Trump Justice Department says it has fired employees involved in prosecutions of the president
Trump Justice Department says it has fired employees involved in prosecutions of the president
At least all that stuff about a weaponized DOJ is over right?
The only thing worse than Russia is a wannabe Russia that had a feasible choice.
The only thing that Americans can do is obvious and yet all I've seen online is finger wagging and "hot takes". Fucking embarassed for you.
If we protest we lose our jobs which means we lose our healthcare. Are you beginning to see how they have us by the balls?
Wouldn't that even more of a reason to protest? It's almost a meme at this point, but the US is the only developed country without universal healhcare. But people keep voting for the party that countless times has threatened to cut even Medicare.
And if a random dude in Germany knows this, every voter in Bumfuck, Nebrahoma should, too, but here we are.
And our homes, meaning our family members also become homeless
If someone has you by the balls and they won't let go, then cut off their hand.
organize, unionize, the second best time is now
There's a reason every American was raised on the mantra of "violence is never the answer" and "if you fight back you're just as bad."
Americans can vote, and a majority of them voted for this a short few months ago. This is exactly what he said he would do. This is what he did the previous 4 years he was in power. Americans want this. They don't even have the excuse of popular vote this time around. They fully committed to this.
thinking that voting is the only necessary political action is how you all boiled the frog
49% of voters, about a 3rd of eligible voters
Yup.
As an American I can confirm that Americans are fucking stupid.
Hope you're comfortable with us having the most powerful military to ever exist. I'm certainly not.
If only there was an amendment for that very situation...
All the 2A nutjobs who have been waiting their entire lives for this turned into fucking crickets.
The nutjobs still think he's on their side, unfortunately.
Huh, fired? For what cause?
A criminal is the head of the governing body that makes the laws. Why even bother asking why he's not following them?
Attempted justice.
Oh don't worry about that -they're reclassifying then as at-will first. Which is the crookedest hiring policy ever. We have it here in Illinois and it's total bullshit.
"cause what are you going to do about it?" Apparently
Its US. You can be fired at any time. What do you think this is? Europe?
By private companies. Federal employees have a lot more protections.
Literally, from the article:
It was also not immediately known how many of the fired prosecutors intended to challenge the terminations by arguing that the department had cast aside civil service protections afforded to federal employees
That tells me federal employees have different rules and they may have a path to make things uncomfortable for a while. Whether that's worth the effort is up to them.
I live in a at-will right to work state, so I understand that. But not every state is an at-will right to work state, and surely the way federal employees are treated is legislated differently and not on a state level. Do federal employees have zero protections?
Fascism is here. Causes aren't required anymore.
The BS reason they gave is in the article. We all know the real reason is that they aren't loyal to Dear Leader.
Probably because they think he is incompetent and should be in jail. If your employees don't respect you and think you should be in jail, then they might not be a good fit.
The system didn't fail them, voters did.
If being convicted of 34 felony counts of fraud and civil liability for rape did nothing to persuade voters then there was nothing Jack Smith could have done to change their minds either.
This is the real nail in the coffin.
Take Trump and Republicans entirely out of the equation and you're still left with a majority of braindead stupid Americans. That problem ain't going away anytime soon.
Our populace simply isn't intelligent enough to maintain a democracy.
We're cooked.
This is the mental dead end I reach every time. It’s not even just “elections have consequences” or “voters are frustrated.” It’s that huge numbers of Americans are passionate supporters of this specific monster. Many of them have bad reasons, or are ignorant, or have been deceived, but the support that matters is there.
Things like the electoral college, FPTP, and gerrymandering are serious problems we need to fix. But fixing those will not fix the hearts and minds of the people. There is so much more that has to change.
It has had me seriously wondering if whatever hellish stuff Trump’s handlers have planned to dismantle the government is going to be the FASTER way to get to the part where we rebuild something better.
While voters do share some responsibility, they correctly mobilized and ripped this asshole out of office 5 years ago. The voters were failed by Merrick Garland, who clearly didn't think treason or insurrection were that big of a deal.
Yeah, but that took an unprecedented situation (once in a century pandemic) and a million+ dead Americans. He absolutely would have won a second term if COVID didn't happen.
American voters are pretty goddamn stupid and there's really no way around that.
This is just the start. He's going to purge every competent person who believes in the national mythology / shows an ounce of backbone and replace them with incompetent yes men. These people tend to be very intelligent, resourceful, and well-connected. I don't think this will be the last we see of them. Something tells me that giving a whole lot of people who plotted the overthrows of multiple foreign governments lots of time off together maybe isn't his most brilliant idea yet.
Straight from the Project 2025 manual. It's crazy that I tried to get people to read it before the election and I got called a conspiracy theorist, but here he is actually executing the plan and these same people just deny it's happening. I can't help but think they prefer to be ignorant.
Unfortunately it's always a conspiracy theory until it's put into action. But by then it's too late...
It's exactly like the Nazi problem. To most people they aren't officially Nazis until we're literally being shipped into death camps. Anything that happens before that is just "awkward waves" and "political disagreements."
:(
Yep, had republicans I know believe Trump when he said he knew nothing about P2025, now here they are following it to the letter.
Welcome to 1930s Germany.
A bunch of ignorant, uneducated people experiencing economic hardship that vote in a proto-authoritarian out of desperation because their minds were warped by propaganda and hatred.
Expect things to get much worse.
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Fired on what grounds? Can a suit, perhaps many, be filed for wrongful termination?
Ordinarily you'd need ground for dismissal, yes. But one of the first things Trump did was follow the plan for Project 2025 which included, amongst other things, reclassifying a fuck ton of government jobs as political jobs, enabling Trump to hire and fire people for political reasons.
In almost everywhere in the US, you can fire anyone, at any time, for any reason, or for no reason at all, as long as it's not because of membership in a protected class (age, sex, gender, national origin, etc.). (Or, obviously, if there's union or other rules around it.)
There is a process for suing the federal government for wrongful termination, but idk how it would work when you're dealing with the actual Justice Department
The Justice Department can be sued. You don't need them on your side in order to file a lawsuit. How far the Supreme Court will go to rubber stamp it is an open question. And by the time it gets resolved one way or another it'll be way past the firing.
Sue him. Inundate him with lawsuits regardless of the fact he's already gotten away with being a criminal so that the courts are forced to give attention to the numbers of wrongfully terminated gov't employees
Let the Gleichschaltung begin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung
https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/germany-1933-democracy-dictatorship/
Good luck USA. Don't stop fighting.
"The horse has fired the horse catcher."
"I didn't know he could do that."
Can we find a way to rehire these people in some kind of public legal defense force to fight back against the administration? I would love that. Keep doing the same work just outside of the DOJ.
Oh yea, they did such a great job last time.
Hey now, America won't idly stand by while Russia and China illegally annex territories. We're just late to the party, had to find Greenland on a map first.
Greenland is just cover for the other two.
Remember when they admonished Biden's administration for not firing anyone after the Afghanistan evacuation? Yeah that's all Republicans want, to fire people. Well actually they might go after these guys.
They want to purge all dissenters. They only want people in power who are loyal to the cause. Stop me if you've heard this one.
JustUs Department
Of course, it's more than just losing their jobs. What employer would hire someone with a target on their back from the President of the United States?
Their entire careers are screwed.
We aren't even close.
Virtually every last American in the middle class, what's left of it, will need to have a very sharp decline in their quality of life before we stand up in solidarity and force change. So, when their "Dancing With The Stars" gets taken away or their morning cup of coffee is so extremely expensive they can't afford it anymore. Basically, when they stop getting their fix.
We're headed in that direction for sure, but we ain't there yet.
Americans are pussies. We let creature comforts make us complacent well past the point that we should have done something.
I'm probably going to get downvoted into oblivion but it's the white middle class that won't do anything until they lose their conveniences. Asian, black, latino, Indian, and middle eastern know they aren't wanted here and their thoughts and opinions are often left ignored or hardly represented in government. They've had the bare minimum for decades and times of political and economic strife hit them first and hardest.
White America rather vote for a con-man that tells them what they want to hear than even fathom the idea of an "undesirable" sharing the same luxuries they enjoy. I got mine fuck you
Hell yeah.
Good. Cannot imagine less efficient workers than the people who sat on their ass for four years and allowed Trump to get back in charge.
Nothing of the sort happened. From Jack Smith's report:
A significant challenge that the Office faced after Mr. Trump's indictment was his ability and willingness to use his influence and following on social media to target witnesses, courts, and Department employees, which required the Office to engage in time-consuming litigation to protect witnesses from threats and harassment.
Volume I of that report is 174 pages of investigative findings, and we haven't seen volume II yet.
The idea that they were just lazy is completely ignorant of how long even normal federal cases take, let alone going against a former President with a penchant for stirring up a mob in his favor.
Those people did their jobs. The rest of the system failed them.
The system is designed to fail them.
Lets hope he manages to write page 500 before he gets fired. Quantity is irrelevant when it is used to delay justice instead of enforce it.
Jack Smith ran away and hid rather than fight. These employees kept quietly writing reports instead of moving forward with critical action. Hell, I'd even take a whistleblower. Are we seeing any of that? Ofc not. They're all cowards carefully hired by further cowards precisely to protect their status quo.
Source: i am a former federal employee whose rights were repeatedly violated and who was shitcanned when I made myself heard. Nobody is interested in pursuing my rights violations because nobody has jurisdiction over anyone else. Burn the whole system to the ground.
Pretty sure that was all Garland.
Up is down, black is white. I hate this country. Rather, I hate a lot of my fellow citizens.
I'm on the country-hate train. Shit's garbage.
The US is looking pretty fucked right now. RIP
Did it to ourselves
I did not. I did my damnedest in order to try and inform everybody who was around me. I try to help bring up all of the aspects and all of the problems. Our biggest failure is all those who didn't even vote. Not those who did but those who couldn't even be assed to get off of theirs and go out and fill out the form. But let me Tell you what this administration did Nazi coming.... My unadulterated ass now being even more bold and happy just telling them to fuck off. Might as well start feeding them the same bullshit they've been doing to us for the last eight years. I am now refusing to do absolutely anything involved with anything that they want done I am going to drag my dick on everything and anything I might construe as being helpful to their cause. I'm going to bitch and moan as loudly as possible . I'm going to be the most cantankerous pain in the ass that anybody has ever come across.
That orange fuck can get stuffed should have stayed in oompa loompa land maybe And I'm just saying maybe lighten up on the amount of tanning cream that he's using or at least tell his apprentices they need to slow up cuz we all know Mr tiny hands is incapable of squeezing the fucking bottle himself. Don't want to accidentally use too much energy might be construed as exercise and that might actually physically kill him God damn medical oddity. How can somebody eat that poorly and do literally nothing and still be walking around.
We haven't had any agency in this for a long time. The two parties run the show on behalf of our billionaire owners.
I'm almost hopeful, in a perverse, accelerationist sort of way... Trump might break this country badly enough to force a "renegotiation of the social contract".
Yes we did.. as was said a long time ago, the only thing that can destroy America is America