Intruder
Intruder
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How about don’t break into someone’s house?
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And ruin every American gun owner's wet dream?
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I'm a gun owner, and I have absolutely no interest in shooting someone ever.
You know how people who say people should eat less meat get a lot of flack because of those annoying vegans who spray-paint leather jackets?
That's most gun owners. Perfectly reasonable people who have no interest in violence, take gun safety seriously, and store their guns safely.
The thing is part of responsible gun ownership is not wearing a shirt that says "fuck you, I have a gun." We don't make guns our entire personality, and we understanding that advertising our gun ownership will make people think we're like the redneck jackasses you see on TV AND make it more likely to have our cars and homes broken into.
The number one way to get your car windows smashed and everything in it cleaned out is to put a Glock sticker on the window.
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No offense. Who cares. If someone is an asshole enough to break into someone's house then they better be ready.
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From 2016 ... lets talk about the child that just killed their family/sibling/neighbor/school with daddy's gun, too.
Which one from the last month, you ask ? Doesn't matter ... pick one.
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Yes, but that's not Le Epic Chad Uber Cool. You don't get to experience glee at the thought of being this person.
Why would I want to read something that makes me feel bad? Good Feels Only.
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Most of this thread falls into two categories of people -
Shooting someone, under any condition, and not pouring you heart out for the person = psychopath
People who do illegal things are not actually people, please more authoritarianism
It is pretty obvious that almost no one, commenting here, has been in a situation where your life is truly being threatened, after your safety has been violated, and people who do not understand the how, and why, of criminal behavior. Yet they are all making very self-assured, absolutely black and white logic, statements as if they are the herald of truth.
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There's also the fact that the intruder was shot in the leg and didn't die.
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Yeah, and the kid is 11, instead of thinking "man, a full grown man broke into an 11 year old's house, then threatened his life, and he shot the guy while running away, and then said mean things to him, he must have been in the middle of a big mind fuck, one that adults have issues dealing with, at 11, and isn't acting normally, and this will have effects down the line we can't foresee" many are like "I know exactly how people should behave to this specific childhood trauma, and this child is definitely a psychopath".
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"Confidently incorrect"
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I understand that it's self defense, but does it feel weird to anyone else how comfortable a kid is with killing another person?? He doesn't seem to have much remorse.
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I got no proof other than my personal experiences growing up and observing kids while teaching them in groups at a school.
Children by in large seem to have little empathy for others. Children have little to no problem with bullying others without any emotional issues. Even to the point of pushing other kids to suicide. They have little regard for others and even less control over maturity.
I think empathy is something that you develop as you grow older. It's more a mark of adulthood than childhood.
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Sadly, this is very similar of my wife's understanding of teaching kids from 11-18. Emotional intelligence is very different from standard intelligence, and it develops at different times for different people.
Sometimes it's a pure lack of empathy, and other times it's simply not being able to understand that people have their own shit they're dealing with. It can be simple stuff like bullying someone going through a rough time at home/school, or showing zero remorse when a kid they've assaulted goes blind due to brain damage because "the kid was a fucking dweeb". Some of the stories I've heard second-hand are absolutely fucking tragic, even in good schools.
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I don't know about that. I think a lot of kids feel empathy from a young age, and bullying behaviors are rather caused by a harsh environment and how they are treated by other people, especially parents.
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He didn't kill the intruder.
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The guy was shot in the leg. It doesn't say in any of the news coverage that he died.
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Is it not possible that this photo was taken prior to the incident, and that the kid was bothered by the whole situation? I have a hard time taking the "little baby" comment too seriously. People act in very unusual ways when overdosing on adrenaline.
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There is a news logo on the bottom. This is likely a still from an interview about the incident
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Fair point. I can see myself using some comment like that to cope if I were in that situation.
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Murca
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A world where a kid can remorselessly shoot someone. Isn’t that great. DGAF if the guy “deserved” it or not for breaking in.
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Doesn't look like a dancer.
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I don't know if teabagging counts as dancing anyway
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Isn't this basically the plot of "Home Alone" and it's very popular sequels playing out with a firearm? With FPS games as the cultural backdrop, why is anyone shocked at this? Or is this just hand-wringing?
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The bandits in Home Alone had many chances to turn back and abandon the job.
You shoot someone, they stay shot.
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Many of the cutesy cartoony traps in Home Alone would have absolutely killed the bandits in real life.
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That's the beauty of it
Unless you are a criminal. Those fuckers can handle a LOT of bullets inside their bodies. Not to count stabs. SO MANY stabs
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I mean good but is no one worried about the kid not having any issues with taking someone's life? Maybe I'm missing out on some extra pieces of info, but it is a bit concerning even if it is an intruder.
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He'll probably turn out "normal," which is to say an asshole with several mental disorders.
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So Lemmy. Nice
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He didn't actually kill the intruder so that's something he can probably look forward to either after joining the military or law enforcement.
But joking aside, children by in large, don't seem to have much empathy about such things. You can see this in the bullying they do in schools and on the playgrounds. And it doesn't seem to bother them much.
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He didn't kill the suspect just injured and the suspect had threatened to kill him.
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If you break into a home you get what you deserve and that includes insults and\or deletion.
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apparently lemmitors hate themselves so much that self defense is incomprehensible to them
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Hilarity ensues when Lemmy subscribers start buying guns en masse to ridicule and own republicans after losing the elections, becoming the very thing they swore to destroy
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In this case, a bullet to the leg which he survived.
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I used to be a burglar like him, until I took a bullet to the knee
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Imagine living in a society so deeply fucked up that some people feel the need to become burglars and others feel the need that attacking them with deadly weapons is the only option.
And then imagine that this is celebrated.
Oh well...
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Na, fuck that, This guy might be a saint with the most tragic relatable backstory imaginable but the last thing this kid should do is hesitate long enough to hear that story or believe it, also a kid just can’t fight back even if he could he shouldn’t take the chances, as far as him saying he cried like a baby, 🤷 you broke into my house dude you aren’t gonna be praised. This kid has every right to be proud, in this situation we are nothing but animals and he did exactly the right thing.
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you broke into my house dude you aren’t gonna be praised
Of course not.
This kid has every right to be proud, in this situation we are nothing but animals and he did exactly the right thing.
So is it right to put deadly weapons into the hands of children?
What if he had killed the burglar? Good thing to have on the conscience of a child, right?Don't get me wrong. I totally understand that in extreme situations people should defend themselves. But was this an extreme situation which justifies these actions?
What the child said is already deeply disturbing:
"I told him I was going to kill him if he didn't get out of my house," said Chris.
And why the fuck do children have access to weapons?
he grabbed a 9mm handgun
Then there is this:
The intruder made it out the front door, but that's when Chris started firing off bullets. As the intruder was about to jump a fence, Chris's 12th and final shot hit the bad guy in the leg.
( Citations from: https://www.wptv.com/news/national/chris-gaither-11-year-old-boy-shoots-intruder-who-cried-like-a-baby )
Intruder was outside, going away, and the kid started shooting.
The kid could've just ran away. Instead of trying to kill someone or getting themselves killed by such a behaviour.No. The kid shouldn't be proud. Neither should anyone. That's just fucked up. And raising kids to become possibly killers is not making it better overall.
He can be lucky not to have killed that man and that he (the kid) didn't get seriously injured.People can and should be better than this.
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I don't understand how this comment has been upvoted, especially as a response to another comment that boils down to "it sucks that people are driven to burglary and it sucks that people have to defend themselves with deadly force from burglary"
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Sounds pretty legit to me. It's fucked people need to rob but you come to take someone's things and you're naive if you don't think violence is a potential outcome.
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It's not the taking the things that's the issue, it's that the method of taking the things inherently comes with the either implicit or explicit threat of bodily harm or violence in order for the criminal to get what he wants. Nobody's going to break into your house for your stuff, or leap out of a dark alley and demand your wallet, and when you tell them "no" just shrug and walk away. They're going to shove a gun in your face or try to beat you up.
If you show up with the intent of employing force, you absolutely should not be surprised if people employ force against you in turn.
That, and if you want to stick it to The Man there are much more suitable targets than victimizing individual people who just as likely have it as tough as you do. Go knock over a Walmart or something. For fuck's sake.
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and you're naive if you don't think violence is a potential outcome
Currently, of course. Point is, people can be better. On both sides. And instead of nurturing our compassion and collective support, we praise violence and let continue the wheel to roll which has already destroyed countless of lives.
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It's just text on a screen. No idea of the details or even if it's fabricated from whole cloth.
The only thing that's important is the image of blood and terror and pain being worshipped by people who secretly yearn for the chance to inflict it on others.
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After visiting some crime scenes etc ... I know there is a human factor to both sides ... Victim, criminal etc. But I just do not feel that much sympathy towards the criminal anymore. They had a choice. This time they chose poorly. Breaking into a house in any of the red states is Russian roulette. This time he just chose the loaded cylinder.
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cant believe the amount of people feeling bad for the intruder
like, do you also feel bad if a nazi gets punched?
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No but death is always tragic. It's almost impossible to deserve death. You can defend yourself, but mocking someone you just killed is psychopath behaviour. Things like this don't happen in other countries.
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Good thing the guy didn't die then!
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Death is not always tragic. Life is cheap and always had been. The natural world shows us how little the world cares about life and always has. Just accept this, try to be better than this and move on
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they definitely do happen in other countries. look up the necklacing incidents in Nigeria. If you look into it, you'll find that many cultures do not take kindly to theft or b&e and respond in far more violent ways than you may expect.
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Wait until that intruder is a postal worker/drunk neighbor/ distant relative. Capital punishment is too severe.
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Why is the postal worker letting themselves into my house and threatening with language like "I'll F you up?"
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yeah sorry buddy but if someone is forcing their way into my home, how the fuck am I supposed to know what their intentions are? I'm bashing their head in
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Looooong list of punchable people in the US atm.
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Line up, fuckers!
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Some Lemmings have this weird idea that just because simple thieves don't deserve death for stealing bread or whatever that home invasions shouldn't be treated as deadly threats.
Now if you want to talk about a duty to retreat, or that when an invader flees you don't have a right to shoot them in the back because they're no longer a threat that's one thing but it's not even a matter of the "nuance" our resident hypocrites like to babble on about when it's a kid and we don't know what the invader was doing because it's a shitpost meme and we don't have the full story.
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So many dumbasses who think Professor Barclay is being serious. It's a joke. The guy did not die. It's dark humor.
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sooooo... does this mean he's becoming the school's quiet kid or not ?
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Body shaming a child, ascribing a whole persona based on an abberant situation, then act absolutely smug about it all. How very European.
Children grow out of being overweight all the time. And the facts are that someone WAS breaking into this house that was occupied by a child. If there were no gun, perhaps this would have been a much different article.
ETA: The OP had said something to the effect of, "kid is clearly very overweight, has no problem killing someone else and there were guns. How very American"
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He's a kid. Shaming him for his weight and then assuming his mental state at the moment is not the "own" you think it is
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Dude broke into his house, stole his stuff and threatened to kill him. Everyone has a right to defend themselves.
The guy lived, by the way. He was shot in the leg and was treated in hospital.
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Wow that kid is so merciful, only a cautionary shot, what an example
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Canadian here who thinks the kid was in the right and would still have been it he had aimed for center of mass instead of the leg.
Do you think people should be safe to carry out home invasions without occupants of the home being able to defend themselves?
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Life is cheap in the red states.
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He lived.
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Call the cops-..
Now you have two dummies Fortnite dancing over your dying body.
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cop T-poses through the floor
t...f...
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This actually makes it so much better
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Based kid murdering an attacker
Lol at Lemmy crying like babies because the kid defended himself LMAO 🤣
And then you want to toot your own horn by owning guns to threaten republicans kjjjj
I'd say you guys are disconnected with reality but these comments just make you all look unhinged
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What's it like being stupid?
I was here ready to support someone who says "hey don't break into people's houses" and then you start acting like a shitbird and I gotta downvote, I can't even back you up.
I'm a dirty gun-owning Democrat, and it doesn't matter what your political affiliation is, if you break into my house with my wife and children inside, you're gonna have trouble.
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What a psychopath. Anyone wanna bet he becomes a cop?
What's the over/under that his dad is one?
The intruder was his dad
Psychopathy as a diagnoses is bullshit. People disassociate in different ways during traumatic events and as a coping mechanism for heightened stress all the time, and this reads exactly like that.
This does clearly show the kid is well-conditioned for being a cop, though. He seems like he'd be great at 'just following orders'. at the same time, he'd probably be good as a paramedic or a fireman too, since all those occupations require you to emotionally disassociate to get your job done effectively.
Stfu with that logic, get on the ACAB circlejerk train.
"I've always been a defender of justice. Like when I bravely defended my home at the age of 11"
Would you rather just let the kid be at the whim of the intruder? How much sympathy should a kid be expected to give to someone who broke into his home?
This could have easily turned into a barricaded suspect with a hostage.
Mocking someone who is bleeding out in front of you is literal psychopath behavior.
There's a huge difference between defending yourself and mocking a person you just hurt.
A bloody body should trigger horror and disgust.
Do you strip and bend over for home intruders? Very sane and respectable of you. Show them where the safe is too, best be polite. Wouldn't want to offend the person invading your fucking home uninvited to fuel their drug addiction.
The next Rittenhouse or Zimmerman more likely.