PolarKraken @ PolarKraken @sh.itjust.works

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Would you be willing to talk about what you're intending to do with this at all? No hard feelings if you'd rather not for any reason.

For context on my request - I've been following this comm for a bit and there seems like a real committed, knowledgeable base of folks here - the dialog just in this post almost brings a tear to my eye, lol.

I work fairly adjacent to this stuff, and have a slowly growing home lab. Time is limited of course and gotta prioritize what to learn and play with - LLMs are obviously both and useful, but I haven't yet encountered a compelling use case for myself (or maybe just enough curiosity about one) to actually dive in.

Selfishly I just wish every post here would give some info about what they're up to so I can start to fill in whatever is apparently missing in my sort of "drum up fun ideas" brain subroutine, regarding this topic. Lol.

"Middle-school sass with a poetic twist" is certainly what I aim for when crafting my roasts and witty jabs

Wouldn't surprise me a bit, that show was crazy influential, at least initially. Punchlines came way faster than we were used to, sometimes deliberately abruptly (iconic example of that for me is Peter's instantaneous face-plants, which I still find funny TBH). And people liked the endless gags that were just random non sequiturs of dumb stuff happening that had nothing to do with anything. Fun at first, not enough to scaffold a whole show around IMO, but most folks couldn't get enough.

That kinda stuff really cheapened humor ("mainstream humor"? is that even a thing?) over the long run, according to me. I started to say I'm just crotchety and old, but actually I wasn't then and I thought it was lame pretty quickly after the initial "fun new show everyone's into" vibe wore off.

Then again if it wasn't them it would've just been another, audiences were just kinda "ready" for that sort of humor I suppose, obviously wouldn't have been the runaway success it was otherwise. I'd be shocked if The Simpsons weren't influenced, seems almost impossible with the cultural swell around Family Guy at the time.

Sad thing is from what I understand, Spanish language news commonly available in the US (Unavision I believe?) basically fed Latinos a straight up false version of the guy, the description I read sounded even less accurate than Fox.

The overwhelming effectiveness of widespread media manipulation is the real story (and human tragedy...) here.

Dope, detailed writeup, thank you!

Oh, also - largely with you on Robux. I mean I don't have a problem with it in principle, ideally it lets kids (through their parents) effectively choose which games and creators to support, and there have lately been some big games with big frequent updates that kids have found to be super enjoyable. Like, content updates at rates traditional games would be embarrassed by.

But like all things involving $, I'm sure there's lots of eventual exploitation. And manipulation of kids to want to buy is definitely bad. But then again, by my measure, kids need to be instructed on recognizing and resisting precisely that from a young age. That manipulation is everywhere and getting worse all the time.

You're probably right, I've once or twice (from an older account) asked a user to elaborate or give specifics, after they'd made some wild claims about safety, never gotten anything.

I do know of at least one truly hideous group of people using the platform as communication and recruitment to some really horrendous (life ruining) stuff, maybe this article references that too. But again, that's a problem of sufficiently large user bases (especially of kids). Among millions of users it's mathematically not realistic to prevent every possible group in the size of dozens from congregating to attempt their awful shit. Motivated humans are good at overcoming even well-designed systems.

We're certainly right to care about safety though, and I do want to know if Roblox is less safe than I imagine.

Roblox chat is so restrictive that it routinely makes it difficult to talk about normal things. My daughter has spent a ton of time on Roblox (while being prohibited from many other things including unfettered YouTube, for context) and I really don't see what the fuss is about. I've played with her on and off for years, it has always struck me as a generally safe platform, and I'm both sensitive and clued in about the topic.

Anything with user numbers like Roblox is going to attract the darkest corners of the internet, that's unavoidable. It doesn't strike me that there's anything particularly dangerous about Roblox beyond that fact, they seem to manage it well and actually the platform seems pretty safe all things considered.

Seriously dangerous! I like your analogy, it's even a little worse though, it's like doing that but also the planes have an engineered preference to steer towards the worst places.

Right, this is simple stuff - for a 4 year old, content of any kind must be curated, and I'd argue that stays true in different ways for quite a while.

Yeesh. Before ever turning over entire decision-making power on a very uncontrolled platform to a kid, ya gotta help walk them through stuff and spend time curating / selecting content together. And also wait for them to grow up some and demonstrate readiness.

And certainly never trust YouTube's curation, ever, agreed.

4 yo rawdogging modern AI slop YouTube shorts, solo, is wild.

I have a 12 year old. I considered YouTube unsafe for her unsupervised, when she was growing up (and largely still do, we have a healthy teamwork approach to it). The place is just magnitudes worse now. And yep, parents are super ignorant (and have been), they have no idea what the kids are even watching, many don't really restrict the time they spend at all.

YEAH MF, congrats, now your brain is malwared to fuck, you shouldn't have looked at it dead on. Limewire is best treated like a Medusa... whose effects show up later.

Guaranteed 10 years earlier dementia onset at a minimum, probably some strokes that leave you "revealing" family secrets invented out of whole cloth by the w4r3z in your now-compromised, botnet brain.

Sorry, Limewire was a wild ride. Could just be the way memories work, but looking back, I think Limewire delivered what I actually tried to download <50% of the time, maybe <30% by the time I stopped using it.

Napster was super dope (and, oddly enough, accidentally produced a solid way for me to buy drugs from the hood, lmao), and Soulseek was absolutely delicious, but - alas.

Yeesh. I've been (blessedly) away from MS for a bit now so I'm kind of catching up / watching the carnage from afar.

When you jack up veteran user workflows so much that it makes the OS feel alien...you're really just daring people to jump OS. I know it's not that simple for work environments, but I can't imagine administering this sloppy mess has gotten any easier, so...gonna be fun waiting for the suits to eventually catch up I guess.

I played a buncha Vampire Survivors around that phase lol, just need one hand for the controls. Football cradle baby, hold bottle in that same hand (does require some wrist flexibility), other hand & arm free.

That hold doesn't help with wiggles of course (and maybe you already use it) but at least you can pause VS.

Thanks, interesting and brief read!

Goddamn inflation...

I just bought two oldish business class Dell laptops this last week and put Bazzite on em both, for the fam. Easing out our Chromebooks we've used for minor things, just can't abide a machine that won't let me actually own it anymore, with the way the world's going.

Not exactly revolutionary lol, but your enthusiasm demanded something in response, so I wanted to let you know that we (and I bet lots of others!) are all in. And I really hope you keep doing stuff like this!!

If I haven't contributed something to Lutris by this year's Hacktoberfest, by golly I'm committing (heh) to putting an open issue to rest during best month.

Cheers and thanks again!!

Apologies I'm so late, didn't really have anything to add. But I've noticed your comments since this wee little exchange more and more, esp. on db0, and I like how you get down.

Sell me on PieFed if you feel like it!

And the only way election reform happens is if we get the corporate Dems who like things the way they are (AKA roughly all of them) out of power. It's damn near hopeless.

I'd commit grave sins to be able to inhabit and play in Reynolds' Revelation Space universe. The bizarre post-human factions alone, so alien and horrifying in the best way. Could legit make for a really dark MMO. I'd have to go Ultra, though, no question.

The extreme timescales, the highly personal, self-driven body modification, culminating in a truly unique, grotesque sort of personality to one's own body...one which can't help but physically, visibly project the creeping, gibbering paranoia nurtured by millennia spent slowly becoming so estranged from every other lifeform once called kin, making one's journey through time and space utterly, irreversibly alone, even when traveling with others...

For sheer thrill and a tight looter-shooter game, on the other hand, I'd be SO stoked for one using his Revenger universe. Ohhhh to crack those baubles, each a potential Pandora's box of hilariously dangerous relics involving hideous and long-forgotten exotic physics...not to mention, who knows who or what has been lurking just beyond perception, waiting for you to do the risky dirty work of extracting some particularly nasty doodad...

One can dream.