Pixelfed user count has gone vertical.
Editing to let people know that I will be blocking anyone who feels the need to tell me why this graph is inaccurate. I truly don't care, but feel free to chime in with your useless take and land a spot on my block list! 🙂
To be fair, the Y-Axis doesn't start from zero.
That being said, 10% account growth in 2 days is pretty solid. Let's hope both account creation and engagement metrics (MAUs/DAUs) keep growing.
EDIT: Correct Axis type.
Pedantic: You mean Y-axis, right? Technically, neither start at zero but I think you meant Y based on context.
Isn't that a 1‰ growth or am I mathing wrong?
Edit: I'm wrong and that's why I shouldn't comment first thing in the morning. The math is mathing, I'm just not braining.
You are mathing wrong. The GP is correct, except for the fact that it applies to the Y axis.
(... it's a much smaller change on the X axis anyway, something with 10 zeros before the first non-zero digit...)
Its ~12%
One percent of 300,000 would be 3,000.
Starting the y-axis zero wouldn't change the shape of the curve at all, but it would make the increase seem less dramatic.
It's a ~10% increase, but the scale makes it look like the count shot up by 10x at first glance. I know that's why you always need to look at the axis labels, but graphs like this are purposely presented this way because they're easy to misinterpret for the average person.
It was an error on my part.
For other nerds that absolutely hate dishonest and biased graphs, I present the normalized data. Wow. What a vertical line. 🤦♀️
Exactly my first thought seeing this graph.
its the federation effect in action. I expect pixel fed to get a slow trickle of new users as legacy social media cages and milks its current users for ads.
Despite the misleading graph from OP, the slow uptick seems to be common with federated social media because there's little incentive to make viral posts to sell ads.
Just a FYI, Dan who made Pixelfed also does Loops and a few other Fedi projects in case people want more cool stuff to play with.
What is the general outlook on others helping him build them out? I would hate to see tons of the energy dissipate because it was one guy trying his damnedest to out compete tech companies on two fronts.
I'm not that sure on what kind of crew he may or may not have.
I wish they would put the official app on F-Droid. I use PixelDroid, but it'd still be nice to try.
the official app is much slower and less polished than PixelDroid and Pixelix.
they do have their own F-droid repo, though https://fdroid.pixelfed.net/fdroid/repo
It has dark mode, btw.
I used Obtainium to get it
This is what a good app does to a MF.
Impressive indeed
Both sites have different monthly active users numbers, but between 42k and 52k is quite impressive
That’s a lot of mastodon users. And misskey is more popular than I thought.
Happy to see!
I wondering what caused such jump.
Because news broke that Meta lobbied for the TikTok ban. So people are now boycotting Meta platforms like Facebook and Instagram. Since Pixelfed is an Instagram clone and recently launched the app, it has gained a ton of popularity. The timing of the app launch honestly couldn’t have been better, because it gave all of the fleeing Instagram users a nice convenient place to land.
I just signed up after seeing an article saying links to the website are being blocked by Instagram (IIRC). I figured it must be worth looking into if they've gone that far
They released an official all on the app stores
I think it's been out for a while.
Anyways, when I try to log into the main recommended server (where I already have an account), before I even get to the login page, it gives me this error
Which is a pretty funny thing for the official app to say about the official main instance 🤣
Instead I just installed the PWA from the browser. It works ok.
wow, it's really cool. I have also made an account on gram.social (pixelfed server). so far I am liking it :)
You have zoomed in. I want to see the y axel from 0. It have increased with 10% of the users.
I tried self hosting Pixelfed but gave up because it wouldn't work. I'm used to Docker containers that are able to just start up by themselves, but the guide didn't work for me. Maybe it's time to try again.
Make sure you use a MariaDB or MySQL database. Despite what the (very incomplete) docu says, Postgres support is broken.
Really? I assumed postgres was the default for basically all open source projects
I'm not sure the graph is accurate.
What are you supposed to put in the "server url" field in Pixelix? I put the instance I have an account on, because I don't have any other information that would make sense to put there, but nothing happens when I tap the arrow.
Also, what the fuck, fediverse. It's exactly this kind of bullshit that's why nobody joins you. Fix it for Christ's sake. Something this unintuitive doesn't even belong in a beta build. If I was a paid instagram plant making this app to frustrate people into going back to instagram, this is the splash screen I'd use. Stop making it impossible to recommend you in good faith to people I like.
I don't know about that app specifically, but I know some fediverse apps do not have all instances in their directory. For example, fedilab doesn't have friendica.world. I would suggest hunting around for an app that supports your instance, but I agree, it is a dumb problem. What is the point of being able to join whatever instance you want if it is not listed on the app?
Yes, it's the most confusing part, if you want to discover Pixelfed accounts from other servers, you have to go to another server's home page, then click on "Explore" which will show you popular posts by that server's users. I have done this and now I follow a bunch of accounts from other servers, but the process is very convoluted and the average user would not bother I guess.
The web version of Pixelfed does have a "Global Feed" page but that's 99% Mastodon posts because the "Global Feed" is actually global relative to the whole Fediverse.
Lemmy is unique on the fediverse, in that it has communities that you can subscribe to. The closest equivalent is community groups on Friendica. Pixelfed is more similar to Mastodon in that you can follow individual accounts, or hashtags/search terms, which is how you subscribe to different content in your feed. For example, I follow #catsofmastodon and see all posts tagged with that in my feed. Hashtagging your posts is very important if you want it to be seen. Lemmy is more oriented towards discussions, which is why communities make more sense in this context than on Pixelfed or Mastodon.
Oh no, Metas profits!! How will they live in a slightly better world now?
By blocking all mention of Pixelfed on their platforms.
Gotta have an official app, that’s the only reason I made an account and posted anything.
Pretty sure the official app has been in testing for a while. And I feel like I heard recently it's releasing a stable build.
In case I'm wrong though, there's always PixelDroid and the recently released Pixelix.
Also, like most fediverse apps, the first-party, official apps are always very basic and more of a proof-of-concept kind of thing. In most cases you'd be better served with third-party apps.
The official app had been available for everyone in beta for months, and it came out of beta just a few days ago.
Maybe try looking stuff up before stating dumb shit.
Beta doesn’t mean publicly ready. I knew about it and didn’t use it on purpose. Obviously the data shows I wasn’t the only one.
Maybe try critically thinking before stating dumb shit.
And those are just the instances that show up. Nice!
Hey man, I don't care about your graph but can you just block me anyway? Cheers! 🙂
what the fuck is a pixelfed
It's an Instagram replacement.
huh, an interesting idea but i'd be surprised if it gained much traction.
Tends to be a large inertia for these sorts of things, but it might be an interesting small community i suppose.
325,000 users? Had no idea.
Let’s hope the mobile apps become real mobile apps instead of web page wrappers.
I can understand if you build a site that allows itself to be pinned to your device as if it were an app. That’s a great way to get a product onto devices before you have time+effort to build a native app.
It’s quite another thing to have an actual app with a highly visible GUI wrapper whose only purpose is to connect to and display a specific website.
Like, c’mon.
I honestly prefer other sites/apps anyway. Tusky is a great app for connecting all your fediverse accounts in one place, and friendica has a filter by image option that essentially turns it into Pixelfed.
Why should it be an app? I would prefer a website, it works on everything then as everything has a web browser. We don't need to harvest user data here so what would the app provide? Plus it restricts users that are not on apple/android
Hence my second paragraph. Nothing wrong about a web page, just make it pinnable to the home screen. Doable with any website, but it helps a lot for usability if links to do so are explicitly available on the website.
does anyone know why this sudden uptick?
Meta recently decided to viciously lick Trump's ass by, among other things, allowing hate speech on their platforms.
Not everyone is impressed.
Streisand effect. There's a news story going around about Meta intentionally deleting links to Pixelfed: https://www.404media.co/meta-is-blocking-links-to-decentralized-instagram-competitor-pixelfed/
I'm sure Zuckerberg's recent comments are helping as well.
Combo of terrible moderation rules changes by meta, the release of the pixelfed app on Android and iOS, and coverage of that app by major tech news outlets.
Meta has changed their ToS. Prior, you could not accuse someone of being mentally ill without consequence. Now there is an exception allowing shitty people to accuse someone of being mentally ill if they are gay or trans. It's seriously fucked up.
Also, Mark Zuckerberg, the ostrich fucker, removed the fact checker from Meta services.
Along with people being unhappy with Meta, and the looming TikTok ban, Pixelfed just now released apps for it.
looks like ... the climate has changed
Your graph sucks
The heard "someday" there will be Groups...
hmmm.. I never tried out pixelfed. I will now.
edit: oauth not working :/
I still can't get a loops account.
It still doesn't have a webapp that was supposed to ship weeks ago. The android app is buggy, laggy and doesn't allow direct capture from the camera. I'd say loops is not ready yet.
It's still early. It's not even federated yet, just more or less a 1:1 tiktok clone.
Can't get popular if you can't download it easily.
I saw Pixelfed mentioned on TikTok. So yeah!
I'll make an account when it reaches 1M users
So...monday?
We're at 382k registered users captain.
Graph
https://vernissage.photos/home may be better than Pixelfed. https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/28641458
Who pays for their servers?
Seems the trend continued in the days after you posted this graph.
I'd like to point out that a similar thing happened to Lemmy back when the Reddit exodus happened. We have to keep in mind that growth might happen suddenly. But it doesn't necessarily continue indefinitely. And a large chunk of users are likely not to stay. But with this said, it's a good thing. We need independent platforms. Now more than ever.
At this rate, their user base will be larger than atoms are in the universe
Well atoms are pretty small so I'm guessing the user base is already bigger than them.
And atoms are full of empty space, there like 99.9999% empty.
Compress that down for space savings and we could make a huge dent.
I don't really use Instagram, but I might give Pixelfed a try. Does anyone know if it's also a left-wing echo chamber like Lemmy?
Lemmy is a left wing echo-chamber? I thought it was a Linux wing echo chamber?
tomato patato
It's both!
I've mostly seen pictures of landscapes and animals, so not as much
That's cool.
Lies, damn lies, and graphs that don't have the Y-axis starting at 0.
10% growth in a day is nice, but far from a revolution. Let's see this trend going for a month.
Monthly active users increased by 43% between 13 and 14 January: https://pixelfed.fediverse.observer/dailystats
https://xkcd.com/605/
the head dev Dan Sup mentioned the number of active users jumping from 6k to 30k. we'll see how it holds, but there is strength in numbers, people only stay if other people see what they post there. i have good hopes and really want to ditch instagram
Normalized graph for you:
Not a vertical line, at all. For sure cool, but very exaggerated with a dishonest graph.
Wake me up in 2 months when 80% of new users churned.
I've never been on IG but I'm strongly considering a pFed account. Am I churn or am I miniscule net-new?
And yeah, it's a hope that the rumoured meta toxicity is somehow magically not on pFed. I wanna see my nephew's designs and art but not the influencerati junk I fear is on the captive platform.
The y axis starting zero does not change the fact that it's exponentially growing right now. Filter that link posted below for 120 days and it is still a nearly straight vertical line of growth.
It's not exponentially growing. At best, the growth rate has exponentially increased. These are VERY different things.
It was exponentially growing, the platform would come screeching to a halt and crash.
The only thing worse than misrepresentation of statistics is completely misguided criticism of statistical representation.
While we're at it, the X axis doesn't start at zero either.