Sheryl Crow says goodbye to her Tesla and donates to NPR: 'You have to decide who you are willing to align with'

Sooo question. Can you leverage your car as a trade in? Or is it not worth it because you still have a loan? I’m no longer looking for a car, but there was a time where you could basically get out for about the same price you got in for

I've been seeing people advocating ruining random Teslas and it's pissing me off. Do people think rightoids make up the majority of EV early adopters? Fucking think about it before you go off spray painting swastikas onto innocent people's cars holy shit.

Americans shit all over Japanese cars and their drives for decades after Pearl Harbor...so, sell it or deal. I'm sorry about the stress and financial part but Emerald Elmo is not someone you want to directly support if at all possible.

If you have a sticker, I'm cool with you. And I say some nasty shit about Tesla owners.

I've never seen a sticker in my town. I give them all dirty fucking looks. Fuck those people. I've stopped letting them in during traffic... And I let EVERYONE in.

I just hope you realize how spineless that comes off to some people.

“I will criticize but I WILL NOT be inconvenienced!” lol

Its one less tesla someone else is buying fron them. Flood the market with preownes teslas

Yeah, he already got the money for the car.

political protest.

You say potato, I say "not visually signaling support for a guy who gives nazi salutes, provides monetary aid to literal nazis, and is currently engaged in an active attempt to permanently end democracy in the US".

I've hated him for 10 years now. If it weren't for their VR headsets I would delete it entirely.

You're kidding right?

Partly true. Demand will persist but had already changed drastically. EV/fast car enthusiast niche now has much more exciting alternatives, like used porsche macans or BMW i4s. The people who don't care what they drive as long as its cheap is the future market of Tesla, and they'll easily survive the drop in their profit margins. After all, the Model 3/Y were designed to be <$30K cars (AFAIR they cost like $23K to make?!).

The first signs of Musk being a bit fraudulent is how he marketed "full self-driving" in the meantime, the transition to "vision-only" (i.e., removal of ultrasonic sensors) really sealed the fate of FSD but is also totally on brand for musk: the willingness to compromise safety further by removing sensor redundancy to maximize profits.

OP: Who would

That's a question, not a binary view. You've made a strawman attack, intended or not.

For the MAGA heads who still like Musk, a Tesla does not roll coal enough. For those who would buy an EV, Tesla is a burned brand.

You're reframing a generalized one to many statement as a literal one to all statement. OP isn't attempting to claim that no one would possibly buy a Tesla, But that the primary sources of ownership in the market are both equally uninterested in purchasing.

There are obviously still people taking ownership of Cybertrucks even now.

As far as a used Tesla, once we agree that a market for Teslas still exists, then that’s all dependent on the price.

Moving those goal posts on out there are we? You made a straw man that OP said 0 market, and now you're 'proving that argument you made wrong, and are going to slide out the argument you made yourself that there is a market therefore you're right.

then that’s all dependent on the price.

What happens when the market for a given price fails to match the cost to produce something?

The only thing that will save the company in the medium term would be for him to divest from it and leave it alone, or funnel tax money from government contracts to keep it floating.

They are the most undesirable manufacturer in the US by a long shot right now.

When you look at the number of recalls they are doing, I wonder where your "pretty decent" rating comes from.

The idea that your car should communicate your values or identity is Bourgeois ideology that I fully reject.

There's a huge difference between just giving in to Amazon's convienience and using their platform, compared to supporting a company whose CEO is a literal nazi... HUGE difference

That's not to say that buying from Amazon is anyway ethical, but at least they aren't literal nazis

Are they decent? They have a high failure rate and as a used vehicle you're likely going to need to drop 20k to replace the dying battery.

Within the budget of a used Tesla Model 3 are a lot of better cars. Jaguar I-Pace, Mustang Mach-E, Hyundai EV5, etc. pp.

Just USAID he’s out basically 10k people out of work domestically,

This is sure to increase Americans' wages. Right? Right???

Where I'm from it's stupid to make your primary vehicle 2WD. Too bad.

Except then you have a Chevy.

I'm not even beginning with the subtle BS from NPR when you got what happened with Musk wrong. Even the timeframe. Let me tell you exactly why Musk got demonised. When he said there should be peace talks between Ukraine and Russia. Yep, this. While now many people say this at the time it was presented somehow as very controversial as the US wanted the war to continue pretending they could win. And anyone wanting peace is a horrible Russian asset. From that moment on every bit of concerted regime press news about him was negative. And the public opinion followed.

All this while he has been a scumbag all his life.

Just a few things this narcistic nutbag has done before:

-As a PR stunt, Musk promised to build a mini-submarine to rescue a boys soccer team that got trapped in a Thai cave in 2018. After receiving vitriol from the Thai and rescue community, he called a Thai rescue worker a pedophile. After the rescuer sues Musk for defamation, Musk pays 50k to a private investigator (and former felon), to dig up dirt on the rescuer., and was told to use "aggressive tactics". Musk's team then told the investigator: “We would like you to immediately move forward with ‘leaking’ this information to the UK press. Obviously must be done very carefully.

-this: https://imgur.com/CeMdDXq

-Not to mention all the shit during Covid. Threathening to move his plant bcs he had to close his plant like everyone else during the worst peak.

-Having horrible conditions in those Tesla and Space X factories. https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-injuries-rates-higher-industry-average-worksafe-2017-5

I could write pages about him. All this time I was amazed at all the press and public still bootlicking Papa Elon. OC he was important for the MIC and economically. Like every scummy oligarch you can get away with a lot as long as you tow the regime line.

You might be right but a multi millionaire donating like what, 40k to charity? This is virtue signaling

Plenty of people get their cars on payments or on a lease.

Someone who has a payment or a lease on theirs might now be underwater on it and have to pay back more money than they'd get from the sale. Not really an affordable situation for a lot of people.

Used teslas are about to be worth less than scrap, and you need a replacement vehicle when you sell, is what I'm getting at. Not to mention most teslas are leased or hardly paid off.

Also a model 3 is like average priced car no?

They've recently (since 2016 or so) have over-corrected after constantly being called "left wing" by Fox News and other bullshit outlets. It's still relatively center, but they walk on eggshells regarding anything that might show perceived liberal bias.