AOC voted against MTG’s amendment to strip Israel funding from the Defense Appropriations Act of 2026

Magic The Gathering?

I can't believe I'm agreeing with something MTG put forth.

The thing about setting fires to burn things down is that you often cant control what happens after the fire is lit.
even a stupid clock is broken twice a day,

600+ days into livestreamed extermination and mass starvation in Gaza and these wretched people say they care.

The bill removed “offensive” weapons, but left in “defensive” weapons. The distinction is meaningless; defensive weapon systems allow Israel to continue to prosecute it’s genocide without other countries (notably Iran) being able to act against them, so it still enables genocide.
Agreed.
If she votes against the bill: AOC opposes cutting military aid to Israel!
If she votes for the bill: AOC voted to keep sending weapons to Israel!
No. There were two distinct votes at play here.
The first vote, for which she voted nay, was to amend the bill, removing the sending of weapons to Israel.
The last vote, for which she voted nay, was to pass the bill itself.
At issue here is the first vote only.
This yearly military budget bill always gets passed, without exception, which AOC knows. She knew that, in the end, the bill would get passed despite her nay vote. That being the case, why did she vote against removing military aid to Israel?
- we're at a point where sadly even when you carefully explain it, with step by step instructions on why her vote was problematic, like you did right here, they either still act lost or still find ways to defend her vote.
this is a ridiculous lie or terrible reading comprehension
She is not your friend nor a revolutionary. Socdems are always like this.
AOC says she supports sending weapons to Israel. You don't have pretend otherwise.
https://lemmy.ml/post/33383345
- Did you fail English in school?

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point

Ugh.
Listen to Marjorie Taylor Greene talk, and she's easily the worst of the worst. But sometimes she does something like this or speaks out against Trump, and in that respect she may actually be one of the better Republicans, which is an extremely, extremely low bar to clear.

The unions told her to do it

Power dynamics
- The micro and the macro

AOC is career politician (insert add for term limits here) and as such she is tries to walk the middle line, carefully selecting her words and never goes far enough on her stance on certain issues that might get her in trouble, like her meandering support about Gaza and Israel. She is not the progressive darling we need, just the best the DNC has, and at times, that isn't saying much. We need a viable working class, progressive party that isn't afraid to fight.

She is an outspoken surrogate for President Biden, a figure many fellow socialists have condemned as a warmonger. She has also carefully calibrated her messaging around the war in Gaza, declining to take some positions that have inflamed Jewish Americans.

Ocasio-Cortez Loses the Democratic Socialists’ Endorsement Over Israel

I remember she had a "vacation" to Mauritania in her last semester of her PS bachelor. WHY would anyone visit the only plaCe were slavery Is offically legAl is beyond me.

I wonder if there were bad hidden things in the bill again? (I know most of the US congress is bought by AIPAC)

Like in the US, a bill often gets to congress that is named something like "the children are the future protections act" that provides free meals and better education for kids or something universally good, and then clause 7.1.2.5 says "all people of color are stripped of all rights and Lockheed Martin gets an extra 200 billion per year and a on-demand hit squad provided by the CIA and is immune to prosecution, and the police have the right to spy on every citizen and steal their wallets without a warrant."

Because the majority of members of US congress have admitted to not actually reading the bills.

There was nothing bad in the amendement itself.
This was not a vote on the whole bill. It was a vote to change a part of the bill and strip out funding for some free weapons to Israel. It was voted on seperately.
- So basically it was free real estate
  Is this the confirmation that AOC is compromised?
Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, Summer Lee and Al Green supported MTG's amendment.
I trust Talib's judgement over AOC's.
I don't think so. It was a modification to this Biden bill to remove the Israel money.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8034
- The title of this topic says it's amending the Defense Appropriations Act of 2026.
It could also just be that it's MTG's bill and she's introducing it because she's explicitly antisemitic. It's like if a well-known white supremacist introduced articles of impeachment for Clarence Thomas because they can't stand having a black man on the court. Maybe if this is the one shot that can get it done you bite the bullet and do it because the result is worthwhile even if you're going to get asked why you teamed up with the white supremacist, but for a doomed bill that's only going to be a statement of principles, the benefit is limited and the person who introduced it is part of the statement.
- So she's a Republican?

i had no faith in her and somehow still she lets me down every time

or to quote grok. every damn time.

Update: AOC clarifies she supports genocide and it is not about MTG

https://lemmy.ml/post/33383345?scrollToComments=true

What she actually said, for anyone who cares:
Marjorie Taylor Greene's amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza. Of course I voted against it. What it does do is cut off defensive Iron Dome capacities while allowing the actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue.
I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war is constructive to its end. That is a simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established.
I remain focused on cutting the flow of US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza.
For the record, I think this is a shitty explanation. The Iron Dome permits Israel to commit it's genocide with impunity and act as a belligerent in the region. I get the attempt to differentiate between defensive support and offensive support, but cutting of arms for the Iron Dome would be the fastest way to curb Israeli aggression. But this statement in no way, "clarifies that she supports genocide."
Well that is certainly one interpretation of her words. Maybe not the one closest to the truth but definitely one way of thinking lol.
- I mean I disagree I think it's absolutely closest to the truth. She's just trying to fudge what she means but that's exactly what the truth is.
- No it's the only interpretation.

The post title is BS, but the content is worthwhile, lol. Singling out just one person? Come on now, don't be a doofus.

Wouldn't it be boring if every news article had the same headline?
"Everybody Sucks Here. Again."
What is BS in the title?
- The cherry picked nature of only mentioning AOC. 428 other representatives did the same thing, which is the real story.

This looks like a bad-faith AOC attack piece. I'm sure she's not perfect. I'm also sure that she's a better, more ethical politician than most in the USA (which isn't saying much, you guys have awful politicians).

One might wonder why you choose to post this, instead of focusing on the way, way, way worse things also going on over there.

Quite telling.

One might wonder why you choose to post this, instead of focusing on the way, way, way worse things also going on over there.
Because it's the truth. Because having a full picture of the situation is important for informed decision making. Because ignoring any news that makes 'your side' look bad is what magas do.
- Uh-huh. https://i.redd.it/i2u9r76ylvdf1.jpeg
AOC clarified she supports sending weapons to Israel and this was not a mistake. https://lemmy.ml/post/33383345
- Uh-huh. https://i.redd.it/i2u9r76ylvdf1.jpeg
  I don't have all the info she does. I do abhor the war on Gaza and am against violence, especially the genocidal kind we see here. I also don't think there's an easy solution to the problem, nor that MTG's proposal would have done anything good.
  Let's just say we're mostly on the same side of this matter, nitpicking over details.

~~I’m pretty sure a large contingent of her constituency is New York Jews, many of whom are probably Orthodox… It’s not a stretch to believe that many of those voters are also Zionists~~

Zohran Mamdani has destroyed that argument already.
- Not only that, but her specific district is overwhelmingly Latino. The way the district lines are formed almost looks like it deliberately avoids the Jewish enclaves. She isn't doing this to please her constituents; she has grander political ambitions and sees this as a prerequisite to gaining favor with the party brass.
- I completely agree with him on that.
  but, does a mayor has any power to do any of that?
- What impact does Zohran Mamdani realistically have over weapons sent to Israel?
Nah the election kinda proved that NYC jews arent really that zionist. So this is merely socdems doing social fascism and supporting the empire, as usual.
It makes no sense. It's not like there's a gazzilion jews in America and that's why the majority of US politicians support Israel unconditionally. Jews in New York or elsewhere can cast only so many votes.

My money says she opposed the amendment because it would be unpopular in her constituency if she didn't.

So you are saying she is an establishment Democrat and not a progressive.
- She's supposed to represent her constituents

Whatever, fuck mtg, can’t legitimize her bullshit

"Anti-Semites are opposed to Israel, so being opposed to Israel is legitimizing anti-Semites."
This is how you sound right now.
- No, that is, in fact, not at all what I sound like
Do you think Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, Al Green and Summer Lee were incorrect in their vote?
Always an excuse to vote for Israel. 4 real progressives voted yes on the amendement.
- Thankfully, I’m not a participant in electoral politics and will never have to make this calculation
"a broken clock..." applies here
EDIT: That was rude, sorry.
This is a bad take. Openly siding with a genocide is worse than taking sides against the genocide, even when mtg is the one who suggested taking their missiles away.
- This debate trap i didn’t want to have and that everyone’s trying to push towards. Nobody is siding with genocide.
  And let’s be honest, mtg is a genicider herself