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  • Yeah and I expect it from those companies. I guess I was naive enough to think Brave would be better than this.

    But then I didn't know about Eich's homophobia, antivaxx beliefs and basic awfulness either (as mentioned in the link u/Xaeris mentions.)

  • NO WE AIN'T GUNNA FUCKIN DO STONEHENGE!

  • Its decentralized nature isn't due to censorship, or a lack of it, but its structure. Of course there's going to be some degree of censorship because instances all have individual rules which, if you break, you'll be penalized for which can take the form of removal of content.

    The only way to have total free speech is create your own instance which is a total free for all but then you'll attract the worst sort of people and your instance will end up defederated by instance owners who don't want content from literal Nazis federated to their instances.

  • I don't like the idea of .world federating with Threads. I want no part of anything Meta related intruding into this space for various reasons.

    However, the decision to rests with each instance owner and them alone. The admin of .world has elected to adopt a wait and see approach. I think that's a mistake but it is their decision.

    What you're asking is absolutely none of your business, nor mine. .world has provided, in the very blog post you provided a (totally superfluous) screenie of outlined the finances for June for .world - something I don't believe they're required to do but did anyway.

    You either accept these things or you move on to another instance. Descending into a fairly squalid gaucherie and requesting information that is none of your business is beyond the limits of reasonable expectation. This is not Musk or Zuckerberg or Bezos or Branson or some other mega-rich oxygen thief, this is an ordinary person like you and I, providing a free of charge service with no privacy invading scripts, no ads, no mental health destroying algo or similar activities. Whilst I believe a wait and see approach is flawed when it comes to Meta, due to what they are, I don't extend that same approach to individual people who as far as I know have done nothing whatsoever to earn distrust. Even if they attended the NDA controlled meeting with Meta that is still no evidence of bad faith. To be honest, I probably would've done the same if only because I would be intensely curious as to what they had to say.

    Dial this back a bit, please. You're in no position to request such information and to do so is pretty classless.

  • No, they wouldn't. They'd just own some servers. And in the meantime, other instances would appear. To own the fediverse you'd have to completely control every web server in existence, halt production on new web servers and somehow find a way to make open source software licenses invalid, buy then patent, then remove all the existing fediverse software types, somehow repeal ActivityPub as a standard and then make it all illegal across the entire world.

  • "any big tech company can just buy the entire fediverse if they want to"

    They literally can't.

  • Call your friend a cunt in America: people lose their shit.

    Call your friend a cunt in the UK or Aussieland: Everyone laughs.

    Culture is sometimes a very nuanced thing.

  • What I don’t get at the moment is how a Lemmy community would look like on Mastodon.

    I speak under correction here but I believe if a Mastodon user follows a Lemmy Community, the titles of new posts to that Community show in their Mastodon timeline.

  • In a new tab go to 'about:preferences#privacy' then in the 'Cookies And Site Data' section, click the Manage Data button then select your Home instance from the box, click 'remove selected', then 'save changes'.

  • Not yet.

  • Two different types of software - Lemmy is a link aggregator like reddit, Mastodon is a microblogging service like twitter.

    But, underpinning each of them (and various other types of software too) is something called ActivityPub. This is a protocol - i.e. its a method of passing information from one place to another. Just like SMTP is a protocol for passing emails and FTP is a protocol for transferring files.

    So just like GMail uses SMTP to send/receive email, so does Hotmail or Yahoo etc etc. And just as Lemmy uses ActivityPub, so does Mastodon.

    What this means - in theory - is that content can travel between any piece of software that is underpinned by ActivityPub. And in fact, this already happens. Mastodon users see Lemmy communities (e.g. c/fediverse) as just another user. So they can follow Communities and Post to them. Lemmy can't do that at the moment because it is nowhere near as mature a product as Mastodon.

    The other issue (as has already been mentioned) is that Lemmy and Mastodon (and PixelFed, PeerTube etc) all have different types of content. Lemmy content usually has a much greater word count per post for example. It's like posting a WordPress blog post to Twitter.

    These issues will get resolved with time, the Fediverse itself is relatively new. Lemmy is very new.

  • It's possible but it'd be a substantial time and cost investment on their part.

  • [insert country name] people, what's one thing you hate about [insert other country name]?

  • "shows you literally have zero clue what React is"

    To develop stuff my friend. How did you not grasp that?

    " surprise! GitHub uses React!"

    Uh-huh and as I said, I'm sure I've used React occasionally I just tend to avoid it if possible.

    "I think you need to take a history lesson on the web. I gave multiple examples of tech Facebook has backed, and yet EEE hasn’t happened to any of them."

    And yet, some it has. You seem unable to parse that.

    "Also I noticed you’re avoiding the “EU will come down on Facebook if they get out of line” side of my argument. Also curious."

    Not quite what you said. You said the EU will penalise Meta if they don't federate. All they have to do to avoid that is create a protocol that ensures they can technically achieve that, doesn't have to be the actual ActivityPub protocol. That's literally how EEE works. I avoided that so much I only mentioned it twice before.

    'oh, wait, you probably don’t use Google) '

    True, I don't. I use Whoogle. Open source, privacy respecting front end - I'd advise you check it out but you'd probably want to buy it because you think thats how open source software gets better.

    'You probably didn’t know Vue was created by a Google engineer and Google uses it internally'

    No, I do know all that. Not really sure what difference any of that makes though.

    'Not to mention you say you never used the Reddit app. I never said anything about the Reddit app. I was talking about the Reddit website. '

    Yep, I use the site. I check out the sub I mod using an open source, privacy respecting front end. If there's anything untoward, I login via the site in a Firefox containerised tab with UBO enabled.

    'But you’ve made multiple factual inaccuracies'

    Go right ahead and quote them.

    'you never source anything you say, you just constantly pout like the world is ending and try to force everyone else to do things your way.'

    Well, sorry about all the pouting and I'm sorry to disappoint but I have no interest in forcing anyone to do anything. I say my piece, people can take it or leave it.

    ' I suggest you stop spreading yours as factual,'

    What have I stated as being factual that isn't factual? Are you sure you're not mixing up 'having an opinion on what might happen' with 'claiming something as fact'?

    '(And for the record, I despise Elon.)'

    Sorry Zuck, didn't realise it was you.

  • I don't use PayPal, no. I don't use Slack or Teams. I don't use the Reddit app, I don't use Twitter, I don't use Spotify etc etc etc....really not sure whats difficult for you to grasp about any of that but feel free to doubt whatever you like. I know exactly what react is. I prefer to use vue myself. I use privacy respecting front ends for places like Wikipedia etc. I'm sure I've occasionally used something that's powered by React but I try and avoid shitware generally.

    You need to re-read what I wrote about EEE because you still don't understand it. You also need to look into their history.

    'as much as I don't like capitalism' uh-huh, its obvious you loathe capitalism my friend, in the same way rampant closeted homophobes hate gay men.

    Your point about Linux is facile and shows little to no understanding of the history of its development or why its 'advertising' is the way it is. Its the same reason you keep banging on about 'embrace the corporations!' - you just can't fathom the idea of creating something out of love and enjoyment for people to use freely. That's not success to you. Success isn't success until it experiences uncontrolled growth, complete with marketing drives and shareholder options.

    We have different viewpoints Elon. Move on.

  • Well, I don't use any of those apps you just listed because, like Meta, they're all privacy invading nightmares. And yet here I am using 'the modern web'. If you genuinely believe they have a solid record when it comes to web tech then - well, you're entitled to that opinion, but I don't share it. I think they have an awful record, in that their tech works, but it doesn't result in products that make the web better.

    It's hardly baseless FUD to suggest Meta might utilise EEE as a growth mechanism when they've actually participated in doing exactly that in the past.

    And the reason Threads isn't available in the EU is partly the reason you suggest but also in large part because of data privacy concerns. The EU knows full well that's Meta's business model. Hoover up peoples personal data and sell it on.

    You also seem to be struggling with what EEE actually means. The 'extend' part of that entails rolling out a modified, non-standard version of the protocol which better serves their interests but is still technically able to federate with other systems. The 'extinguish' part is the years-later death of the original protocol.

    “this isn’t a place for normies, normies go home!!!” - who suggested that? What I actually said was pretty much the opposite of that. I'd love to see open protocol based apps become standard. You, on the other hand, seem to want tighter and tighter ties between corporations and standards. That's the kind of thinking the led to this absolute shit-show of data harvesting companies and ad-stuffed apps that's currently the norm.

    Not wanting to embrace a 'growth at all costs, commercialism is our saviour' attitude is not the same as saying 'normies go home'.