I've yet to hear a good criticism of Biden that isn't also true of Trump. Yet the media rarely writes a headline like "Trump should drop out/resign/kill himself"

Because he obviously won't. He will pursue your freedoms, wealth and sanity until his dying breath.

Biden stuttered and is old.
Neither disqualifies him for the presidency
- B-B-But the raspy voice!!
- This is not fair description of his debate performance. He didn't stutter, he crashed like an old computer trying to keep 50 chrome tabs running and then barely dragged himself out of it with incoherent nonsense like "we beat Medicare."
  It doesn't disqualify him, it just lowers the bar for Trump.
- He has even said he is slowing down and can't debate as well as used to. This doesn't technically disqualify him, but it should be a huge red flag that he isn't and wasn't the best candidate. That's the real problem.
- Unfortunately the question isn't whether to fire him, but if he can win an election appearing as a sickly confused old man.
  He spit in the face of an energized lefty base, so he is gambling the future of the country on low information Pennsylvanian voters in a popularity contest.
- If you can't stay on topic in a stressful situation then yeah, there might be a fucking problem. A Stutter is fine. Switching topics completely is not a stutter.
- Trumps a better speaker but he's been eating Mickey D's for the last 65 years, an age difference of 3 years is not a huge advantage.
Exactly! If you say that Biden should drop out for the good of the country, a bunch of people nod their heads, but if you say trump should, everyone just laughs.
I'm for sure on team "Not Trump, and not a Republican." I think the debate really may have weakened Biden's chances, but I can't think of anyone who I'm confident could do better in the election. And I really mean "in the election" - there are certainly some who I think could do better as president, but they either don't have the name recognition or wouldn't pull in the moderates.
I'd love to see a true progressive, but there are an awful lot of people who simply won't vote for one. So I'm sticking with Biden and hoping for the best.
- It's because dropping out is 100% not in Trump's character. He's in the race for himself, everyone - even his supporters - knows that, and asking him to drop out is like asking a zebra to try all-black.
  Biden, OTOH, is a public servant and presents himself as trying to do the best things possible for the country. He ran in 2020 to 'save us from Trump,' and he's running again with that premise. You can disagree with Biden on what is best for the country, and maybe convince him that someone else might be better able to beat Trump in 2024. I'm not really all that engaged, so I have no idea who the next-best Democrat would be, but Biden stepping aside is at least within the realm of conceivable possibilities.
- I’d love to see a true progressive, but there are an awful lot of people who simply won’t vote for one. So I’m sticking with Biden and hoping for the best.
  There's an awful lot of people who also simply won't vote for someone in Biden's physical condition. Don't even need to replace him with someone progressive. Most of his voters are "blue no matter who" people who wouldn't care if he was replaced.
- The ones that aren't forced to face the wall, anyway.
- https://www.webfx.com/blog/internet/the-6-companies-that-own-almost-all-media-infographic/
He should definitely do the last one
- I hate it when people fantasizes with the death of that asshole.
  Because 1) if he dies, he will be immediately elevated to god status. Not good. Case in point: Venezuela.
  And 2) I want that asshole to spend his days in prison, even if it's house arrest.
I've yet to hear a good criticism of Biden that isn't also true of Trump.
Example?
Has Biden tried to overturn the government?
Edit: I see it now. Disregard the above.
- I think you're taking it the wrong way. I understand it as "anything negative about Biden, is also true about Trump"
  Biden is old, so is Trump
  Biden struggles speaking cohesively, so does Trump
  etc.
- That is a valid criticism of Trump that is not true for biden. What op said was that any valid criticism of biden would also be true for trump, not the other way around. So trump has all the bad stuff that biden has plus the whole traitor, convicted criminal, narcissistic cult leader thing
- All men are apes, but not all apes are men.
Because he obviously won’t.
Exactly.
No one is talking about trump doing the selfless thing, because it's not going to happen.
But Biden is supposed to be better than trump.
And unlike trump, Biden isn't facing prison if he doesn't personally win. He's just trying to stop trump, but so are lots of other people. So shouldn't we let the person with the best chances go?
Like, if you had a game winning free throw, and any player can take it, are you putting Shaq up there or Michael Jordan?
Like, Rudy is a great movie, and America loves to root for the underdog. But you don't put him in on the last play of the Super Bowl.
You put your best players in. And Biden and his team in the DNC are obviously not our best people. They can step aside now, or after they lose and let trump back in the White House.

Trump attacks the military. He denigratesthe Justice Department and judges. He belittles the FBI and the CIA. He picks fights with allies and cozies up to dictators.

Trump is an unserious carnival barker running for the most serious job in the world. During his last term, Trump served himself and not the American people.

These are the kinds of articles we need from our media, and also needed sooner. Much sooner.

To understand this scathing rebuttal, you should know about the original NYTimes article, where their editorial board wrote:

To Serve His Country, President Biden Should Leave the Race

This is a wonderfully penned counterpunch. Shout out to my local paper for serving it up

Both of the articles are correct.
It's cute. But this is, of course, a given. And we don't expect Hitler to do the right thing. We expect Biden to.
- We expect biden to.
  No we don't. Some of us believe there's a shadow of a prayer he might be pushed into it by Democrat party leaders and his own advisors, but even the politicos calling for his withdrawal have been clear that they expect him to lurch his way to an electoral disaster.
Not really it ignores NYT's actual argument.

He isn't interested in serving anyone but himself.

That's not even the worst of it. He actively works for a hostile power.
- Either putin has footage of him killing someone or he is getting paid. Either way its just more self serving crimes.

To serve his country...

When has he ever done anything to even hint that he serves anything but himself?

When he dies will be the first, and only, time.
It’s a play on the NYT headline asking Biden to leave the race

He’s not here to serve his country, he’s here to exploit it.

"to serve his country, Donald Trump should.."

Lemme stop you right there

He should try injecting bleach into his lungs

his country is russia, you fucking idiots.

Uuuh! I fucking agree! Oh putin! Here comes Trumpfus!

Hah, no ones deluded enough to think trump wants to serve America or even that he gives a flying f*ck about what's good for it. This man is the pure crystallisation of "I don't need to win, I just need you to lose". He'll set this country on fire before taking any kind of responsibility or agency for the position he's vying for.

Hah, no ones deluded enough to think trump wants to serve America or even that he gives a flying f*ck about what’s good for it.
Oh my sweet summer child...
They believe that Trump is simultaneously the reincarnation of JFK jr, and JFK jr is going to come back from the dead and be his VP. Scientist need to invent about 200 more dimensions in order to describe the space their mental gymnastics flips and cartwheels through.
- Do they really. I've been lucky enough not to know or interact with anyone like this. My impression has been he's patently corrupt enough to push through things they want so they support him. Like conservative supreme court justices who abolished roe v wade. The man is a habitual adulterer and I doubt anyone thinks he hasn't had a mistress get an abortion. They don't care he doesn't represent their ideals, they just care he'll support them regardless.
He needs to win so he gets that sweet, sweet presidential immunity for the countless crimes he has committed. Whether that fully protects him remains to be seen, but that's clearly the goal.

He has never given a single fuck about serving anyone other than himself.

NYT did in fact talk about Trump in their editorial. They lamented that any sane party would consider him ineligible after his debate performance. But because we can't have nice things, the onus is now on Biden.

All the "rebuttals" keep ignoring that.

Donald Trump has never served anything except himself and maybe a few tennis balls.

McDonalds is famously not a serving restaurant.

He serves only himself. It is delusional to believe otherwise

Who believes that Trump would serve his country? Trump would happily see the country go down in f-ing flames if it served him. Because he is the only one who counts for him, anything else does not matter at all.

But then he wouldn't make any money.

Tbh he could probably make plenty as a conservative media personality of some kind. Start some webshow and sell tacky branded garbage and fake health supplements to his supporters or something like that
- He could even start some kind of alternative social media site and branded bibles.
And he might go to jail. (might)
- He definitely will if all the prosecutions against him continued to completion…that’s why he needs to stay in the race at this point. He doesn’t give a fuck about the country.

Finally, someone who actually thinks, instead of just a reactionary hour take

Media to the Mentally Unwell: Just Stop Being Mentally Unwell

Look, kid! Someone that thinks Trump gives a fuck about the US!

Literally anyone else is looking mighty good right now

Haha trump only serves himself

The human race? Absolutely.

It’s a good thing to see that coming from the most populated city in a swing state.

Philly is also the city that violently chased the Patriot Front out when they tried to do a march, like literally just set on them whacking them with big sticks sending them packing back into their U-Haul van and driving away shamefully. Like Han Solo unhesitatingly shooting at Vader the instant he sees him sat at the dinner table for his big betrayal speech. Be like Philly.
Sadly, Philly isn’t what swings the state. It’s actually the turnout in the Philly suburbs (2 million+ live in the bordering counties) that turns the races. Philly will always be reliably dem. The suburban vote swings
- That makes sense. Thanks for the insight!

I like the idea of both dropping out

You mean the draft dodger, ressurective, dictator admiring, classified document stealing, dementing, lying, grifting, make-up wearing Cheeto ? He only serves himself.

We have a better chance for a herpes never flaring up again

Which race, the human race? Who’s to say he was ever a part of it?

The Turdlings called. They said we can keep their village idiot.

That it is up to his voluntary-withdrawl is absolute proof that the system never was engineered to be best-for-the-country as its "center", instead was engineered to allow the politically-powerful to wear/wield the country, for their own interests.

You can't hide if you're a bat, pretending to be a bird: the skeletons are sooo utterly-different, that the way their motions work makes it impossible to hide the truth.

Same with this.

IF it had been engineered to be best-for-the-country,

then the country would automatically prevent DarkHexad people from competing for authority.

DarkHexad: narcissism / machiavellianism / sociopathy-psychopathy / nihilism / sadism / systemic-dishonesty

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This statement assumes that the Presidential candidates have any intention of "serving the country" as far as I can remember, they've only been interested in serving themselves, and all benefits and consequences the county saw was purely a coincidental side effect.

You’re half right
Going forward from Clinton I think it goes, president by president:
Budget surplus and great GDP (fuck the poor tho)
ACA, attempts at gun control, the occasional drone strike as a treat
Unions, working-class wages, climate change
I think as far as the Republican side it’s pretty much always been “more for me and my immediate friends,” yes. The Democrats have pretty reliably attempted to pursue policies which are trying to benefit “the country” though, with increasingly working class aligned definitions over time of who it is that represents “the country”.
- The Democrats have pretty reliably attempted to pursue policies which are trying to benefit “the country” with increasingly working class aligned definitions of who it is that represents “the country”.
  And even more reliably find just enough no votes to make sure the policies they're ostensibly pursuing don't pass.
There are easier and better ways to accrue power than running for President. Most candidates want to serve the country, trump obviously excluded.
- The presidency is such a weird position. It's like you're kind of the boss, but you're also kind of an employee. There's a whole staff of people telling you where you have to go and what rules you have to follow, and you're constantly getting shit on in public for your job performance, and everything bad that happens practically anywhere in the world is at least partially your fault. You can literally call the biggest military power in the world on the phone and tell them who to kill and (subject to certain restrictions), they'll just go and do it, but you're not allowed to drive a car.
  It's just bizarre. Like a lot of the American system, I actually really like the way the system is set up, for as weird as it is.
Happy belated Cake Day.
- Oh, thanks! I didn't notice :)

The author is delusional if they think there is any chance of the happening

That's not the point

Trump attacks the military. He denigrates the Justice Department and judges. He belittles the FBI and the CIA.

Stop trying to convince me to vote for Trump, it's not going to happen.

Life long democrat that hates everything about Donald Trump here. I once famously said I will vote for used condom before I vote for Donald Trump.

Am I taking crazy pills???

On the debate, I, with my own two eyes, saw that our president Joe Biden is senile. Yet, today everyone is saying that Donald Trump was so bad, he should drop.

Donald Trump was a selfish, narcissist, lying, arrogant, bastard in 2016, 2020, and 2024 debates. As somebody that watches all our the presidential debates, I did not see any difference in Donald Trump, and his behavior, since 2020.

Biden, on the other hand, very clearly has dementia. I would know. My father has been battling dementia for the last few years. My father is a lot more capable than Joe Biden at this moment.

All of these articles are damage control from Democrats.

Yeah I don't get why Democrats let Joe Biden run as he WILL pass away before this term is over (not wishful thinking and I'd wish him another 50 years more, but the guy just really doesn't look like he'll be around for another 4 more years), but ignoring that...
Why are they focussing on Joe's issues with Trump? Focus on the dictatorship part, perhaps? On the sheer incompetece? On the insanity? The crimes? The fucking insurrection? There are a million sun blazing red flags they could wave about trump, yet they try to.focus on things where Joe actually failed himself?
Yeah, poor Joe is senile, I get it, and people should still vote for him cuz they're living in the greatest country where they have the choice between an evil clown dictator and a senile dying grandpa. It sucks, but those are the choices. Destroy the world, or effectively vote for Joe's running mate, as that person will be in charge soon.
Dear god joe, please don't die right before the elections, that would be baaaaadddd
- I feel trump will also pass in the next 4 years. Dude is massively overweight and extremely unhealthy compared to Biden even if he has dementia.

But the win is so easy at this point. And watching the reaction of his opposition is fkin delicious.

But hey, this time we don't have random people claiming they're going to move to Canada.