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MAGA melts down after Trump-appointed justice argues against ending birthright citizenship: 'Remove this imposter'

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MAGA Melts Down After Trump-Appointed Justice Argues Against Ending Birthright Citizenship: 'Remove This Imposter'

Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett triggered fierce backlash from MAGA loyalists after forcefully questioning the Trump administration's top lawyer and voicing skepticism over ending birthright citizenship during a heated Supreme Court argument.

Since taking office, Donald Trump has pushed for an executive order to end birthright citizenship, a constitutional guarantee under the 14th Amendment that grants automatic U.S. citizenship to anyone born on American soil.

During oral arguments, Barrett confronted Solicitor General Dean John Sauer, who was representing the Trump administration, over his dismissive response to Justice Elena Kagan's concerns. Barrett sharply asked whether Sauer truly believed there was "no way" for plaintiffs to quickly challenge the executive order, suggesting that class-action certification might expedite the process.

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Imposter? A Justice should have no loyalty but to the law. This isn’t about her opinion. It’s about reading the 14th Amendment.
Want to change it? Go for it. You’ll need half the House, 2/3 of the Senate, and 3/4 of states to amend the Constitution.
- This is the case that seems the most clear out of any in the past few years.
  The text of the amendment isn't murky at all.
  "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
  There's no way to interpret that being born in the US doesn't convey citizenship.
  
  And that's why the GOP are reframing those deemed undesirable as illegals, invaders, and terrorists. These people by some definitions do not behave as bound to the law of the country they are in.
  Any reason to justify what they are doing.
  
  I believe from listening to recent NPR that their lawyers aren't even arguing about that. They are arguing about whether national injunctions can really be national injunctions or not.
  
  The argument I heard initially was that irregular migrants are not, somehow, subject to the jurisdiction of the US.
- A Justice should have no loyalty but to the law.
  First time reading about the GOP?
  
  My point is that the 14th Amendment is very clear. There’s no room for interpretation as there is with something like a fetus compared to a baby in Roe v. Wade. What they want is to amend the Constitution. That’s a different process entirely.
- Crazy thing is that 2 justices will almost always happily vote to throw the constitution in the trash if it helps with party politics.
- Why bother, just sign an EO. /s
  
  Trump, "Why the /s? I'll do it."
- They wouldn't stand a chance of doing this with the states, it would cause a civil war.
  They couldnt even get it past a Republican controlled vote.
  They have Republicans in office that were not even born in the USA. People forget asshats like Ted Cruz.
  
  Careful now, Rafael Edward Cruz does not want you using preferred names.
- THEY CAN TAKE AWAY DRINKING BEING ILLEGAL FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS... My bad. I was just confused, because that was a right once, too.
- She is an imposter, she’s wildly unqualified for the job, she is the least qualified judge to ever sit on the bench by a wide margin, she’s a DEI hire. Shes an imposter who absolutely in no way deserves her job but she’s not an imposter for “being skeptical” of ending birthright citizenship, I do predict she will fold like a house of cards over this and do nothing to protect birthright citizenship.
- It is if no one stops him. The Constitution doesn't do anything unless people actively uphold it. So far Trump's gotten away with so many things because no one's actually stopping him.
  I keep waiting for the American public to take a stand, but apparently they're willing to sit there on the couch while their democracy is stripped away.
  
  Again, we're open to suggestions on what to do.
- The thought of a clearly defined and settled case getting heard by SCOTUS is bad enough on its own. This doesn't even coincide with any kind of real world event besides an asshole President saying, "I don't like this rule."
More proof the right wing does not, nor have they ever, given one flying fuck about the Constitution that they go on so much about.
- It's like they'd already been conditioned to be outraged about some other selectively-ignored sacred text…
  
  How have I never made this connection? That's gonna be my facepalm of the year I think...it's so very obviously the exact same behavior.
- They have only read one of the amendments all the way through and part of another one and the rest is too boring to read.
  
  Curious which ones? I don't think they read all of the Second. The ding-a-lings certainly never read the First and actually understand it, because they keep acting like this is a "Christian" country, when the First says I don't have to give two shits about the chosen lifestyle of the xtian book club. Meaning I most definitely have freedom FROM religion.
Cult-like behavior. Literally. "You're with us all the way and must always back anything Dear Leader does or says. If you disagree with anything, you must be kicked out, expelled, recalled, fired, or voted out!" It's absolutely psychotic to view the world in such zero-sum, black/white terms.
- I seem to recall the right wailing about cancel culture not too long ago...
  
  No see - it’s all about who’s doing the thing. Words are all made up anyway, there are just good guys and bad guys.
  Remember how “precedent” stopped them from allowing Obama to appoint a new Supreme Court judge as a lame duck, but the same logic didn’t apply to Trump?
- This is the result of normalizing the practice of religiously indoctrinating children and leaded gasoline.
- Cult-like behavior.
  They want a policy and they're loudly advocating that any politicians standing in their way get removed.
  The thing they're asking for is awful. But God Damn, this is the kind of FDR/LBJ style titty twisting that any major legislation needs in order to happen in this country.
I wonder how many of these "MAGA influencers" are just plants or bot accounts.
- Too many.
  
  But not enough.
  77 million people still voted this orange shit-stain into office again. They saw what he'd done before. They saw an attempted coup. They heard all the Nazi-era rhetoric. And they thought "that's the man for us".
Don't they KNOW the Founders EXPLICITLY Only Protected the RIGHT to SHOOT UP A SCHOOL?
- Thoughts and prayers!
Is it wrong that I'm thankful for Amy Coney Barrett? She might be the key to stopping this madness.
- If we can't have a progressive, Coney-Barrett would be a better chief justice. She seems to at least try to follow the Constitution (most of the time). Eff her for lying about RvW in her confirmation hearing, though. Eff all those guys.
- they fast tracked her to the highest court in the country thinking she was properly trained to be their good little soldier
  
  I don't think fast tracked really covers it. That implies her career was slightly shorter than other justices. In fact, her career basically didn't exist until she became a justice.
- She’s certainly performed better than expected. She actually seems to give a damn about the application of law in most cases.
So she sucks in a great many ways, but I’ve actually been surprised that Coney Barrett hasn’t been the rubber stamp i expected her to be
- If it makes you feel better she basically is the rubber stamp you expected, all she did here was “show skepticism”
  
  Of the conservative justices, she has voted the least conservative the past two years. Her skepticism may actually indicate where she'll vote.
- She mostly cares about forcing births because of her handmaiden upbringing, so with other issues she might possibly be less in lockstep with the fascists
Every time I see verbs such as "rips" "slams" "melts down" I stop reading because I know it's going to be hyperbole
- Or "eviscerates"
- I know.
  Could you imagine if any of the articles about the right wing attacking itself were in any way realistic?
- With how much these terms have been used lately, they seem to have lost all the meaning behind them.
- lol you just waiting for the day a Supreme Court justice literally body slams someone?? Like of course it’s hyperbole, but it’s still interesting one of the DEI judges is showing skepticism, the article isn’t hyperbolic or audacious, just informative.
Somedays I really have to question whether such people really exist. I mean really? What do they think America is?
Edit: I mean, I get it from the people in power, they want to cozy up to that power and so they will parrot its rhetoric. So companies, lobbyists, etc., sure.
But like, regular people? With day jobs? Who function in regular society going to stores and cooking food and cleaning homes and all that? What is their actual vision of America here?
At first, I thought “remove this imposter” was a quote from ACB and I was like “Damn, she really woke up to this whole thing, huh?”
Does maga realize that the more they attack someone, the more they drive that person away?
- Its a cult, they don't care. It just leads existing cult members to isolate harder from outsiders and stay loyal.
- The more they attack someone verbally the more threats that person will receive from their cult.
  It’s not about their rage changing anyone’s mind. It’s the threats of violence that follow. Those can make people fall in line or go into hiding and either of those is a win for the oppressors.
- So far it seems to be working because most politicians are apparently spineless cowards.
  
  SOCTUS justices aren’t politicians though. You can’t primary a justice.
If they don't like that law, there is one path for them to change it: Constitutional Amendment. Good luck with that, fuckers.
It was never about the Constitution with MAGA.
- The "patriots" want nothing but the destruction of everything they claim to love and worship with regards to America, the Constitution, etc, etc.
  All so they can put a emotionally unstable manbaby pants shitting pedophile and rapist on a golden throne as god-fuhrer.
When the imposter is sus!
(I couldn't resist)
- I miss that game. Can't enjoy it anymore because the kids ruined it with their constant "wHeRe?" comments and general stupidity.
Okay, she doesn't have to be sent to El Salvador when Empress Cortez assumes control
- It'll be a cold day in hell before they let us vote for AOC

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