Why don't you just call me the R word or some other slur directly at this point? lmao
This is clearly unproductive. You also fail to acknowledge or respond to anything else I've said. I guess I'm just too stupid to understand.
You claimed not to use reddit but are using a reddit mirroring service.
I'm using links that also appear on reddit reposted by a bot to a different service that is not reddit.
Whether or not you have been on reddit in years has nothing to do with the validity of his earlier point concerning the importance of keeping boards tied to the topic of intended discussion.
They're the one who focused in on that. I was simply saying that I can't relate to their experience with Reddit before Lemmy.
Which of course were tied to reddit because reddit was the predecessor of this site…
And?
Is it really that hard to read?
I suppose it must be. Would you like to insult me more?
Wherever you got that 500k number from, get rid of that as a source. It is wrong by several orders of magnitude. Since 2010 it’s 4,882.
My mistake, I was listing numbers off the top of my head and was admittedly overzealous, as happens in online discourse, and yes it was by multiple orders of magnitude. I will concede on this. The human toll for Palestine from 2008 through 2020 was 5,600 and 115,000 injured, while for Israel the death toll was 250 with 5,600 injured.^[https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank/]
The only ethnic cleansing in Gaza was when all Jews were removed in 2005. It is not being ethnically cleansed of Gazans. I am not “justifying ethnic cleansing” in talking about the role Palestinian militants play in these deaths.
Israel has for years refused to honor their obligations to respect the human rights of Palestinians, including their right to freedom of movement through occupied territory and their right to enter and leave their own country.[https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-prison-15] The Gaza strip is the world's largest open-air prison, due to Israel's blockade. It's one of the most densely populated areas of the world, low life expectency with a median age of 18 years, and abysmal living standards. There's a lack of access to education and medical treatment due to years of Israel bombing schools and hospitals. Israel has now cut off this nation from access to water, food, fuel and electricity, which due to aforementioned blockade, largely comes from Israel.[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/11/what-is-gaza-strip-the-besieged-palestinian-enclave-under-israeli-assault]
It is still true that if Palestine lays down their weapons, there will be no more war
History shows otherwise. Perhaps there will be no more soldiers on the ground, but Palestine will continue to be denied their basic human rights, freedom of movement, sovereignty, education, and medical access. This is known because it was true before Hamas existed, and it is the reason Hamas has the power they do.
So back to my question to you, how do you propose to contain Hamas without harming civilians?
There are no easy solutions. Palestinians have been fighting oppression by killing civilians. Israel has been countering by killing civilians and further worsening conditions in occupied territories, which in turn makes Palestinians fight the increased oppression by killing more civilians.
Now, Hamas managed to break through the border, and kill several hundred Israeli civilians and take hostage of several hundred more. These are also real lives that matter, and I'm not going to downplay that at all.
But we're currently on a path towards completely destroying every life that's held on in occupied Palestinian territory. The solutions Netanyahu's far-right government will come to is poised to be "The Final Solution". There will be diplomacy. I'm not sure there's even room for diplomacy. But there needs to be another way.
So tell me, if you're not justifying the complete slaughter of all Palestinians in the region, what are you arguing for? If you're not advocating ethnic cleansing, what is it you're advocating for?
I'm not arguing that I have all the answers, I'm arguing that the answer the world's agreed upon is the wrong one.
That’s not justifying or excusing their deaths at all. I am recognising the reality on the ground which must be dealt with.
If you're defending those committing ethnic cleansing in front of you, you are justifying and excusing those deaths. If not to justify, what purpose is there to defend? Why wouldn't you at least keep quiet so you can play the role of a complicit bystander, rather than speak up and become an avid advocate?
I'm fully aware of this. I'm trying to figure out what the point they're attempting to make is in the first place. It'd be difficult for me to concede if the point is incomprehensible to me.
Huh it works on lemm.ee, lemmy.ca, and even the canonical instance .ml. But not on bookwormstory.social.
I wonder why that would be? But also, I'm not really worried. Maybe 0.19.0 will fix whatever's broken.
I agree in relevance, but it's more "noteworthy" by measure of the poster. If Silicon Valley had a torrential storm that could materially impact these services, it would also belong in the !technology@lemmy.world community. I suggest you compare how strongly related other posts in this community are to technology, for reference.
And we've seen the over 500k Palestinians that have been killed by Israel since 2010 due to Israeli occupation. You may not want to accept it, but you're just justifying ethnic cleansing of a land this is very successfully being ethnically cleansed. And now the 2.4 million who remain are going to pay in blood for crimes they didn't commit. Is this what you want? Is this what you believe is deserved?
I'll switch to Linux the moment Playnite gets a native working port on Linux and not a moment sooner. All my laptops run some flavour of Linux, but my gaming... I need playnite, it's just so nice to use.
Why don't you just call me the R word or some other slur directly at this point? lmao
This is clearly unproductive. You also fail to acknowledge or respond to anything else I've said. I guess I'm just too stupid to understand.