leftytighty @ leftytighty @slrpnk.net

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A lot of people in the global south might say they don't want it to adhere to the "liberal world order"

You're speaking from a position of privilege, and suggesting that you should keep your privilege

And, as you no doubt already know, that merger has a name. But maybe it's Roman inspired....

It's just a Roman thing relax guys

We lost more valuable stuff leaving them in charge: manufacturing capacity.

Capital flight is perfect, they can't take the means of production with them. It's an empty threat.

They've taken more away just being allowed to stay here. Let them flee, just means less time needed sharpening the guillotine blades when we're fed up.

it can be expected and even understandable to some degree but that doesn't mean it needs to be accepted and normalized. It's wrong, objectively. Emotion needs to be put aside when deciding policy and action.

We can understand hate without giving in to it

Although you have the start of a point here all you've done is stereotype a class of people. Hate people that abuse welfare, whether immigrant or not.

I hate welfare abusers -> some immigrants are welfare abusers -> I hate immigrants as a class of person

That's not rational

The political binary has rotted your brain. There's a whole spectrum outside of red and blue if you care to look

different corporations

which instance, if you don't mind sharing? I'm not looking to move, but it's good to understand the landscape.

It's not about the sweets and cigarettes it's just about the wealth acquisition. Same then as it is now. Companies are still using slave and otherwise coerced labor to extract all kinds of wealth from foreign countries.

If any countries try to take control over their own economy by closing it to Western "investment" they get wrecked by the world bank and invaded or sanctioned by the US and/or its allies.

Global capitalism is neo-colonialism.

oh competely agreed, I'm just pointing out the dishonest framing by politicians and pundits

but how will we pay for <anything that's not increased military spending>???

talk about social services and taxes are like a bake sale, talk about funding war and it's what you describe

The firetrucks were allowed through but Haitian immigrants ate them!

You expect too much from these people, and an increasing share of them aren't genuine people at all.

Government spending doesn't work like your bank account. Instead of just letting banks invent money through fractional reserve banking the government can pay for these kinds of essential services with new money. Taxation isn't like having a bake sale so you can afford to buy things, it's one way for money to be drawn out of the economy so that inflation is controlled.

Yes some taxes raise money proportional to some other spending and are ear-marked for that, but notice how no new taxes had to be introduced to give tens of billions to Ukraine and Israel?

The government can pay for public services.

maybe if someone tells you not to think for yourself now you'll think for yourself a bit

that solves the paywall issue but the poor guy still can't read

There's a difference between punching up and punching down, there's a difference between critique of the ruling class that's doing the oppressing and the marginalized classes that are being oppressed. The fact that there is nuance doesn't mean that no true statements can be made.

You're not going to change your mind and I don't care what you think, but believe it or not your kneejerk elementary school level reasoning isn't the gotcha you think it is.... People study, philosophize, and debate these things all the time, and surprisingly the prevailing argument isn't that we need to have some kind of libertarian shithole existence.

You could try educating yourself about these topics, but SOMEHOW I think you're more likely to be on the side trying to ban these topics from schools.

That's not how proof works. it's not up to you to disprove every claim someone makes or else accept it as true, it's up to them to prove their claims.