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Most Americans see Trump as "dangerous dictator," poll says

www.axios.com

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A majority of Americans say President Trump is a "dangerous dictator" who poses a threat to democracy and believe he's overstepped his authority by actions such as the mass firing of federal employees, a new survey says.

The wide-ranging poll released Tuesday, on Trump's 100th day in office, is the latest sign of him losing support for his immigration and economic policies — the two issues that largely fueled his election.

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For example, most Americans (61%) disagree that the federal government should place immigrants who are in the country illegally in internment camps guarded by the U.S. military until they can be deported.
Only 61%? Have I lost my fucking mind? This feels unbelievable to read.
- I think the biggest thing I learned this last election is just how much of the country are HUGE pieces of shit. I thought there were maybe 15-20% that were on board with this Nazi shit. It's well over double that.
  We fucked up during Reconstruction, and we fucked up again after WWII. Every single Confederate/Nazi should've been disposed of and never allowed to have any influence whatsoever. Instead the cancer has metastasized to every single organ in the body.
  
  I think your original estimate is correct, but the problem is that they've captured enough media outlets that sow doubt about right-wingers' true natures to make another 20-30% just uncertain enough to vote for the nazis.
  Agree with your remediation, though. Confederates, Nazis, and J6ers are enemies of the state and should be forever barred from holding public office.
  
  We have to learn our lesson and not repeat it no matter how many crocodile tears are pleas to Civility and mercy there are, even if they come from liberals. Not going far enough is a bigger risk than going too far
  
  Sherman had the right idea.
  
  Operation Paperclip would like to have a word.
  
  Yeah, unfortunately it’s about 1/3 of the country
- Right? Like I thought everyone agreed the Japanese internment camps was a dark spot on our history.
  Guess it's just because we like the Japanese now?
  
  Yeah. I'm in Merced, CA, which was one of the initial collection points for detained Japanese Americans before they were put in the internment camps. We have a little memorial at the fair grounds, which is where they were collected up at. I've always believed that people 50, 100, 200, and 2000 years ago really aren't fundamentally different than people today, and anyone today who professes to be disgusted by Jim Crow but still embraces modern forms of oppression would have embraced Jim Crow back then. We're seeing that now. These folks, without even a second thought, will eagerly embrace Hispanic internment camps while denouncing the Japanese internment camps as something that never should have happened, and dismiss any semblance with a thought terminating "but this is different."
  
  I thought everyone agreed the Japanese internment camps was a dark spot on our history.
  They did, but a frightening percentage of the population were bothered that it didn't go far enough.
  Edit: in other words, vastly different reasons why some thought it was a dark spot.
- For any election anywhere, approximately 35% are going to be batshit. 61% is super close to "everyone who isn't batshit" category. That's an amazing election number.
  
  If that’s true, sounds like NOW is the time to ACT since we aren’t picking up anyone else. Right?
  
  That fact is going to haunt me in the late hours of the day. I didn't think that the second standard deviation of political views equated to "absolutely batshit insane".
- Consider that surveys also indicate that 30-40% of the US are essentially “Trump No Matter What” people. Maybe some variation depending on the issue.
  So 60% isn’t too far off the mark for people not supporting everything trump does.
  E: 48.3% of registered voters voted for Harris. Maybe if that extra ~12% of Americans that are unhappy about Trump had gotten off their asses and voted we might be complaining about a crappy Neo-Liberal instead of a straight up fascist takeover.
  
  Day 100 of not letting it be forgotten that the republicans led a massive, distributed campaign of targeted vote rejection. They spent years getting true believers and laws and rules to support them put into place throughout states and counties, and it bore fruit. There was a disproportionately high number of ballot challenges this last election, and black folks got their ballots tossed a staggering 900% more often than white folks. There's likely a very large number of people who thought they voted in this last election and have no idea that their ballot got tossed. This is the real shit that that dumbfuck starlink conspiracy buried. I'm still in awe that the Kamalampaign just basically shrugged and went "okie dokie! Pack your bags, Katy Perry, party's over!" instead of doing the normal investigations, challenges, etc. Mind you, some of that IS normal, and double checking via the courts is a good thing to do; not like the Trump campaign and its like 300 bullshit ass claims, but more like ten or twelve claims with some actual weight.
- 61% disagree, 19% agree, 20% are worried that if they answer wrong they'll be next
WHAT!?!?! The guy that said he would be a dictator on day one is a dictator on day one!?!?! Who could have seen this coming!?!?!
Start running polls asking if they think the military should forcefully remove him. Get everyone on board and used to the idea
- If they don't, someone else will
Take the MAGA cult out of the poll and it's more like high 60s to low 70s.
- That seems low to me.
  
  There's the ostrich/head in the sand types who stay oblivious on purpose.
  
  Some people are racist/transphobic enough to put up with bad policy as long as it allows them to persecute their chosen group.
- So roughly 70% of sane Americans recognize we’re living under a dictator and yet we do hardly anything in revolt. Do they not realize that by the time the gas chambers are on our soil it’ll be too late?
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hands_Off_protests
  I disagree that there’s no one doing anything. The largest protest in US history happened. And two motherfuckers tried to get him got. I obviously don’t endorse violence but it’s an action.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_chamber#United_States
- We need to socially shun MAGAs. No positions of leadership for them anymore
He has torn apart in 100 days a country that took almost 250 years to build.
- It's quite the achievement of malice and desperation.
  I hate the orange shitgibbon. I absolutely detest that moving sack of human effluence, but you've got to give him credit where it's due. 250 years of diplomacy down the shitter in less than 100 days.
  I can only hope that history will treat him the way he deserves to be treated and that his sycophants get the same.
- All this talk of the Roman Empire and all has been because they intend to hand over all authority to Trump. Just like the Roman Senate did for Caesar.
- Clearly the system has major flaws that got us here, such as not enabling the judicial branch to enforce laws, first past the post voting leading to a two party system, non-mathematical districting enabling gerrymandering, etc.
  The biggest one though, is forming the country around capitalism, which enables people who seek power to obtain it via exploiting people for profit. The now-powerful then use their power to buy the government so that they could be allowed to exploit people further for more short term financial gain.
  If the workers owned the businesses they worked for and if we had a hard wealth cap of $50m by taxing everything over that at 100%, no single person would be able to obtain that kind of power/influence to begin with.
Where was this fucking majority in November!?!
Useless cunts.
- They were protest voting because Harris wasn't good enough, so now they hold their heads high that they didn't vote for the person who wasn't strong enough against genocide while the genocide accelerationist tries to speedrun the bad end.
You guys should start actually rebelling.
@Absaroka Problem is most voting americans seem to be to dumb to spot it when there still is a choice.
who could possibly have seen this coming, except everyone. He literally is doing all the things he said he was gonna do. Surprised much?
- And his cultists repeatedly say they're overjoyed with how horrible he's being. This country is absolutely cooked.
They're coming for you! These concentration camps are for you!
80 Billion all itemized for your oppression and death.
- And fuck Biden for not dismantling the existing apparatus for it while he had the chance.
Ok, so why didn't the majority vote against him then??
- He's also racist. It's a slippery slope.
- Because genocide or some shit
Almost like these people should have voted for Harris then or some shit. Who would have known, right? 🙄
- All the DNC needed to do was condemn Israel's genocide in Gaza and to stop enabling it. Instead, we have to deal with this shit. Maybe they'll learn and they can be swing to actual progressive, but I won't hold my breath.
  
  That's not true at all. Online liberals would have found some other thing to crucify Harris over. The idea that some of you guys didn't support a candidate because of the actions of a foreign government, is simply baffling to me.
- Yeah but for sure you can't vote for a woman!?!
  
  I voted for Clinton and Harris enthusiastically. Are they perfect candidates? No. No candidate is perfect, and that's the problem with online leftists. Seemingly, they will only get off the couch when they have 100% of what they want. This is also why the party doesn't court leftists in this country. Because even if they give them 80% of what they want, that 20% will keep them on the internet complaining they're not getting that 20.
All of these polls are completely useless. Trump has a 30-40% base of supporters. So naturally, all polls about Trump will show a majority against him.
Unfortunately, 30-40% is more than enough.
Cause another 50%+ will never resist in any way, and will still plead "this must be a mistake" when the brownshirts break down their door, take their life savings, and order their daughter to undress in front of them.
30% support is what the Nazis in Germany had, with 10% actual Nazi party members.
Those are some bleak fucking numbers
Almost as if Harris and the DNC should have tried harder, and the dumbasses who stayed home should have held their noses and voted.
They should fucking do something.
Imagine if their constitution gave them the right to do something about it...
Oh well 🤷
Hmm it’s almost as if people are catching on to the Terracotta Tyrant! And that only after checks notes a career of grifting, skirting the law and intimidation, four years of a failed presidency, a lost election, and a campaign full of tyrannical rhetoric.
Phew, it’s a good thing the American People (TM) so quickly recognize people for who and what they really are.
They sure seem reluctant to do something about him though.
"This guy is a real threat, he's dangerous! He's a dictator, he shouldn't be in power!"
"Alright, you're the people, go do something about it."
"Ehhh..."

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