chaogomu @ chaogomu @kbin.social

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Name some that had communities of more than 150 people. I'll wait because you cannot.

Again, you cannot have anything like an anarchist paradise because there are too many people. Full stop.

Tiny communities who separate themselves away from everyday society can sort of do it, but they either have to go to extreme lengths to not integrate or they are completely dependent on the larger society. Just like house cats, who wouldn't know what a mouse is if one crawled across their nose.

All because of Dunbar's number and our brains not being able to maintain anything like a community larger than about 150 people. And that's with roughly 40% of a given person's social energy actively devoted to maintaining those 150 relationships.

Saying that you'll only accept that sort of "governance" is exactly like saying that you'll only accept Bigfoot as president. The response to both are the exact same.

The origins of the word libertarian were actually closest to being anarchist. But that shit doesn't work.

The whole, no government just neighbors who talk to each other sounds great on paper, but fails the second the community has more than about 150 people.

There's a reason why Amish and Mennonite communities formally split at 150 people. Because our brains cannot handle it.

Ah, a libertarian house cat.

That always ends.

Small groups. Not large nations.

That's the key difference. A tiny group of people can reach consensus, a large group literally cannot. Not when electing a representative, or even setting policy through direct voting.

So unanimous consensus? As in, something akin to expecting the tooth fairy to come wipe for you? There's no such system.

The closest thing is called Approval, and even with that system, there will be people who go away unhappy. Just far fewer of them than under any other voting system,

Perfect consensus only happen if there are dozens or even hundreds of people running for office, and only then if the voters have perfect knowledge of every candidate.

Do you mean something like Approval?

https://electowiki.org/wiki/Greatestpossibleconsensuswinner

Approval voting guarantees the election of greatest possible consensus winners, when it ask voters "which alternatives do you consent to?"

Approval would vastly improve things, but has some drawbacks. Score is like Approval, but a bit more so, and then STAR takes Score and adds to it again to be an even better system.

The systems above all break two party dominance, or rather they make it impossible to enforce two party dominance. Ordinal systems on the other hand, all fall victim to Arrow's theorem, and thus reinforce two-party dominance.

They way to fix things is voting reform. But it can't be just any reform.

We have to ditch Ordinal voting systems. Every single one of them leads to some degree of two party dominance, with voters having to prioritize strategy over their own needs, because not doing so means they will be actively punished.

Cardinal systems are the only way to escape. Strategic voting becomes less necessary and less impactful.

My current favorite system is STAR. It takes all the great ideas of the best cardinal voting system (Score) and adds in an automatic runoff that greatly reduces the impact of clone candidate attacks.

I don't know.

This one is maybe a better representation of his talent. Or any of his other original songs. He's released a lot of them the last 7 or so years. He also has a bunch of tour dates in England, some of them are already sold out.

Yup, kbin for the win.

Just wish it had a mobile app...

I mean, not really?

Harlan Carter was head of the border patrol under Eisenhower (and was an unrepentant racist murderer).

He joined the NRA while it was still a sports shooting organization, and got sidelined and sort of forced out, so he paid for a bunch of people to attend the 1968 conference, and used those people to vote and change the organization leadership to himself (and his gun manufacturer backers).

Reagan had nothing to do with it. He was governor of California at the time.

I just played through it.

It's about 5 hours of content. The puzzles are interesting and mostly new.

If you own Portal 2, the mod is free to play.

Not since the beginning.

No.

The start of the "rife with corruption" was in 1968 when Harlan Carter staged a coup to seize control of the organization. Before that, it was pretty chill.

Habba is the name of an incompetent lawyer working for Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KvoIDkEsiw

She's his worst lawyer, and he's had some stinkers.

https://newrepublic.com/post/174835/trumps-idiot-lawyer-undermines-case-moments-arrest

They wanted to explain why there were so many accidental alien-human hybrids. Because someone forgot that Spock was originally described as being a product of medical science.

Which should have been the answer to every hybrid, their parents made a deliberate choice to have a child, and then did some genetic engineering to get it done.

But the writers wanted to inject drama with accidental hybrids. Also they decided that genetic engineering was banned so that Khan could be an enemy. A good choice because that movie was great. But a bad choice as well because it led to this episode.

This presents an interesting problem for Republicans, and by interesting I mean an unwinnable scenario.

See, if the conservative judges put Trump back on the ballot, they will instantly give more ammunition to people already screaming for court reform.

That's the one thing the conservative legal movement fears.

On the other hand, if they don't come up with some excuse to justify putting Trump back on the ballot, the maga mob will declare them traitors and might actually try to kill them.

The trick will be threading that needle, and I don't think it's possible.

Nothing has changed since their founding.

The IDF was founded out of three major Zionist terrorist organizations.

I actually say the cheapest option is buying a good quality Safety Razor, and then packs of blades for pennies each.

It's how I've shaved for years, and I'm never going back to the multi blade bullshit disposables.

Adli's beer is usually locally sourced. I lived in Columbus OH for a time, and the selection was actually pretty good (depending on season).

I've also seen Aldi stock horrible beer, both in Columbus and elsewhere.

Since I'm not seeing PMs on kbin, I've created @chaogomu

Hopefully the kbin issues will be fixed at some point. Again, thank you.