chaogomu @ chaogomu @kbin.social

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Did you ever wonder why the population of Gaza is majority children?

Do note that the people of Gaza have been under a complete border lockdown for the last 17 years. Nothing enters or exists without the IDF okay. Including money for Hamas.

Even before the current genocide, 40% of Gazan households experienced extreme food insecurity.

Look at the original comment in this particular thread, It calls 20k deaths rookie numbers compared to the British atrocities.

Note how it's talking about Britton, and by extension Canada's past, and making the observation that Canada's current reluctance to face the reality of a (friendly) country's ongoing genocide is because Canada would have to face up to their own history of genocide, both when they were part of the Empire, and for decades afterward.

My bad, I try not to pay attention to details about her or the other horrible people like her. Some still bleeds through, just to tell me that she's still a horrible person.

Take it from someone who was paying attention at the time. As bloody and horrific as it was, the fighting in Mosul was fucking laser guided precision compared to what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Israel is using massive bombs in areas that it tells refugees are safe. They bomb refugee camps and convoys. As in, directly targeting them, with bombs designed to cause as much collateral damage as possible.

And remember, the refugees are only camped in those places and taking those routes because Israel said they would be safe.

As to the "not being fair" comparing the dead children in different wars, remember that Total deaths of children in Iraq, for the entire 14 years of the conflict with ISIS, were less than died in Gaza in a single month.

That's what you don't seem to understand. That's why we can easily call this a genocide in motion.

Add in comments by Israeli officials about "voluntary resettlement" in other countries.

It's pure genocide. They're literally saying "leave your home or die, surrender your land and property on the way out". It's exactly what the Germans said to Jews in the lead up to the Holocaust.

And is also a granny. Her teen daughter had a kid.

He smoked pot on Joe Rogan's show.

He doesn't seem like the sort of person who can have the self-control to stop there. He's try uppers and downers and anything else to make himself feel good now that people are calling him out on his bullshit.

The dude was on top of the fucking world in February 2018 when he launched his car into orbit. In July of that year, he called a guy a pedo because the guy said Elon's toy submarine idea was worse than useless.

If he had kept his dumb mouth shut, we would all still mostly believe in Elon's bullshit myth.

Instead, it's mostly common knowledge that Elon is a narcissistic man baby, and has been for his entire life.

He would rather we didn't know about the emerald mine, but everyone knows. We know he bought his way to every success he's ever had, and that he has zero natural talent.

And that has to drive him mad. So he does drugs and plays video games to escape from reality. A reality where he isn't loved, and is actually viewed as the prime example of the problem with allowing billionaires to exist at all.

Okay, city fighting is messy...

Except the second item on the list,

https://edition.cnn.com/gaza-israel-big-bombs

Israel is using 2000lbs bombs in Gaza, using hundreds of them. These are not, in any way, targeted strikes. They kill civilians by the dozens.

In 20 years of war, the US only ever used 500lbs bombs in urban environments. Even that was often barbaric in the amount of collateral damage caused.

Also, are you calling the fucking Battle of Mosula frozen conflict?

That was some of the bloodiest fighting in the entire war, all of it urban. There were fewer children killed in the entire 9 months than there have been killed in 3 in Gaza. And not by a small amount.

It's slightly more complicated than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CommonwealthofNations

And also, the Residential Schools were 100% Canadian.

Not that Canada was the only country to have them, no. I mean, the fault for what happened in the Canadian ones was 100% on Canada. They enforced the system with fucking Mounties, and kept those torture houses going until 1997.

Well, first of all is the idea that this level of destruction is in any way normal in war.

Take a look at this chart here. Those date ranges in the chart have some of the bloodiest conflict in each war, and yet on any given day only a handful of children would die.

Israel is killing an average of almost 150 children per day.

That's why we're calling it a genocide.

What face is on Canadian money?

Also, don't look up the Canadian residential schools if you're squeamish.

You are obsessed with an apology that you will never get.

I've not directly insulted you, but have repeatedly insulted your narrow ideas of governance, but if that's all you are, then you might need hobbies.

Squatters and farmers, both are dependent on the larger societies around them, even if they outwardly claim otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, squatting is cool as fuck, but even when sticking it to the man, you're still dependent on his world.

Hell, Exarcheia even goes against your own picture of a perfect society, they used a form of direct democracy with actual voting on policy.

Policy that was enforced throughout the camps.

Circling back to farmers, again, you hit that 150-person limit on community size without some form of policy abstraction. i.e. some form, any form, of governance and policy.

House cats don't recognize their owners ruling over them, but they're 100% dependent regardless.

And that's what you remind me of the most, a house cat who has never eaten anything except the food put into your bowl, but completely convinced that you're the best hunter in the world, not understanding anything about where the food comes from or how any of it actually works.

And you'll not get them, because your arguments so far have been stupid. Do better.

You have fairly thin skin. Although the second was closer to an actual insult than the first. The first was calling your argument stupid. As in, it is, me telling you to do better.

The second was saying that I feel like I'm arguing with someone whose arguments so far are akin to believing in Santa Claus. Closer to an actual insult, but still not making it personal or actually attacking you.

Two that you claim rule by consensus, but two places that, in fact, do not.

Both places have actual national governments and hold actual elections.

And I'll not do that.

Although I do sort of feel like I'm arguing with a child obsessed with Santa Claus while I'm pointing out that the North Pole is fucking melting.

I've been very upfront about the 150 number. You've just been too caught up in your make believe world of nonsense to notice.

Greece and Madagascar are both places with actual governments...

That doesn't help your brain-dead arguments at all. And again, the 150 people mark is due to the very structure of your brain. It cannot handle anything more than 150 relationships.

That's you, me, and every living human on the planet. 150 is the mean maximum number of social relationships that anyone can have.

To get around this maximum number of relationships and still get things done, we as a species invented organization and governance.

If you try to run a community without taking this physiological limitation into account, your community will fail. Sometimes to bears.

The response is, go sit at the little table, the adults are talking.