah, inflation is a thing. But so is increasing volumes in sales with low cost distribution of the product.

After a game is made now, the only cost is distribution now, and games sell in larger volumes than ever before, making more money than ever before. A game like BL4? Even if they spent $300,000,000 making the game they only need to sell 6,000,000 copies to recoup costs at $70. BL3 has sold 18,000,000 copies. A huge profit, even if most of those sales were on sale prices. BL3 was made and advertised with a 140 million dollar budget.

Not to mention, all of the dlc that'll inevitably be released, following every other borderlands game pattern. Wonder what they'll try to set the prices of those at
- DLC now costs $60. If you can’t afford it, sell a kidney /s.

I haven't bought full price games in ages. Games are always released half finished now. Wait six months to a year until it goes on sale and they actually finish the game.

The only game I paid full price in recent years was BG3, because it’s worth it, and the people who worked in the game were worth it.
- yea, but BG3 didn't release in a complete state. With that said, Larian has delivered on their promise and that's really a good example of how a AA/AAA title can do early access in a good and healthy way.
I'll gladly buy indies, breakout titles with huge reception (BG3, E33 etc), or games from well renowned studios that have yet to let me down. Anything else I'm fine waiting for a sale. With these $80 price tags I don't see myself buying a AAA title again for a LONG time.
- I felt that way about CyberPunk 2077 and CDPR.
  CDPR hadn't let me down. Yet. Ultimately, they redeemed themselves, sure, but at launch.... whew, there were issues.
  Game companies CAN redeem themselves. Business wise though? Its hard to recoup that kind of shaken faith in investors, board members, etc; let alone the people you're actually trying to sell to.
  There are so MANY fucking games out there these days, that I'll look at something new, and decide I don't like certain elements of the gameplay, and just move on.
  If a feature looks more frustrating than fun? I'm good, thanks.
  I've played hard games on the hardest setting for the challenge. I've also played "easy" just to get drunk and enjoy a story.
  If it isn't fun though? Then what am I doing here?
  I already spend 8+ hours a day on the computer and hate it, but at least they pay me.
I honestly can't remember the last time I paid full price for a game. Between free amazon prime games, epic games, gog, and steam demos/freebies: I hardly have time to invest in new games.
I used to buy Madden/NBA2k every year up until 2008 or so, now I grab one every five years at $10. Includes all the bugs from the previous version.
I have 1000s of games now and don't have any time to play them. BG3 is the only game I'm considering spending $40 for.

I bought borderlands 2 the other week and it's been a blast on my SteamDeck. Unfortunately it seems it's one of those games that loves to connect online all the time, like it'll kick me out of single player if it detects wifi and make me reload into... singleplayer, but online. with 0 differences.

I probably would've been better off pirating it tbh.

Greasy Randy isn't exactly known for being not gross prior to the comment either

There once was a game that was not free
The head of the game was big Randy
He joked one day with a cheery grin
Real fans would pay the fee HUAGH

Soon may the pirates come
To snag some games and have their fun
One day, when the cracks are done
We'll take our games and go

We need piracy guides for linux users as well, brother/sister
- Do you really need a guide? It works exactly the same as Windows. The only difference is you need to run it through WINE with Proton. That's easiest handled with Heroic Launcher or Lutris, which you're probably already using one of these already. Just add the executable and launch it. (You may need to run an installer first, which Heroic at least makes really easy.)

Every Corporate asshole: "Give me all your money, you don't need to eat, sleep, or live. If you don't, you're not cool like me!"

So sick of dropping asshole companies because of idiots constantly pushing this garbage. Oh well.

"But I was trained in management school to think of people as nothing more than numbers! It's not my fault!" - corpo piece of shit.

I’ll buy this when it’s $20 with all expansions in two years.

It’s not because of Randy Bobandy here, him making an inane, alienating comment is his gimmick at this point and should be expected. It’s t because I found that if I play a game on release I end up playing the worst version of the game. And then I never play expansions because I rarely replay games and I’m not about to play an expansion to a game I haven’t played in a year without replaying the base game again.

So I buy games a year late, at half the price. I love gaming.

Love doing this with modern atlus games. Cant wait to buy the "royal golden reloaded remaster collection" edition for $20 from a used/third party retailer.

Charge what you want but don’t be cocky about it, easy.

Here's really important thing that the likes of randy don't want to know. I would actually pay $80 for Baldur's Gate 3, because that product is actually worth it. You can actually see where your money is going what it's paying for.

But Borderlands, really? I was already not interested in this game, but why would anyone pay $80 for, at best, an AA game?

They're really just milking what nostalgia still remains for a franchise that people have largely moved on from.
They could instead try to boldly reinvent it to grab new customers, but I'm not seeing it.
I'd sooner spend it on a "AA" game than an AAA game, frankly

Damn. I honestly had no interest in Borderlands anymore, but this has inspired me to pirate Borderlands 4 just as a fuck you.

Borderlands 3 was fun but like a final piece to this genre. Many guns, amusing storyline, corny humor and great world design.

I thought it would be Swen making the comment, happily surprised to see it's someone else at Larian.

Real fans would find a way to wait for the game to go on sale for $2.

it's incredible that pitchford is still allowed to talk. there should be a bot that auto-responds "shut the fuck up" to everything he says, tweets, or even thinks.

hey I'll let you price this 80 bucks if you fully refund me for the scam that was borderlands 1. fucking unfinished piece of shit, i can't believe i played that game for multiple hours hoping it would improve beyond the first.

and later i learned that i was completely right to quit that shit because the bullshit throwaway story of this "rpg" doesn't even conclude properly. it literally ends like Geraldo Rivera's fucking Al Capone vault.

fuck you pitchford. shut the fuck up and go back to "storing porn for the purposes of researching magic tricks" or whatever. literally never speak again.

Welp looks like it's know what the next jimquisition is going to be on.

I mean, extremely low hanging fruit there...

Guess I will wait for Dale then. I didn't even finish the last borderlands