TimmyDeanSausage @ timmy_dean_sausage @lemmy.world

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By voting for Trump, you have insured the Palestinians are much worse off. At least with Harris there would've been a possibility of the US eventually condemning the genocide. Now we have the Trump admin cheering it on. So, how did voting the way you did help the Palestinian people?

I blame the DNC for constantly shooting themselves in both feet, especially when it comes to their insistence on running sham primaries. I blame the neoliberals in both parties for creating the propaganda and legal bribery industries that shifted the Overton window so far right in this country. I blame voters like you, for not being able to see the forest for the trees when the options we're given are more neoliberalism, or blatant fascism. You chose now, of all times, to put your foot down with the DNC, because that's what the bandwagon was doing. Now you think your rage at the system justifies a decision, that you made, that helped bring us outright fascism. Meanwhile, minorities like me get to sit here wondering why so many leftists were willing to sacrifice us on the alter of idealogical purity. If you were actually concerned about Palestinians, you would've voted for the option that had potential to ease their suffering. In other words, there would've been far more political pressure on Harris to do something about the genocide. Instead, we got Trump talking about "wiping it clean" for new development. If you want to continue to justify implicitly voting for Trump, by abstaining, then please explain how Trump is better for Palestine than Harris. That was your primary motivation for not voting after all, right?

.... There's an icon for him on the map....

How so?

How do you feel about motorcycles?

They are receiving plenty of blame. In the mean time, we get to watch Trump destroy our country, cheer on the genocide in Gaza, and openly flirt with invading our allies. All thanks to the morons that bought into propaganda telling them not to vote.

So... You claim to understand the difference between liberals and leftists, and you think liberals worship Bernie? Bernie has spent his life fighting against liberalism. Why would liberals worship him?

My bad. I was assuming that you were confusing liberals with leftists. So, which politicians do liberals worship?

How so? Which politicians do leftists worship?

Oh man, I hope you had hearing protection..

That's certainly what your propaganda would like you to think. In reality, most of us are sick of our elected politicians and the political theatre. We don't worship politicians the way people on the right do.

Just tell them kids in China have negative dolls. That will make them feel better!

The rich have that option.

Primary every dem who doesn't support ranked-choice-style voting, then primary every future dem that doesn't work to implement ranked-choice-style voting. Until we abolish the two party system, the choice will always be between a "ruling class" boot licker vs. a worse "ruling class" boot licker.

These people really are petulant children in adults bodies. If they get any amount of pushback on something, that's the new thing they're going to focus on. Thank you "conservatives" for giving us "leadership" that looks like this.

I came here to say this, but you said it perfectly. As an autistic person, I don't want to be "cured".. I like the way I am and I tend to like other autistic people too. Most of us are genuine, to a fault, and I'll take that over an intrinsic understanding of weird/unnecessary neuro-typical social games any day.

Far-right people really don't understand what peer review is..

No, one doesn't have to entertain any such notion. And, one speaking like a monk doesn't make one sound mysterious or intelligent...

What you're essentially saying is, we should let something terrible continue to happen, causing many real people (often children) to actually die, because some people are paranoid about something that isn't happening.. In reality, government's need their civilians. Especially in late-stage capitalist societies were civilians act as value generators or cannon fodder for the ruling class. The more people they have to feed into their profit machines, the better.

There are many counter arguments to the sentiment you shared that show how silly your stance is. I won't waste my time writing all of them because I think you're too steeped in your own soup to consider anything that counters what you already believe.

As an American, the craziest thing about that story is that Australia changed their gun laws after that happened. Imagine a government taking reasonable action to save lives.. Wild.

Well yes, there are outliers. My grandma was one of them. She participated in countless protests throughout her life, starting with the civil rights movements in the 60's, and never stopped. She was part of the group that stopped the keystone pipeline from stealing people's land in Texas. She was an amazing woman, may she RIP.

My point is, there wasn't enough like her among boomers. There were, of course, plenty of boomers that didn't have it easy. I too was raised in poverty and have known boomers who struggled. But, by and far, the boomers believed in the "American dream", and even the ones who were struggling believed things could turn around for them eventually. The majority of them bought into or allowed reaganomics, propaganda, and blatant emperialism to thrive under their watch.

The difference I'm seeing in people below the age of 40 is that we talk politics openly, and we know who the bad guys are (the billionaires and their lackeys). We know that the billionaire's, and their corporations, have been extracting our wealth for decades, that healthcare and higher education are scams, that we can't trust anything the establishment media says. Even the younger right wing people know this stuff, the've just bought into the propaganda channels on TikTok and YouTube. But, I think the demographics have truly shifted in that the amount of people buying into the propaganda is no longer the majority. Young people actually are waking up, which is why we're seeing all of these truth-to-power movements like BLM, quiet quitting, and "cancel culture". These movements are growing despite major resistance from the establishment. Mostly because, those of us below 40 feel the effects of the status quo the hardest. They've extracted so much from us that we have nothing left to lose. We just need the older generations to fucking listen for a change, and stop fighting us at the polls every time. And we need young people to realize they can work around their work schedules with early voting. I've spent much of my adult life working 60 to 80 hour work weeks and I've voted in every federal and local election of the past decade. There's really no excuse to not properly educate yourself on current politics and vote. Congress.gov and cspan are great resources for unfiltered information. Use them!

Sorry for the rant, OP, that last bit wasn't directed at you. xD