Immigration absolutely helps the US economy, because it parasitically siphons all the skilled workers out of other countries that it underdevelops and hoards their labor for itself.

People think remittances help underdeveloped countries, but labor is the superior of capital, losing that skilled labor is never worth the paltry sums that get sent back home. It's just another shape that imperialism takes.

In Canada we heavily base immigration on education. So we're siphoning off the best educated of other countries. I mean this is just fucking those countries.
- That's truly one of the worst things about brain drain / educated people moving to the imperial core countries for the high salaries. Global south countries really need educated young people helping to solve their own problems, and Canada and the US rip out their heart and soul.
  At least in tech / programming, a good chunk of us are devoting most of our labor time to not just wasteful things, but actively harmful things, like trying to get people to click on ads, or increasing viral engagement.
- I get what you two are saying, but this kind of removes agency from the people doing the moving.
  Also: Should people not be allowed to move to another country if they’re “too useful” or “skilled”?
- I mean that's the whole point of the US higher education system, excepting the Republicans (with the help of Democrats) broke the parts of our immigration system that is supposed to take advantage of educating the world.
Did you just say people moving to the US for a better life are a part of imperialism?
- Don't misunderstand, the people moving to the US are blameless. Imperialism works by siphoning up all of the skilled labor around the world for itself in order to make life better for people within the imperial core, and this is part of how the imperial nations underdevelop other countries. People get educations in their home countries (often at the government's expense) and then they take that education out of the country to put it to use in the US (or France or Canada etc). They're just going where the jobs are, though, that's not their fault at all.
Except where there's little opportunity to utilize the highly skilled labor. They are going abroad anyway to find job opportunities befitting of their skill set and the highest bidder. Doesn't matter if the US or EU took them, they're leaving because the local opportunity doesn't exist.
- Yes, and the people who could develop that local opportunity aren't there. They all leave as soon as they can.
  That's why I said they're underdeveloped countries. They're not "developing" in truth, but are being kept from becoming developed. How do you think that happens? In part it happens because of the IMF giving predatory loans and then imposing austerity on the people when the government can't pay their loans back, but it also happens because labor is the superior of capital and these countries are losing skilled labor.
  I am not blaming them for leaving their countries. I am blaming underdevelopment, which is a product of imperialism.
- And who maintains the status quo, that there is no local opportunity so they have to coon out to FIVE-EYES nations?

The president made the remark while arguing that Japan, along with Russia and China, would perform better economically if the countries embraced immigration more.

Oh, well that's true enough. Japan is crazy anti immigration despite that being a solution to their low birth rate.

I can't speak to Russia or China, but Japan has a history of xenophobia going back CENTURIES. It's not exactly a newsflash.

True, also: from what I understand, Korea has been historically worse.
- Just looked it up, looks like a nosedive!
Even still, it's a bit like the pot calling the kettle black.
- That pot better be careful around police...
- What are the effective rates of immigration for the involved countries ?
- Not enough people know about the time when we invaded Canada and raped all their women
Russia is wildly xenophobic
- Which Russians? Ethnic groups in Russia

I think Biden's definition of xenophobic here is "unwilling to sacrifice everything in a suicidal world war on the Pacific front"
- No. It means not liking foreigners, making it hard for them to find housing or get credits.
About all 3 tbh. China and russia are literally in the middle of committing genocides. Doesnt get much more xenophobic than that lol

Why am I seeing multiple news reports today about Joe Biden where they remove context to polarize his comments further? This feels, to me, like a new media trend

Propaganda?
- It doesn’t need to be propaganda, just maximizing clicks will do that for you organically.
- Yes. Foreign or domestic. Who knows?
It ain't new, half of W's bushisms were an attempt to avoid giving news media a sound bite or quote out of context
This is on .ml
- Oh man, I almost never check. It sure is.

Japan simply is xenophobic. I lived there for 2 years. That's just a fact.

I lived there for four years. Nice and friendly people. Never felt unsafe.
- Unsafe doesn't mean they liked or respected you as an equal
- I shared that experience. I also was actively excluded from all sorts of things (including essential services) because I was a foreigner. Whenever a group of expats got together, at some point in the night, the conversation would be about how everyone got discriminated against recently.
- Welcome, though? They pretty famously don't like foreigners around them, even if they're not going to say it directly to you.
- Never felt unsafe is a very low bar. Not feeling unsafe now

He's not wrong but also I believe there's a saying in English about stones and glass houses.

Even the most bigoted parts of the US are nowhere near as xenophobic as Japan. Housing discrimination based on race is still perfectly acceptable over there, many people will refuse to rent to foreigners.
- Do you think there isn't housing discrimination happening in the US?
  Black families often have their homes appraised for less than white family homes.
  Housing applications often get denied if the person has a non white last name.
  Hell, the last time I was looking around for a room to rent I got asked multiple times over the phone. "You're white right?"
- perfectly acceptable
  At least some governments in Japan appear to disagree:
  https://jobsinjapan.com/living-in-japan-guide/housing-discrimination-challenges-faced-by-foreigners-in-japan/
  Japan signed the “International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD)” in 1996
  Tokyo Metropolitan Government educates real estate agents on the illegality of nationality-based rental refusals, considering them discriminatory
  And the article itself seems to contradict with those statements...
Xeno Biden doesn't care.
Don't let your stones hang out if you live in a glass house? /s
I swear I've heard balls referred to as stones likely by a British person, but I don't know if I'm making that up.

China xenophobic? I don’t think Biden knows what the word means. The oldest mosque outside of the Middle East is in China of all places built in 627 CE, and still standing.

What happened to the mosques in Spain and Occupied Palestine? Turned into bars and chicken coops.

not demolishing a single mosque isn't exactly the kind of standard one sets when determining xenophobia
- still a higher standard than many modern Western states such as Israel, or a modern democracy such as India, if the Chinese were xenophobic they could have demolished the mosque at any point in history, they didn't
Okay I hate the West as much as any other guy, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. China 1400 years ago isn't in any way the same as China today. Nowadays it's that most Muslim Chinese groups are accepted as Chinese (the Hui are about as Chinese as the Han, for example) and that's why they can practice Islam in peace; otherwise you're treated like the Uighurs. Also foreigners in China are absolutely treated as outsiders; that's just a fact.
- dynasties and ideologies came and went in China and the mosques still stand
  what happened to mosques in Spain? what is happening to mosques in Occupied Palestine and India right now?
  Islam is xeno (foreign) to China and yet you have mosques from the 7th and 8th centuries still standing
  otherwise you’re treated like the Uighurs.
  here's an interesting fact, they are the only Turkic people who still use their centuries old script, and haven't been secularized and westernized unlike Turks in the former USSR or Turkiye.
  The issue for the Uyghurs is separatism, not Islam or culture in particular. No nation will tolerate separatists. https://dkiapcss.edu/college/publications/uyghur-muslim-ethnic-separatism-in-xinjiang-china/ https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/east-turkestan-islamic-movement-etim
  The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation report on the Uyghur did not find anything concerning, though the OIC has been criticized by Western rights groups. Interestingly, when it comes to Palestine the situation is reversed, where the OIC is speaking up but Western rights groups have been mostly silent. It is confusing seeing Anthony Blinken criticize China for the alleged genocide of Uyghurs, I haven't seen any images or videos that suggest it is real, but unabashedly defend Israel's actions which are clear and evident genocide.
- Okay I hate the West as much as any other guy, but
  but you're about to power right on through that, aren't you?
  otherwise you’re treated like the Uighurs.
  Shot, chaser. Thanks for giving me a three-line lib Bingo, btw; the last space I needed was 'someone trying to resurrect Adrian Zenz in this thread'.

I will instantly downvote that hag

I mean he's not wrong, but where does he expect China to get immigrants from? They're 20% of the world.

He's also cherry picking data. It's a weird flex.
The proportion of immigrants in the US isn't exactly high compared to somewhere like Canada.
- I mean the US is 15% immigrants, or about 50 million people. I know we like to shit on the US but that's a ridiculously big number.

Lmfao

As always, more projection

Lol what?
- He's literally pushing through an anti-immigration bill, also we have always had a strong nativist movement
- The US is one of the most xenophobic countries in the world.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states-2024#:~:text=How%20many%20U.S.%20residents%20are,or%2020%20percent)%20from%202010.

As neat as Japan sounds and as much as I’d like to be there, I mean, he’s not wrong

I watch YouTubers who moved to and live there talk about how they’re just indefinitely treated like a tourist

Yet Japan still bows down to their masters in DC. Can Japan for once wake up along with occupied Korea?

There are a lot of people in South Korea that hates the US and Japan way more than the DPRK or China. There are still a strong anti-US sentiment in Okinawa and near US bases in Japan, these led to the 1960 and 1970 Anpo protests in Japan.

Pretty much every country in the world where citizenship, nationality, and ethnicity are the same thing you find xenophobia.

I think "extremely ethnocentric" is a more fair description/criticism of Japan. Close to 98% of their population is ethnically homogeneous, so it kinda makes sense.

You'd be wrong

Who cares what this genocidal fascist has to say. The sooner he kicks it the better it will be for everyone else.

📽️

Wait Biden actually said something true?

Broken clocks and all that - but this one only has one hand working at this point. We're always counting down to midnight, for some reason.

I don't live in Japan. But, I don't see the issue with Japan being 'xenophobic'.

Xenophobia is a bad thing, so being xenophobic is bad too. 👍

FFS. In a site where "news" = "stupid shit that happens in the US", can something named "world news" exclude the US? Please? Does it need to be called "non US news"?

I know other countries are mentioned here. But it's just the ramblings of dementia.

Mr. “Super-predators” and “kill their women and children”?

Ironic

Oh they don't like remembering that. They don't like remembering the "Racial jungle" comments, how that cracker eulogized a FUCKIN KLANSMAN. If you make people remember that, blueanon can't cudgel Dem votes out of the Black community half as easy.

If America hadn’t spent the last century destabilizing everything south of the Rio Grande for the crime of thinking they were sovereign nations there wouldn’t be a “flood” of economic and political refugees from central and South America.
Blowback’s a bitch
flood of migrants who lower wages for the working class
Nazi! Nazi! EDIT: Good one mods, got em literally while I was posting this.