krashmo @ krashmo @lemmy.world

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What is looking like more of an idiot than he already does going to accomplish? He's the most idiotic politician in living memory, by far, and there are some absolutely colossal morons on that list. The people who haven't figured that out are never going to. They will be praising him until the day they die.

Good for him. I'm staying here. Not because I have to. In fact, there are several relatively easy paths available to me if I wanted to leave. I'm staying because I refuse to let these fascist fucks have my country. Leaving is the easy personal solution but it doesn't help anybody else.

The person you're taking to online has a vested interest in defending the position they put forth. Someone reading your response who initially agrees with the person you're talking to does not have a defensive attitude to the same degree. Your arguments will be much more successful with the observer than with the other participant. You will probably never know if you had an impact on the observer. That's what you should be aiming for though.

You don't see how a comment about military service being generally unappealing relates to your comment about something making military service less appealing to women specifically?

Military service is already pretty unappealing to any empathetic human being imo

I hope you don't genuinely expect that to happen

So do I, but this problem is much bigger than one man. He could not do what he's doing without support from many rich donors and his party (which in turn relies on the support of the 30% of the country that reliably votes for them). Trump and many of his voters may be idiots but most of those other people are not, at least not in the intellectual sense of the word. They are making a calculated choice to enable fascism because they think it's better for them personally than democracy. That belief and it's associated threat to our country isn't going away when Trump dies. In fact, it might get much worse if they can find someone who can advance that agenda without being a bumbling fool most of the time.

You can lock other file formats too though

PDF is a pointless file format that should not exist. Come at me.

Fuck me I'm not ready for that. You expect it from the old people but I might have to leave the room if a young person asked me something like that.

What is that thing in the sky? It looks like a huge...

JOHNSON!

Yes sir?

Not these globalists though, it's the (((globalists))) they're afraid of.

I'm pretty sure that's the "secret" notation for Jews these days but I don't run in those circles so I could be wrong about that.

I have serious doubts that fear of reprisal or consequence from voters is a serious motivating factor for just about any Republican in Congress. Their voters have made it abundantly clear that they will never consider voting for a candidate from a different party. Until that changes, and of course assuming that elections still matter, then this is all just noise from the handful of Republicans left in relatively competitive districts.

It must be nice to have the capacity to care about everything, everywhere, all the time. That sounds like the height of privilege.

They might have some things to say about that if they could read

Yeah well, that's pretty much where the whole world is at right now. It's easier to lie than explain the truth

That's fair. I suppose a better wording would have been "let people articulate their weird positions in their own words". I think that's a good thing in conceptual form. However, as you noted, it doesn't really work if you aren't equipped to push back and make them address the counter arguments. That's where Joe is lacking. He's good at getting people talking and asking layman's questions but that's as deep as he can go. He needs to book the guys who can give the rebuttals either on the same show or immediately after.

I'm conflicted about Joe Rogan, or at least the concept he had at the start. Clearly he's fallen down the right-wing rabbit hole but the original intent he had of letting people defend their weird positions is a good one imo. One could argue that the reason the right-wing funnel exists is because there isn't really space to talk about some of those things on the left.

For example, it's not crazy to ask questions about vaccines and how they work. However, when people do that those who are educated on the topic will largely assume ill intent by default and treat the people asking questions as if they're stupid or malicious. There's some good reasons for that but such an approach is pretty alienating for those who are genuinely seeking information. That leads at least a portion of those people to listen to more right leaning information because they feel like that is the only group taking them seriously.

We need to do better at meeting people where they are instead of assuming they are trying to spread misinformation. Yes it's true that all the information you need to develop an informed opinion about the vast majority of topics is available on the internet, but finding and understanding that information does take skills and time that not everyone has. In order to understand why a statement or belief is incorrect or misinformed you have to create a space in which it can be discussed without fear and shame driving people away.

Based on the limited amount of his older podcasts that I've been exposed to, I do think that Joe genuinely tried to do that, he's just not particularly well equipped to handle that kind of environment. Over time he fell victim to the same kind of radicalization that he was intending to subvert by letting people share their actual thoughts instead of assuming he already knew what they were going to say.

I don't know that I would say "as intended" but it is better than live TV, especially in the educational department. Neil Degrasse Tyson's yt channel is better than anything on the discovery channel these days. Countless podcasts are better than anything on the history channel. I don't think they even try to do history anymore. They just air pawn stars reruns 24/7.

Are they wrong?