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A proposed better calendar that would have made as much sense as converting to the metric system

https://www.mic.com/articles/139584/this-13-month-calendar-proposal-on-reddit-would-make-our-lives-so-much-better

EDIT: turns out that the idea is not so new ... it was called the "International Fixed Calendar" and it was first proposed in 1902
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar

In my country, the week starts on monday
- I think weeks start on monday everywhere except for one country..
- I think it's a US thing to start on Sunday 1
- Ahhhh forget it then .... junk the proposed calendar system
  Unless .............. we start the week on a Tuesday
- I hate apps starting on Sunday, but it kinda makes sense to start on sun-day rather than on moon-day.
- Your country is wrong. 😉
- This is how I also choose to live
Great if you birthday is always a Saturday!
Not great if your birthday is always a Monday 🙁
- I come from Ontario in Canada and I ride a motorcycle. I've had many friends invite me to the famous Friday the 13th motorcycle rally in Port Dover in southern Ontario. In our current calendar system, Friday 13th only occurs rarely, especially during the warm summer months, which is what makes it special.
  In the proposed calendar ..... every month has a Friday 13th!!!! They'd have the rally 13 times a year every year!!!
- I'm a Friday kid, sounds about right
What's stopping us from just switching to this calendar right now? How do I convert my birthday to this calendar? I'll switch this very second
- Trillions of dollars
- I like the suspense of the current calendar. This one is too square.
- Half year = 6 Months 2 Weeks
  Quarter year = 3 Months 1 Week
I prefer the way the Hobbits do it: 12 months of 30 days, then 5 (or 6) days straight of winter holiday/new year festivities. But I would totally get behind this calendar in a heartbeat, too.
The idea is even older: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar
Love this idea. What should the 13th month be named?
- The correct month name like all the rest should be.
  https://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/latin.htm
  Really though? Uncember just to really stab the heart of every latin linguist out there.
  I'm a fan of Nihilary myself. Creating a month from nothing.
  1th month, 2th month, 3th month, 4th month, 5th month, 6th month, 7th month, 8th month, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th months.
- Could we please rename the rest as well? Having september, october, november, december as 9, 10, 11 and 12 makes no sense at all.

https://metric-time.com/

This is the most succinct way I’ve heard metric time explained. Very easy to understand the conversion and the reasons to use it.
- UTC while abolishing time zones is the superior format anyway.
  2024-02-15T23:30:33Z
  Largest to smallest. The only other logical way is smallest to largest. But that gets annoying when filing systems are involved.
- Except that there are actually 1.44 standard minutes in a metric minute
  24*60/10/100=1.44
It doesn't explicitly say it, but that redefines the second to be 1/100,000th of a day.
Doing that would break everything.
That said, I wish speed limits were in m/s. It makes more sense to me.
- Miles or kilometers per hour makes sense in the context of travel, you can very easily estimate how long it's going to take to get somewhere.
- yeah, there was a point in time when we could have. Just now our standards are to ingrained
Not even 4am! I'm going back to bed.
Just leaving this here in case anyone is interested. A dozenal clock! Day (24h) divided to twelve parts divided to twelve parts, etc. https://clock.dozenal.ca/
This is bullshit.
Seconds are already metric no need to redefine them.
Furthermore, if we redefine seconds we would also need to redefine a lot of other units.
This would result in massive confusion and a lot of avoidable errors in science and engineering, similar to what is already happening in the us with their bullshit freedom units.
It is not even that much harder if you get used to it.
If 86.4ks are too much to count for you, you could instead resurrect the metric prefix myria- for 10⁴. So 1day = 8.64 myriaseconds. And instead of minutes, use hectoseconds.

And deci. What's wrong base 10? Why aren't you touching your decilitres.

It’s not the measurement system’s fault people like to fall down two notches and use hundreds of milliliters instead. The same applies to decimeters. Most people use meters and centimeters for some reason.
- At least in Sweden, decimeter and deciliter are very commonly used. They are rather convenient units of measurement.
- And megameters would be quite useful if we ever used them.
It strikes me that decagrams would be good for measuring flour
- That´s because it in fact is. In Austria dekagramm is a common unit, abbreviated dkg or dag. In shops it´s standard to buy and label cheese and sliced cold meats in dag and in Austrian recipe books stuff like flour, cornstarch, sugar, butter and fat are measured in dkg.
Deciliter is a common unit in cooking though...
I know that some countries do! I'm pretty sure they use dL in Norway in baking.
That's the beauty, you can use this unit, and most people will immediately understand.
Decilitres is commonly used worldwide....
Stop using litres, they are a fake metric!. A litre is a mili cubic meter anyway.

I'm sure the artist intended to be smart and use metric time as something silly.

The problem is he used regular time.

60 * 60 * 24=86400=>86.4 kseconds where k stands for 1000. Like kilo for 1000 grams. Kilometer for 1000 meters etc.

The comic doesn't make sense...

I cannot see what's wrong saying a day consists of 86.4 ks. It's a fact and it's mathematically correct.
- If we're redifining time, why do we have to keep the same unit size? Simply adjust the duration of a second to make exactly 100 ksecs per day.
No, it's correct, metric time is just using seconds for everything, you end up with minutes, hours, days,... as auxiliary units. And then there's decimal time, which tries to divide the day into 10 hours, the French tried to introduce that during the revolution.
- Are you talking about SI unites? I mean, sure, there is overlap but the metric system is what people use in everyday life and SI is a scientific system where you don't even use prefixes (like kilo) but just powers of 10. In no case to people use kiloseconds
- Yeah... That 10 hours thing made some heads spin....to the floor that's it.
That ... Is metric time. The si unit for time is seconds. So ...
- There's loads of comments mentioning this site https://metric-time.com/
  Thats brukt beyond kiloseconds and into something else entirely
- seconds, minutes, hours are usable units, days aren't

Why would metric time still use the same seconds? Surely it'd be a different unit that was a nice multiple of 10

Thr second is already a metric SI unit. A day happens to be 86.4 kiloseconds. I'm not sure why that is weird.
Redefining the second would be a lot of work for no real benefit.
Hours, days, weeks are not metric, you wouldn't really say kiloday or centiday.
- There was an attempt originally, 100 seconds a minute, 100 minutes an hour and 10 hours a day, but it never stuck
- We're looking at this the wrong way. The problem is the number of seconds not dividing neatly into the period of the day. You're right, adjusting the length of a second is impractical, so let's look at our other options here.
- Oh, so you are saying that overhauling a system that has been used for millennia in favor of one that is a bit more logical for niche cases isn't worth it on large scales?
60 is good because you can divide it by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30 which is convenient
- I'll switch to metric when we adopt dozenal numbers, and not a moment sooner
- Compared to 100 which can only be divided by 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50. Not too bad, but not as good.
- yeah, lets all start counting in base-60
  I'll start by counting to ten
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z α β γ δ ε ζ η θ ι κ λ μ ν ξ ο π ρ σ τ υ φ χ ψ ω ϟ 10
Exactly RuneScape ticks are where it's at, there are 100 ticks in a minute
- (Slaps clock) This baby can fit so many prayer flashes! 😎
deconds
- 😋 cute hahaha
Huh? What are you talking about? What would a second be a multiple of?
- Nanoseconds, milliseconds, picoseco….
- You could change the length of a second so a day is 100 kilo seconds for instance.
  Much like other imperial measurements the length of a second is arbitrary.
- "The second [...] is defined by taking the fixed numerical value of the caesium frequency, ΔνCs, the unperturbed ground-state hyperfine transition frequency of the caesium 133 atom, to be 9192631770 when expressed in the unit Hz, which is equal to s−1.[1]"

Not gonna lie.. i think i would like this unit of time measurement

We have 24 hours in a day because the people that came up with the sundial lived around the equator (always half a day off light) and counted in base 12. 12 light hours and 12 dark is our 24 hours. You can count base 12 by using your thumb to count the bones in your finger. 4 fingers with 3 bones each gives you 12.

It's also why we have 60 minutes. They counted with their fingers on one hand to 5, with the other to twelve so you get 60. Why not 144? You make mistakes easily when counting to 12 with both hands.

By now there have been many attempts to launch a different system for time keeping and calenders but it never took hold.

Also with 5*12 = 60, that divides 360 neatly so it made the math simpler for ancient astronomers
You can count base 12 by using your thumb to count the bones in your finger.
You can count to 1F on one hand without getting knuckles involved and 3FF on both, also without knuckles.

as a promoter of the kilofoot I about agree and am offended by this comic.

you might be interested in centipedes
they don't really have 100 feet, but at least their name is metric

That's a funny way to spell heximal
Binary supremacy!!!!!!!
I agree. More natural fractions and aligns better with time. We should change it to bsse-12.

You cannot really make all the time units a multiple of 10 to each other as a day, months and a year, for example, are defined by external factors.

You could perhaps change seconds so a day would be exactly 100k seconds, which would make seconds slightly shorter than they now are but that wouldn't really change the fact that a year is 365.25 days and that a month is either 27.32 or 29.53 days depending on how you measure it.

Let's first establish decimal time, then we can talk adding thrusters to Earth to adjust its rotation...
- I'd watch this skifi
A day is the spin of the Earth and a Year is the orbit of the Earth, but months are completely arbitrary because we (Western world) don't use Lunar cycles for months.
There's no reason we couldn't have 10 months.
- You could argue that years are also arbitrary.
  Yes, we follow orbital year and adjust our time to follow it, but the orbital year has meaning in anything except scientific world.
Except a second is also already defined by external factors so making it shorter actually messes up ALL other SI units/compound auxiliary units...
- Nice
The MS has a solution for that. Days, years, weeks… are not part of the system. They are understood and the conversions accepted, but that’s it.

This reminds me of swatch .beats.

I first learned of this from Phantasy Star Online
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time