tocopherol @ tocopherol @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I thought you were making a correction at first but this is a helpful comment for the metric folks, 31.16 feet is 9.5m 👍

I gave you the data, as they say "facts don't care about your feelings."

The trend has continued steadily since then, and furthermore,

Bier wrote in November that his work showed the Biden administration “has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/breaking-down-the-immigration-figures/

This is from 2024, the DHS spokesperson at the time:

“Under this Administration, the estimated annual apprehension rate has averaged 78%, identical to the rate of the prior Administration.”

The idea Biden opened the borders is thoroughly debunked. Like I said you're the one telling me a bunch of bullshit so it's on you to disprove reality, I don't care enough to spoonfeed you the facts.

This took 30 seconds to find

Visa overstays have outnumbered people who enter the country illegally at the Southern border every year since 2007, according to a report by the Center for Migration Studies. The report's authors estimate that the number of total visa overstays was 600,000 more than the total number of border crossers and that in 2014, visa overstays accounted for two-thirds of all new undocumented immigrants.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683662691/where-does-illegal-immigration-mostly-occur-heres-what-the-data-tell-us

This article has the most recent data I could find but if you look at the sources you can probably find better info. You're welcome to prove me wrong.

In 1944 would it be controversial for someone to chant "Death, death to the SS!"? If people can't see the genocide and see that military force against the genociding organization is necessary to stop it by now then they won't be 'brought to our side' by using a kinder chant. It's a type of civil disobedience, it brings more attention to the BBC and UK's complicity in the genocide.

You're free to go look at the statistics easily found, I'm not gonna do your homework for you. Were you at the border?

"Improper entry" through illegally crossing a border is a crime, but the majority of undocumented immigrants in the US don't enter that way. "Unlawful presence" after a visa expires or is denied receives civil penalties rather than criminal, meaning they can't lead to imprisonment but only fines or a court action like deportation.

I've always been anti-capitalist but in a Big Sean song he said "money is the greatest drug" and I hadn't really thought about it that simply, they really are just addicted to wealth and it warps the brain. The dynastic capitalist families have encouraged this delusion for generations, further entrenching their alternate worldview.

Actually it's a civil offense akin to a parking ticket which is separate from criminal charges.

You call yourself freedomadvocate yet you advocate for the destruction of freedom, interesting.

They already do say "Death to Arabs" in Israel and use all sorts of logic to justify their atrocities. And death to an ethnic group is a bit different than calling for the death of a terrorist organization.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

Israel is committing genocide in Gaza against the Palestinians during its ongoing invasion and bombing of the Gaza Strip as part of the Gaza war.[39][40][41] The acts of genocide described by experts and human rights organisations include large-scale killing, use of starvation as a weapon of war, destruction of civilian infrastructure, attacks on healthcare workers, and forced displacement. Various observers, including United Nations experts,[42] the UN Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories Francesca Albanese,[43] and Human Rights Watch have cited statements by senior Israeli officials that may indicate an "intent to destroy" Gaza's population in whole or in part, a necessary condition for the legal threshold of genocide to be met.[42][44][45]

As I said there is widespread agreement that Israel is commiting a genocide against the people in Gaza. There is no way for all people to agree on one objective reality or truth, but most people can see and agree that Israel is committing genocide and must be stopped.

If you disagree with that view of reality, you may as well argue with me that there is no moon or the stars are a projection.

Not my truth, the objective reality that can easily be seen of daily massacres of Gazans. No position was abandoned, it is both the relative and objective moral position to fight against the IDF and Zionism in general. And currently that requires violence as they are in a state of war and will kill those that oppose them. "DEATH TO THE IDF" is like a warcry, it's not supposed to be a rhetorical position, it's a call to inspire and motivate the resistance against Zionism and genocide.

I'm sure they would, why should I care? They will make any justification to further their genocide. People paying attention can see the truth. That is the point, you can say anything to justify actions but there is an objective reality. And in that reality, it is an act of kindness to fight the IDF.

As I said I'm a Buddhist, Buddhist philosophy would agree that it creates bad karma to kill. But this figure is seen as a bodhisattva, or a form of the Buddha:

Righteous indignation, fury in the face of injustice is a form of compassion. This is distinct from hatred. Killing should be avoided, but there are costs to being calm in the face of violence. In this historical moment it would cause more death and suffering to allow the IDF to continue unopposed. Killing is not a solution, it is a pragmatic action to take if no other is available, and I agree it should be the ultimate last resort.

You are denying genocide by ignoring the objective evidence, widespread and seen by millions, of on-going atrocities and claiming I'm fabricating justification. Personally I don't know how such a person could live with themself in light of what we know.

Anything you say is irrelevent when you 'both-sides' this issue. The IDF is engaged in genocide. There is no comparison that can be made from that to the arguments in favor of killing Palestinians. To fight the IDF would be an act done out of love and defense for the children and other innocent people being killed by them. Killing can be hateful, but in this instance it is necessary to stop the genocide. Even if it was hateful it would be the justified and moral action to take. The IDF is not going to stop voluntarily, just as the Nazis didn't stop until they lost the war.

Actually you first insinuated I was insecure because my views were similar to the IDF, which was my first hint you were trolling but I humored you because I don't like to assume anything. But dang do you know your buzzwords well while saying nothing at all.

No, the personal attacks, refusing to answer questions, derailing the discussion, assuming bad faith, withholding your true viewpoint (aka bad faith argument). These are all troll behaviors, if not intentionally being an asshole you are at the least communicating very poorly. You made a comment you knew to be inflammatory and continue to berate and derail people trying to actually discuss your point.