2mo ago

“They’re trying to kidnap someone” - On the scene of a brutal ICE arrest in Worcester, Massachusetts.

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2mo ago

“They’re trying to kidnap someone”: On the scene of a brutal ICE arrest in Worcester, Massachusetts

www.motherjones.com /politics/2025/05/ice-arrest-deportation-police-worcester-massachusetts/

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Next time the public should brutalize the agents
- Violence begets more violence. This isn’t the way.
  
  Empty platitudes. Pacifism doesn't work on Nazis. Mandalorianism though..
  
  So they’ll just get to kill us without consequence. Fucking awesome
  
  Just passively get into the van please.
  
  Yeah? Why not name out the times a significant change happened without violence, and we'll compare it to the number of times it took violence. Special hint: One of these is MUCH larger than the other. Hell, like 100 people were killed over a few days just to get the US down to a 40 hour work week.
  
  If you view ICE as zombies that can think, it gets a lot easier.
  
  Yes, it is. They are willing to use violence against us all, we should be willing to do the same. The only downside is that when they brutalize and jail us, they get to go home. We don’t stand a fucking chance.
  
  I most heartily agree it's simply senseless and cruel to brutalize other humans, cut their throats wide better to put them down like rabid dogs.
What's with the masks. Who are these fuckers?
- It's to prevent retaliation, I assume. Either picked up from police in Latin America fighting cartels... or Imperial Storm Troopers from Star Wars. Who could know?
- Seriously, what's with the masks?
A few more instances of this in some staunchly liberal communities and there’s gonna be at least an armed standoff between ICE and a local militia (they’re not all conservative). I’m sure that’s the outcome they’re going for; that doesn’t mean it can or should be avoided.
- ICE are cowards. Unless someone is actively watching them, they'll kidnap people when the opportunity strikes
Look there's more than enough handguns in the US of A to arm each and every person who opposes ICE agents kidnapping innocent people illegally. This is not by accident. The second amendment was crafted with this very scenario in mind. It's time.
Time to pick up the very arms the Constitution guarantees you have the right to bear to fight the very people your Constitution armed you to fight.
- Always have an escape route ready. Do your thing then get the hell out of there.
- While this sounds nice police largely have no fear of consequence because qualified immunity and even threatening to do harm against a cop carries big consequences. The truth is that lawmakers need to step up and make it clear what they're doing is illegal, that way refusing an unlawful command or protecting yourself can be easily defended in court. Shooting a cop is only going to add fuel to the fire.
  
  If you're targeted for kidnapping/rendition, your choice is to either die in an El Salvadoran prison or to die in a hail of bullets with the hope of at least taking a few Nazi thugs with you. Due process is not an option. That's what's happening now. It's not a hypothetical.
ICE refused to produce a warrant, so this wasn't an arrest, it was an abduction. The folks who were charged for trying to stop it were acting in defense of others and ought to be acquitted.
This is exactly why people don't trust the system. No warrant shown, no explanation given, a terrified child cuffed and dragged away for reacting like any human being would. Local police claim they don’t assist ICE, but when it counts, they show up to protect federal agents instead of their own community. This wasn’t law enforcement, it was a disappearance in broad daylight, and everyone there knew it.
Reading the article makes it clear that the police support ICE completely. Also that — like ICE —the police are completely lawless.

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