Americans, what are your plans if Trump wins in 2024?

i'll worry about it if and when it happens. i have wasted too much time, energy and resources worrying and catastrophizing about things i cannot control.

Not a bad idea to consider a plan though. If you'd want to move away, that's a major decision that is best made through research and deliberation, not in a fearful rush to escape.
So in other words, you plan to let yourself and your family be killed so you can feel better.
- The "stick head in sand" method has become extremely popular and it is a serious problem.
- Be killed??? Look, I know Trump is nutso, but why in the world would him being president again equate to someone's family being killed??

Lose my last shred of faith in this country, mostly

Looool look at this guy, he still has some faith left
- Kicking him out did restore a nonzero amount yes.

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Absolutely

How, when being targeted, jailed or killed under fascism?
- I would simply shoot anyone who attempted to do any of that to me or anyone else in my care. We should all be prepared to defend ourselves, rather than give in to oppression.
- Trump isn't going to target everyone. It's literally impossible for him to do that.

I imagine a number of famous people will talk about how they're moving to Canada, and don't.

Fortunate enough to also have EU citizenship, so I've already made arrangements to leave the country in that case. Will keep voting from overseas, though.

Inb4 voting from overseas becomes illegal as a result of some rage filled GOP bill about illegals
- Republicans are trying their damnedest to make voting illegal and/or overly burdensome even within the United States, so good luck there.
Why would you leave because of this though?
- I'm just not interested in living in the US under a second Trump presidency. Such a presidency would run against everything I stand for and against everything I want for myself, my family, and my kids.
- From the outside the whole thing seemed to be an absolute circus act. People getting increasingly polarised, constant (pretty much daily) news about something fucking stupid he's either said, done or something disgusting one of his cronies had been involved in.

Nothing I can do. Just do my best to finish out at college (assuming financial aid is still a thing) and move out of the country ASAP.

Move out of the country, *and still have to pay taxes 😂
- Could give up your citizenship
- A lot of countries have tax treaties with each other as long as they're in good standing with each other, so that people only need to pay tax in one country (in the case where one maintains citizenship in one country while working in another). Unless you're making a shit ton of money to the point you're subject to different rules, it's highly unlikely you'll be double taxed

Probably get sent to a concentration camp. Dunno if California will secede from the union to preserve human rights, if it comes between secession or letting the DHS collect all our immigrants and non-trad women.

Nah California won't leave. It is about power structure. Since leaving has no chance of success no one running things will go along with it.
- Yeah, you're right. What I can see California do, assuming it wants to stay a progressive bulwark, is act like Texas when Texas is feeling independent, and start asserting legal resistance to its contribution to federal revenues. Also, the legalization of cannabis is getting pushed through independent states unwilling to enforce federal law or cooperate with federal law enforcement. California may just do that, forcing the federal government to send its agents to do its own policing.
  This is going to be an interesting civil war.

Voting.

Local. State. Federal. Like I always have. I also moved out of a "shithole" state in the words of our treasonous former president.

With China having a severe gender imbalance and a massive generation (age) imbalance, it's going to cause all sorts of problems for them soon. Big, big fucking problems. And Russia just had all their young men flee, die stupidly, or decide Russia might not be the best place after they've released shittons of violent offenders, lol. Russia's future looks dim at best. Iran isn't looking too healthy either.

So the bottom line is this: no matter where you go, you aren't outrunning a shift to a multipolar world, especially one where resources like fresh water and food will be getting more scarce as climate change fucks the world and countries get more desperate, particularly authoritarian ones that are losing a tenuous grip on their people. That shit always causes wars, because humans are too fucking stupid to prioritize science in any other context.

Countries with democracy and immigration and the means to defend themselves and their friends are your best bet. Our fate and your own fate are intrinsically linked because of that.

I already moved. It's not just Trump that's the problem, and even if he loses in 2024, or does in office, the issues still will persist. America needs to figure out how to make the judicial system work properly and norms need to be codified. Vast swaths of the population need to change their culture of "us vs them".

I won't be going back, the way things work with Republicans, you can't just move to a blue state, you have to move out of the country.

Where'd you land, out of curiosity?

Buy a gun, I guess?

The time to buy a gun is before the fascists arrive at your door.
Don't forget to train too!
Why not go ahead and buy one today?

Being an immigrant I'll likely have my plans made for me.

If it makes you feel better I have sheltered immigrants from deportation twice and since you never see one of anything in life there probably are more people like me out there.

Send him Big Macs every single day and wait for him to have a heart attack.

Make sure I have enough meds and reach out to friends to make sure they're safe and are able to get their HRT.

- There are sites out there where you can order from overseas. I haven't, but have heard from other online friends that have. I've seen it mostly used by people in the UK waiting years in order to be prescribed hormones.
Get their Homeroom Teacher?
- No, but you're close. Get their HeiRloom Tomato.
- Hormone Replacement Therapy I think

Honestly I have no idea. I live in the midwest and I am rather poor, so I imagine I will just start hording canned food and glare at people through the curtains like usual

I’ll sigh, shake my head, and think, “That figures”. And then I’ll go to work, like every other day.

This but perhaps crippling depression as well.

I'm working to set up connections to folks in Canada that will be willing to relocate LGBTQ folks across the border.

- Vancouver and Seattle have basically the same weather patterns. lots of rain, annoyingly muggy summers, and mild winters.
  Source: vancouverite
- I believe that they also live in houses in Canada. You won't be exposed to snow unless you go outside
- If you're considering Canada, don't vote Conservative
- Anywhere near a large body of water is going to be quite temperate

We all understand he can in no way actually be allowed to retake that office again, correct? I don't give one flying fuck if he wins, or not. He cannot under any circumstances be allowed.

How is that going to work? January 6th two.. electric.. storming the capital...?
- It would probably need to be a military-backed coup that goes along with a serious majority backing.
  I was honestly more worried that to sesatans would hold his shit together and manage to get Trump to endorse him, transferring the QAnons and moderate Republicans into a relatively strong voting force, while Biden is digging his heels in on Israel, It would be particularly damning.
  But, Trump, I feel that we can mobilize pretty well against him. Especially with him doubling down on racist tirades and dictator day one stuff.

I’m gonna pack all my bags and change nothing about my life.

Same. Plan for the worst, but expect business as usual. Always a good idea to have preparations already made in the event that you need to gtfo on a moment's notice. With all the natural disasters that occur in my area, it's kind of a necessity, so I don't even need the excuse of "What if Trump does a Night of the Long Knives?" to have a bag ready to go.
Chances are I'll just be avoiding politics for four years so I won't have to listen to the daily gaffes, blunders, and scandals.

Just keep going about my daily life. The result of the election is not going to change where I live or where I work. The Federal Government doesn't have much of an impact on my day to day life, beyond federal laws and regulatory agencies. I don't see those changing in an (immediately) catastrophic way. Most of my day to day life is determined by my state and town government.

Right. All the folks who have a strong opinion on the presidency probably don’t know who thier rep is in the state congress.
Nor could most Trump fans (or detractors, tho a higher percentage of them could I guess) tell one executive directive from the next or even tell me where they are kept.

I'm praying for a convenient lightning bolt, or the human equivalent, to take him out. Honestly, a massive heart attack would do.

Don't make him a martyr.
- Okay, he falls down the steps and breaks his neck. And shits himself loudly the whole way.

Maybe be able to finally afford a house with all these people planning to leave the country. Other then that hunker down and deal with shit as it comes like always.

- What?

Live in denial while our country crumbles around us.

We excel at doing fuck nothing when things are falling apart around us.
- "As long as others are having a harder time, then we're doing alright"
Don't worry, it already is.
And when it's not crashing down, it's funding ethnic cleansing in foreign countries instead. Gotta keep the combo going.

Same as I've been doing since he won last time. Stay in my more liberal home state, extend understanding to friends and relatives who live in conservative states, extend invitations to the few who might need to move to keep themselves safe. Keep donating and volunteering with the organizations I've been supporting.

I have a friend who is thinking about seeking asylum in the US. I have encouraged her to weigh her other options; there are other countries where she has friends and family that might be more welcoming to her. If Trump gets elected, I'm not sure she'll even have a viable path to the US.

With that group of asshats it all depends on one important criteria for your friends acceptance:

If it happens and I'm still in this hell hole probably just die.

Continue on as a wage slave hoping to get like a couple weeks vacation eventually.

Luckily I'm already out of the country but I don't think will go well if that happens.

Every now and then I have to remind myself that America was founded by religious nutjobs and colonized by industrialists.

Organize more and harder.

Maybe do that now

Depends on what he does. Since I'm in the least likely demographic to be targeted (hmm, unless they start going through political groups I've been a member of), probably the same as I'm doing now. If it looks like there will be a civil war, I'd probably try to leave the country, but I guess that'd be too late, and I think a civil war is unlikely. I don't think many people would be willing to give their lives for... the Democratic party? I think the U.S. will become more like Russia (fake elections in red states [ensuring the Republican party the presidency and congress forever], more brutal police oppression, erosion of rights, opposition leaders falling out of windows, and encouragement of vigilante "justice" against whoever the "enemy" is at the time). I think protests and riots would be the most people would do, and they'd likely be met with increasingly deadly force.

Since covid, I make sure I keep a few months of non-perishables and water on hand in case of temporary supply chain disruptions, and I have plenty of wood to heat or cook with if needed. If there is a severe economic downturn (which is likely to happen in the unstable environment Trump would provide), and I couldn't find another well-paying job, I'd probably lose my home for not being able to pay my mortgage though.

I haven’t kept 3 months of supplies myself but I keep a list of people that do and that’s almost as good.
- Lol. Yeah, I don't consider myself a "prepper," and am not preparing for collapse, or any violence really. Just temporary supply chain disruptions so I don't have to rely on others, the government, and perhaps help my neighbors if they're desperate enough to want my rice, beans, pasta, and canned food :) I've built up a 3 month supply of food over a year or so by just buying double of everything that I need, and when I notice I'm getting low on something, I buy quite a bit more. Water is from rainwater harvesting barrels that I normally use for watering my landscape plants and gardens in the summer.

Set up monthly donations to the ACLU and Planned Parenthood, volunteer as a PP escort, open up my (Illinois) home to women and families who need to travel for reproductive healthcare.

This isn't off the top of my head, my spouse and I discussed it years ago, before the previous election.

Just die I guess

Be a constant reminder to my neighbors to avoid authoritarianism. Continue to push for self and local community reliance. Keep pushing my local governments and organizations to remain or become more inclusive.

Something new though? Maybe support an inclusive civics focused militia near me, if for no other reason so that marginalized people can feel like they have a community that will really fight for them or at least help them defend themselves if things really get that bad.

Donations to the ACLU. They seem like the best bet for the hardest fight of preserving the rights of immigrants. Among all the other things, they have to defend against as well.

Lisbon, though we have some other ideas. We went through the process of research and consideration a few years ago and were seriously going to move. We didn't and are glad for that, and glad to have gone through that process in case we decide to leave.

The same shit I did today

Underground railroad for repressed minorities to escape.

Americans: "Best I can do is steal a podium and sit at Nancy Pelosi's desk for a minute"
- this guy- "Violence, eh? whatya' trying to do? fuck my dog??"
- Yet he's better at it than you. Strange.

To leave the country

I live in a very conservative place in the south where even the queer people are here pretty conservative hopefully he doesn't win... Didn't think I needed to spell it out until I remembered the people I live around so yeah I guess it makes sense 🥲

Wish I could say that I'd move to another country, but realistically I can't afford that. I'd guess I'd live life as normal but I'd always be paranoid at the increased risk of violence against trans people.

First, read the comments while thinking most are ignorant of the consequences.

Continue living in not America. Continue, as an overseas voter, to vote for things I believe in. Do everything I can to get ranked choice to be a thing everywhere and otherwise eliminate the firat-past-the-post bullshit that exists today

Same as if Biden wins in 2024.

Or, assuming that one of them has a heart attack or something before then, Nikki Haley or Kamala Harris or whoever.

I am leaving and trying to convince as many of my sane family members to do the same. I dont want to be here for the inevitable violence.

Wherever you end up, don't vote for conservatives or you'll repeat the same thing there
- Why would you think that someone that is disgusted with what conservatives are doing here enough to completely uproot their lives to get away from it would vote for that shit somewhere else?

My boyfriend is Swiss, and there's been a loose open conversation over where we'd want to end up settling long-term. A second Trump term would definitely add several points in the Switzerland column.

Win or lose we're buying guns.

General strike, then the woodchippers if still need

Be glad I'm not at the top of their list, and try to help my friends that are. Can't do much to sway the scared of nothing millions that will vote for him. So I'm looking for overseas jobs that pay relo, and I if I don't make it out, hunker down and hope there is a country left to salvage at the end.

I plan to leave the country anyway. Shit’s getting too weird in the US.

Depends. He seems pretty out of it right now and I don't know how much he would really accomplish. He's also pretty old and unhealthy.

But if he comes back angry and the people around him are effective, then yeah we would start looking for other places to live. I'm not trying to live in a Russian-style handmaid's tale.

I don't think it's dramatic to suggest Trump may actually put an end to our democracy though. Another Lemmy commenter summed it up best. They pointed out that we on the left may have disagreed with McCain or Bush, but we never once feared that they would seize power or leave NATO. We trusted them to at least keep the ship afloat and respect the basic tenants of our free and democratic nation.

With Trump, we don't have that. All bets are off because he's an unhinged narcissist. He would leave NATO and risk the Pax Americana that has stabilized the world for almost 100 years now. And he would do it for money, for negative attention, or just because someone told him he couldn't. America has some pretty major faults but China and Russia are not ready to take the reigns. Say what you will about the West but we at least endeavor to protect human rights. I think anyone who isn't trying to build on the current Western peace is incredibly dangerous in a very scary way.

They pointed out that we on the left may have disagreed with McCain or Bush, but we never once feared that they would seize power or leave NATO.
They were saying all of the same things about W. Bush in 2004.
We trusted them to at least keep the ship afloat and respect the basic tenants of our free and democratic nation.
Not at all. The left viewed W. Bush as a wannabe dictator, not much different from how Trump is viewed now.
- I viewed Bush as an incompetent moron with business cronies crawling in to every spot in his administration. I don't recall people saying he was a wannabe dictator, he had at least some respect for the Constitution and the electoral process. Trump on the other hand, put extreme pressure on the DoJ to direct investigations away from him, minimize their impact or bury them as best as possible. His administration freaking extradited a convicted Russian agent back to her home country because she was funneling money and propaganda to the GOP through the NRA. Trump is a wannabe dictator, he didn't get to be one because he didn't have to spine to follow through with his coup because he knew he needed the thinnest amount of plausible deniability to give his GOP sycophants cover to justify letting him off the hook if it failed.
- I did not view Bush at all like Trump. Really disliked his political takes on most things and thought he was embarrassingly dumb some times but it never ever even crossed my mind that he was a threat to the republic. And actually admired his composure and leadership after 9/11. They're not even remotely comparable.
Everyone should read their Project 2025 plan, they plan on consolidating power by firing or arresting any non Right winger in power or employed by the government, among many other fascistic power consolidation wet dreams:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025#:~:text=The%20plan%20proposes%20slashing%20U.S.,departments%20of%20education%20and%20commerce.
https://www.project2025.org/
https://www.heritage.org/conservatism/commentary/project-2025
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/conservatives-aim-to-restructure-u-s-government-and-replace-it-with-trumps-vision
https://bpr.berkeley.edu/2023/11/17/project-2025-democratic-doomsday/
https://www.advocate.com/news/project-2025-republicans-maga
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/project-2025-heritage-foundation-christian-nationalism-rcna103510
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/27/project-2025-dismantle-us-climate-policy-next-republican-president
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/16h9fqe/what_is_the_deal_with_project_2025/
- I humbly request you post this in https://lemmy.cafe/c/benjamingetthemusket
  Make the thread and I'll pin it
how about the opposite view: trump supporters feel Trump will be good. He will allow the USA to become much more independent and cut off paying for other nations' wars. why should we pay for them? there is no need for america to be the guardian of democracy or anything. We just want to live god-fearing lives and raise good families. We don't need the rest of the world. Our military can stomp out any invaders.
- He will allow the USA to become much more independent and cut off paying for other nations' wars. He will allow the USA to become much more independent and cut off paying for other nations' wars.
  Kowtowing to countries like China and Russia, allowing them to win strategic victories, will make them more powerful and give them more influence on US politics. Ie. the US would become less independent.
  You don't become more independent by telling countries like China that you give up.
  In the case of Ukraine, they're one of the world's top exporters of grain, which is in part why food prices have been rising globally.
  We don't need the rest of the world.
  You do. The world has globalised. At least 40 million American jobs are directly reliant on exports. The rest of the world also produces stuff like oil. Fuel prices would skyrocket.
  A lot of unprofitable stuff has also been moved overseas. It would cost money to make it in the US. Many resources are also rare in the US. Stuff like rare-earth elements. Good luck importing from countries which have signed deals with China, because they're the new super power. Combined with de-dollarisation this would also cause massive issues, rampant inflation for example. You think it's bad now? You ain't seen nothing yet.
  Our military can stomp out any invaders.
  No one needs to invade the US. It's cheaper to simply buy a candidate or blackmail him. This allows countries like China to push through legislation which favours their business and strategic interests. Eg. dropping support for Ukraine or dropping support of Taiwan so that China can take control of advance chip industries.
  In the long term, the US would find it hard to sustain a huge military budget when facing economic turmoil and a debt crisis. Especially in relative terms. China has a population of 1.4 billion. If the US withdraws from the Asia-Pacific and Europe, they're likely to become part of the Chinese sphere of influence. A country of 300 million, will inevitably be pushed around by a power bloc of 3 billion.
  Of course, none of this will convince a Trump supporter, because most base their support on emotions not reason. And once they find they can't afford to fill up on gas, or groceries, they'll blame anyone but themselves.
- Well how about doing anything remotely Godly? I mean seriously, the stuff ol Jesus H Christ tried teaching y'all seems to have been completely missed. You lot would call him "Woke".
  I'm glad you stick to the "I'm a Christian" lark, as if there is a hell, you'll be more than likely heading there.
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He would leave NATO and risk the Pax Americana that has stabilized the world for almost 100 years now.
Stabilizing the world is just flat out wrong. At best, the US has stabilized itself and a select few allies. Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan most recently, along with a whole bunch of countries in Central and South America over the last 100 years would probably feel quite strongly that the US has been a disruptive force for them.
- As a devout lefty who thinks America and capitalism need a lot more checks and balances, I have to somewhat disagree with you.
  When we talk peace, we are talking relative terms. And I suppose I should also add prosperity into the mix.
  I think the West has enabled a period of relative peace and prosperity never before seen. And I think it's getting, overall, better every day. Technology and capitalism, for all their evils, have lifted billions out of poverty and saved billions of lives.

Well, I've got some rope, a candlestick, a revolver, a lead pipe and a nice knife; I wanted to keep my options open.

The same thing I do after every election, cringe for another four years.

Avoid news outlets

If we make plans, and post them on the internet, people start throwing around words like "premeditated" and it just makes things harder.

I love this. "We have a plan but we can't tell you.". Peak uselessness.

I already know where I’ll try to emigrate. I chose a new preferred country after seeing how shitty large swaths of my fellow Americans behaved in 2020. Absolute shitheads.

Nothing in particular. I am already planning for a Christian Nationalism state. Might as well ask me if I am already leaving a building because of a smoking detector going off if I would do something different if a second smoke detector went off.

I will legit try to find countries with constitutions and parliaments that I could relocate to to live and work. The American constitutional Republic will be over if Trump becomes President again.

He'll certainly start his retribution with the big fish of anti Trump people and organizations, but it won't take long for it to "trickle down" to everyday people as well.

I'm lucky enough that it's feasible for me to find work in my field outside the US. Others aren't so lucky.

some of us are not allowed to vote so doing the same thing as the last election

hope people one day quit voting for one of the demopublicans and choose some third party

as an american dissident unable to vote it feels like trapped in a country that does not want us deciding things or having a voice of any kind just here to be a disposable warm body

yes it is like that rick and morty episode with the body theme park you know things are dying and rotting and falling apart around you but that is the extent of your powers unless someone on the outside intervenes

Why are you not allowed to vote?
- Felony record probably

I would be surprised if he wins. It really feels like his time has passed. But if he does I will use resistbot to its fullest capacity.

I don’t think there will be a presidency after him if he does though. I think people generally underestimate the violence it will bring.

Not to mention, they are very used to making poor decisions (see: invasions of Afghanistan & Iraq) and also not fighting back when their elections are stolen or interfered with. (See: Brooks Brother Riot and Trump election)

Good luck dummies!

I wouldn't be surprised. He doesn't exactly have the strongest opponent. I like to look at prediction markets to get an idea of what the odds are, and it looks like the gamblers currently think there's only a 52% chance of a Democrat winning the presidency. But, it's really hard to tell what will happen right now. Trump, Biden, or both could die before the election. We may begin a recession. OPEC is cutting oil production, with some people hypothesizing it is to influence the U.S. election. Russia and other countries will likely ramp up disinformation like we've never seen before, powered by the new AI bots and deepfake technology.

He won't win. By honest means anyway. If we rollover and let him cheat his way into power we deserve what we get.

How are you going to stop them from cheating?

As a Canadian I'm not sure what I would do for the next election if it is Trump vs Biden. I can't support someone who keeps supporting Israel after their actions in the last couple of months. But Trump literally said he will jail journalist and protesters and wants to invade mexico. I also feel like Trump would support Israel too .

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Well since I've been very vocally liberal and anti-Trump over the past 8 years or so, I suspect I'll end up dying in a labor camp.
I don't have the means to get out of the county beforehand or I'd already be out, and I think there's effectively no country that's going to be willing to take political refugees from the United States afterwords, so I'm pretty well fucked.

If you honestly think the US under Trump is going to put liberals in labor camps despite watching his whole first term flounder on anything that wasn't already galvinized by the GOPs platform I think you need to watch less sensationalized news.
- I think you're discrediting that there's a decent chance that Trump is at least going to try to turn the US into a dictatorship. I'm hoping any attempt will fail, but there's been weirder successes throughout history

Its a time honored american tradition to shoot someone wearing red clothing thats trying to tell everyone what to do

Not Santa!

I already left the US with no plans on living there again if I can make it work. So nothing would change with my life plans.

No joke- moving to Canada. Arrwngements are already made. We live 2-3 hours away as it is, so it wouldn’t be a huge change for us.

Same here. No healthcare, gun control, college, homes. For being the supposed “Best country on Earth “ it sure does suck ass.

Celebrate

Hold my nose for 4 years and power through, same as last time. I'm in a blue state, we're fine.

Build a wall around Detroit and put up a sign "No Trumps allowed"

These responses should be entertaining. /teasip

What the fuck can I do? Just be even more depressed about the state of the country

Not everyone has the luxury of uprooting their lives when a fascist comes.
- Yeah so many in the thread are like “duh I just moved, easy”
  Yeah ok easy for you

Nothing, same as the first time. He couldn't do what he wants anyway, the stuff he can do can get reversed just as easily. All the other stuff is just noise.

Continually live life just like the last time he was in office. It's the same as when anybody else has taken office. Opposition says it's going to be the worst ever but in the grand scheme nothing changes.

Not an american, but I guess GTFO would be my answer if I were.

Im not american but i would jump off a cliff if that happens

Since I don't care who wins, I'll do what I've done every day after an election: get up, go to work, come home, play with the kids, eat some dinner, maybe shag the wife.

By not caring who wins you already seem to understand this sick game of three card monte they keep playing on Americans every 2 to 4 years. Good on you for not playing along.
- I still vote, but all but once in the last 20 years I've written in a name. When a worthy candidate from one of the two political parties is worthy of my vote, they'll get it. Voting on state and local elections is far more important than the federal level anyway.
I wish I had this kind of priviledge
- Yeah, I wish I had a wife, too.
- Privilege is a subjective concept and thus has little meaning. You can not care if you choose to. Or get worked up every 4 years when your team doesn't win.

I'm not amercain and don't live in america but If i were to guess what would happen most of the people here would winge about it on social media for a few days after post election then contuine to live there lives till the next election where they'll vote for the stinky smelly and otherwise smelling of bo red turd or yellow piss stained blue turd rince and repeat no one political party is better than the other there both as equally as bad as the other

I don't think it matters all that much if trump/republicans win or if Biden/democrats win.

I feel like I've seen enough elections in my life to know that the POTUS is largely just a human sock puppet for the peasants to fight over online and in the street.

No matter which corporate owned tool wins the gameplan stays the same.

Impoverish you. Obey the donors. Sanctions + bombs. Tax cuts. Turn their pockets inside out when it comes to anything poor/working class people need. I could go on but I think you get the point.

The slow suicidal summersault into ww3 shall continue. Buckle up.

Drink. At least it isnt Biden, but at what cost?

Outside of breaking border promises, pulling out of Afghanistan, and dealing with Israel, I don't see the long-term damage Biden has caused. Any Republican, not just Trump, is going to cause way more damage and have almost 0 benefits. If monkeypox happened under Trump, we would be in a way worse position.