Soon I'll die and then I won't have to worry about it anymore
Soon I'll die and then I won't have to worry about it anymore
Soon I'll die and then I won't have to worry about it anymore
I'm glad I wasn't born in the ww1/2 generation.
I'll take economic and ecological collapse over trench warfare any day of the week. I get to type this critique in air conditioning, while those dudes drowned in shell crater cesspools just trying to take a shit.
Not to discount how horrible our future will be. At least compared to what our ancestors went though, we've got it good.
Lmao they did just get fucked by God every step of the way.
"Stay silent, bitch" - Fate
You could say, they took silent in Silent Generation literally.
You have a point. At the same time, the silent generations kids, the boomers, lived through every technological breakthrough, on times of huge economic growth. Also they owned cheap house, had almost free tertiary education and a better labor market. Lastly they had access to banking dept and never woried about the environment. Now they are reaking all these benefits and while they fucked around for us to find out.
There was very little trench warfare in WW2. Unless you're talking about the trenches for the death camps. Those were some really big wide trenches.
They were ubiquitous, it just didn't produce stalemates because armies didn't rely solely on artillery and human waves to break through.
They were still used because they still worked against poorly supported infantry.
Still are used, look at Ukraine.
Obviously the comment was mostly referring to WW1 but there were many battlefields that would have looked very much like their WW1 counterparts until some tanks or air support showed up.
On the bright side they didn't make any boomers.
Or even simpler things that people take for granted, like antibiotics, which weren't discovered until 1942 and weren't widely available until 1945. Can you imagine how awful things like strep throat or a minor infection were to deal with before penicillin.
I grew up dirt poor without healthcare until I got to the Army aat 18.
I've gone through many infections without antibiotics. Nearly died from sepsis once because I didn't go to the ER until the line in my arm was halfway to my shoulder.
Hate to break it to them, but the worst is likely yet to come.
We're aware. I propose we eat the boomers. Gen X is okay, though.
so what would that worst look like?
I suppose this. https://youtu.be/kQkyouPOrD4?si=usnYe3XhJDJhdhgs
I feel lucky to have bought a house in the sliver of time that I had when things lined up perfectly. Fuck
You should feel lucky. I am never going to own a home. Granted, I'm disabled and so broke my Internet is gonna be cut off in 36 hours, but still. Ain't never gonna be a chance for me. My grandmother was able to buy a house by herself while raising two kids. My mother bought a house when she was 24. I'm 31 and gonna die in a cardbox box that I rent for $1800 a month.
$1800/month? That’s fucking insane. Look in to community living groups. I was turned on to it while I was in school (at 35 🤷🏻♂️) as a cheap option while I went back. I know we’ve all had room mate horror stories, but there are people out there who are willing to co-operate and work towards having a home.
Four years on and now I’m running the house (it’s just a rental with lots of rooms) and we have a great group of 5 that’s been together for over a year, including a 9 year old. (Most of us have been together 2 years now, we had a housemate leave amicably last summer).
I’ll admit the first two years were kinda rough. It took me a bit to recognize the red flags I needed to - and to build up the courage to be able to say “no, you wouldn’t be a good fit” to people I’ve known for years. I had some dramatic experiences trying to find the right people, but we’ve got a nice home now and we each pay around $600/month for a whole-ass home!
It does take work; physical, mental, and emotional, but saving $1200/month is worth it. You’ve gotta be able to communicate your needs respectfully and be able to look at yourself and acknowledge where you need to improve to be able to get along with people.
The rewards are worth it. We all work less now so we have weekly dinner and D&D and movie nights and it’s really quite nice. We still bump elbows from time to time, but we all know each other well enough now that it’s easy to solve conflict calmly.
well calyx institute true unlimited data is quite cheap probably also if you want tv then get ota tv also mabye torrent if you use Netflix and stuff
Same but I'm self aware that I got a house thanks to society falling apart and couldn't have done it otherwise.
2008 crisis + foreclosure + house needed tons of work.
I've made it nice with serious updates, but I couldn't happily rebuy my own house and that's scary
Not even a joke, I miss the time when a virus was our biggest concern. That may be insensitive to people who had friends or family die because of it or who live in a country with shitty access to vaccines or health care in general though.
It's awful but I get it...
I've got CPTSD so I'm always stressed and sort of over-preparing for things to go very very wrong. When the pandemic hit, all of those preparations came true. I was expecting the worse and here it was.
Was the only time in my life, at least in the past 15+ years, that I actually felt somewhat relaxed. Then the prices of everything went up and I got stressed for way different reasons.
I watch someone on YouTube who deals with stress. They said they were... I think relieved (can't recall exactly what word they used) because, for once, their stress and the actions resulting from it were now normal.
Oh cool you too?
I mean COVID still hit me harder than I was prepared for and kinda crushed me a little but I picked back up pretty ok but since then been sorta on the back foot and losing steam
One little crisis and my mom got scared, she said "you're moving to your uncle and aunt in Europe"
I pulled up to the house about seven or eight And I yelled to the cabbie, "Yo holmes, smell ya later" I looked at my kingdom I was finally there
Only to realize that the crisis in Europe was just as bad as there.
Slightly better healthcare and job security. Don't go to Australia. It's horrible and full of homeless drop bears.
Hooray!
potentially
Let's see some more can-do attitude, mkay?
But wait, it gets worse!
Damn, this image really makes me feel sorry for Will Smith. He's so pussy whipped, and it's not even funny. His wife is in Scientology and basically uses the church and the threat of taking his kids away and hiding them within the church to get Will to toe into line, so much so that she cucked him with their son's rapper friend (who she groomed after his mother died). This image is from her "red table" internet talk show where she had Will on and they both said they were ok with her sleeping around.
Still though, he gave me my wifi SSID, "KeepMyWiFisNameOutYourF-ingMouth". It literally only just fits lol.
laugh/sobs in living with parents
It's definitely making me bitter towards the concept of owning property
Ah yes, lost two jobs in three months, waiting for my rent to go up, and live in a tent while at uni for the next three years. There is no affordable housing where I live, and employers can fire us at any time. Makes total sense.
As an a vintage millennial I can say w confidence: there will be more and you should prepare yourself. Lol
I am hanging on by a thread as it is. Not being facetious or funny here in saying that I am not okay. Any more of this and I'm going to buckle.
World needs to slow down. Stop having 8 major crises a year. Fuck. Can we tone it back to like... 5?
i lol because it's the only way i can find to keep myself sane through the insanity from the last 40+ years and it's taught me to expect more because boomers and the silent generation (eg biden and trump) are still in control and will be for atleast another 35+ years so shit will continue to happen because they only give a rat's ass about themselves and maybe their children/grandchildren.
unless you're one of those children/grandchildren, more shit will happen and expect to have to vote for those children/grandchildren into office or, at least, expect to call them boss at your next job; assuming you can still get a job.
and don't bother complaining about it; the last 40+ years have also taught me the hard way that doing so will only label you a malcontent and make it more difficult to find work in your future.
learn how to fake a convincing smile to your bosses and find something to lol at for yourself to keep your head above the water.
Just because history doesn't remember it doesn't mean it hasn't always been this way. Just roll with the punches and adapt when it actually affects you.
As an early GenXer...they ain't seen nothing yet.
Bbbb baby?
At least I don't have to worry about kids.
Or having a house
We can have avocado toasts which are basically the only high end thing we can afford and enjoy.
My retirement plan is to go out in a blaze of glory fighting back the fascists in the Water Wars.
Mad Max would at least be the most metal way to dystopia lol
While being called millenials.
That's really the worst thing in all this
Especially when it’s done by old fucks who received everything on silver plate in life
I want to move out of my too expensive to repair "starter home" that I got when I was pretty fresh out of college thinking - get the house now, pay off the mortgage and then I won't have to deal with that when I'm older. 15 years of debt slavery later I'm finally "debt free" and when I go to look for homes under $250k and just see 1 tiny run down house smaller and 3xs older than mine in a 40 mile radius
We'll all basically be Joel in the coming social collapse.
Maybe YOU will but I'll be killed and eaten within 29 hours.
Joel who, Joel Hodgson?
TLOU
Why do I read these threads anyway. Am I that sadistic that I want to see myself depressed?
That would be masochistic, no?
Sadistic would be, if you like to see others suffering. Masochistic, when you like to see yourself suffering
Right right. Good point.
Shit this hits hard...
I'm already dead and nothing's changed
Damn that really sucks. I bet the ping is pretty awful from over there too
Nah ping is pretty good
Only 3? Feels like more...
HAHA We are not doing well....
And they even got rid of our damn plastic straws! Can't even enjoy my drinks without having to suck on a flaccid tube. I'd prefer if they made the lid paper instead.
Oh so true, not like our forefathers who had everything sooo easy ... /s
In the plus side, the older people got a lot of stuff sorted out in advance, worth appreciating if only to keep a clear perspective
The older people had such an excess of income they were able to sort things out in advance. You can't sort things out in advance when you're living paycheck to paycheck.
We live in the most peaceful time in history and we carry the collective knowledge of humanity in our pockets. We have many problems to solve now and in the future but some perspective is useful.
Edit: this thread screams ignorance
Peaceful... I don't know, more like everyone has lost hope for a better future.
Evil people in charge everywhere.
Collective knowledge of humanity in our pockets... But only interested in Facebook and tiktok and Instagram.
Peaceful to who? It's not peaceful for countries at war, neither for black people and other ethnic minorities in the US or here in Brazil since the police is racist and will kill for absolutely nothing. This can't be ignored.
Carrying the collective knowledge of humanity on our pockets is impressive and yet we are pushed sensationalized lies and disinformation for profits sake at every corner. Even when its not for profit, the status quo is so strong that other views and perspectives are easily dismissed. The whole internet is so heavily monetised you can't use it properly without an adblock.
I think this is a better perspective, since it screams that we need change, radical change, the current system cannot solve any of this.
Neither doomerism, nor this positive way of viewing the world are gonna change it for the better, only fighting for it will.
it's starting to become in a watch
Story of every generation, bub. I had the oil crises, 80s collapse, I forgot what it was called in the nineties, dotcom bubble, 2008 banking crisis, and the last few
Returning theme? One big dip per decade. 80s and 08 where the nastiest though.
Wars? One every 5-10 years. Too many to remember.
Yeah, I'm getting old.
And that guy in your pic is 54, pushing 55. Nowhere near 35.
So get your shit together, and take another one on the chin. The working class gets our asses kicked financially ever since money was invented. It's how the system works.
And that guy in your pic is 54, pushing 55. Nowhere near 35.
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Don't forget a looming climate crisis. We have that to look forward to, potentially with societal collapse in the next 50 years due to it, and our oil supply running out.
That's also been something of a recurring theme. Environmental disaster is always 30-50 years out.
Granted, it is definitely getting worse, and accelerating. But, for whatever reason, the historic estimates given for drastic climate events, like glaciers completely melting, has always been ~30 years.
Did you write this message from your own house?
My third even, 100% bank owned. Cannot afford to switch again so I think this is it till the end. All my under 30 colleagues also have their own by the way. It's fucking expensive especially with 3 kids who probably cannot move out the next 10 years.
I know where you're coming from, having older kids myself. It's hard and unfair. But that's how it always been. The unfair part isn't new.
Looking back thinking it was easier in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s is, I'm sorry to say, disillusional. You're just looking at housing (which was also bullshit in the 80s, and 00s by the way) and forget the rest of the shit of those times. 80s wasn't fun, my dad lost his job, we only kept our house because my grand parents died and the inheritance filled the financial hole. 00s also wasn't fun, being a part of the greatest depression since the 30s, I was fortunate to keep my IT job, a lot of mates lost everything. (job, house, marriage, because bad finance kills relations I've learned.) My wife did get fired and still is not at the same level as back then. But we get by, thank you for asking.
Finance is a bitch. Always has been.
Shouldn't you also own your own house? Why are you hostile toward someone who has what everyone should have, when it's other people who are taking what you should have?
Poor boomer, your gen pulled the ladder up firmly behind yas, every gen since is living harder lives than our parents, thanks for fucking up our future
Dude, don't hate on the guy who is in the same position as you, just because they're older and it was someone older who took advantage of both of you.
I was going to be nice. I want to. But you have your head up your ass. I don't even know where to begin if you think this way. Wages vs. Inflation, access to debt ballooning, housing is a corporate commodity. You are lost.
We all are. Always have been. That was my point. I don't own my house, the bank does and as long as I pay each month half of my income they allow me to live in it. I will never own it 100%.
The things you're pointing at have always been a problem, nothing new. And each year those problems grow. As do the deficiencies of our governments, our states.
You are, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, a fucking dumbass.
Thank you, you're an asshole too! :)
Wars? One every 5-10 years. Too many to remember.
People really do need to get a better idea of how common and ongoing war still is, and why it exists. We don't have so much war in the world because people want or need to fight, we have so much war because there is an entire industry dependent on it, such that they manufacture and contrive reasons for war to be fought. There was a heavily decorated US WW1 veteran who flipped and started campaigning against this 100 years ago, and the industry has been churning on for far longer than that.
Maybe I don't want to take shit "on the chin".
Nobody wants that. But getting fucked in life is unfortunately a large part of living it.
what is you're opinion of svb collapse
Since I'm in Europe not much. Not big enough to really change something or set something bigger in motion.
This is what I find interesting: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/15/investing/michael-burry-stock-market-crash/index.html
You're right, young people nowadays are always complaining and do not know the meaning of sacrifice, resilience and endurance. They should be grateful for what they were given and should have been wise enough to leverage it in order to achieve an even better living than their parents who didn't have the chance to even get proper education...
Absolutely meaningless when the end result is death. We do not benefit from our sacrifice, resilience and endurance. Our bosses do. Our landlords. Our government. I get a pittance to maybe survive another week until Death.
Previous generations gaslit themselves thinking all their hard work and perseverance would reward them in the afterlife but we have proven that that is a fucking lie and probably why religion was invented so the peasants would keep working.
And you expect me to be grateful to be a fucking slave to the billionaires?! Fuck you.
Hahaha, that's not what I'm saying but if you want to take it like that, be my guest.
I'm saying shits fucked y'all. I'm also saying that it always has been.
The grass wasn't greener back then. Just a different shade of brown. Housing was better, a lot else was way worse.
Aww poor millennials having a tough time, what's the word ... coping?
Get a skill.
Oh, look, another conservative idiot spouting useless shit. How unique...
Same fucking libtard. Like I give a motherfuck about you.
Get blocked, nerd.
so what you monopoly for millennials player (am gen z)
We also got to see the rise of the Internet and the home computer revolution, as well as smartphones later on. We are the last ones to know what the world was like before all that. When you had to bike your ass to the local library just to look up a cake recipe, and "please allow six weeks for delivery" was the standard.
Anyway, does anyone wanna play Pogs? I got some cool new slammers here...
Let me just feed my tamagotchi quickly and then I'm in.
"if the Tamagotchi doesn't grew into adult in 5 minutes, i don't want to do nothing with it"
I miss the old days of intenet when youtube didnt exist. When gmail was still beta and giving away invites...
Go back just a bit further to the days of AltaVista and I'm good. When it was still possible to store an entire website's markup and its images on one floppy disk. When people were running servers out of their basement and jumpstarting the early web.
Edit: The Fediverse certainly has that 1996 "wild west" feel to it though, I gotta say. We're just missing webrings and ugly-ass tiled backgrounds.
That's so true
Dude, I still have a slammer that's solid copper. I'm going to win all your pogs. So yes, let's play.
don't forget smartwatches and the beggining of vr with the Nintendo virtual (word forgor)
Virtual Boy, it was a love-hate VR experience. Red wire-frames was very Cyberpunk.
Virtual boy
I'll bring my talkboy.