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  • I felt like I understood your original post, so I hope you're okay if I try to bridge the misunderstandings? If at any point I misunderstood, let me know.


    They aren’t going outside and saying these things where at least one man would smack him upside the head in order to correct bad behavior.

    Expecting men to beat the shit out of people doing the “wrong” things is also a really big problem and isn’t a solution either.

    I feel like this boils down to: having men use physical violence to coerce other men into "proper" behavior isn't the solution. The scare-quotes around "wrong" imply the term being potentially misused.

    I remember in the late 80s when i was really young hearing about gay bashing as if it was a perfectly okay thing to group to and go do.

    You note that groups used violence against gay people in the 80s, and that it was considered acceptable. I read this and the next sentence as being an example, provided to support your first sentence.

    I remember people talking about Freddie Mercury coming out as gay and not feeling comfortable asking why that is a problem for fear of being targeted myself.

    The fear of violence was such a severe deterrent, that even questioning why being gay was "wrong" could have led the group to assume you were gay and thus become violent against you.

    I don’t have any answers

    Although you don't believe in corporal punishment, you don't know what the answer would be. (Which is totally fair, IMO.)


    Is that the gist of what you meant?

    If so, I suspect people lost track of your point around the term "gay bashing." Most people these days probably associate that term with someone speaking poorly of gay people, which sucks, but is relatively tame compared to what I thought you meant - which was, groups that went around literally bashing, as in physically attacking, gay people. (Which was, and still is in some places, an absolutely real thing.) It's possible that this misunderstanding derailed the rest of your comment, leading readers away from your point.

  • May Day is the perfect day to educate one's self about the history of union suppression. If you think you see a pattern, you're right, but the reasons for the pattern have nothing to do with the workers' abilities and everything to do with powerful people using everything in their arsenal to prevent collective action.

  • Wish I could just be lazy and have the troubles go away, but that isn’t how it works.

    I feel this so hard. I've been more active this year than ever, and it takes so much out of me to socialize. But I've been giving talks, canvassing, and attending protests because we really don't have a choice anymore. This government sure as hell isn't interested in helping anyone, so it's all on us.

  • Those fucking candy shops in London. You know the ones.

    I'm sorry, I'm an ignorant American who's never been across the pond. I'm also confused by further comments calling these shops "American."

    Could anyone explain?

  • There's a gas station just outside of town where the price is always ridiculous. It's not uncommon for it to be over a dollar more per gallon (about 36¢ CAD/€0,23 more per litre) than the gas station just one block away. I don't know how it stays in business if they're not doing something sketchy.

  • You make great points, especially the fact that people are often pushing some kind of bias. However, there definitely is a skill to determining the reliability of a source, it's called Information Literacy. You're also right that each person has to develop this skill for themselves.

    For those who truly want to strengthen their Information Literacy, I'd recommend starting by learning to recognize various common cognitive biases and logical fallacies. Simply being familiar with how these things work gives you a leg up on identifying nonsense, even if you can't recall the exact name of the bias or fallacy that may be occurring.

    Skepticism will get you far in determining accurate from inaccurate, and it's important to apply it universally - question everything - instead of simply applying skepticism toward things you don't like. Similarly, be open to changing your mind when presented with new information, because the more you learn how to see through the misinformation, the more you may find the world around you is different from what you'd been told.

  • It is amazing to witness a nation learning from another nation's mistake. It's such a smart, sensible thing to do. Voters in Canada were able to identify a pattern, imagine the consequences happening to themselves, and make a decision to not do the same failed thing as the U.S.

    That's gotta be a crucial distinction between Canada and the U.S.

    Here in the U.S., people ignore and downplay patterns (especially if the patterns hurt their feelings.) When pressed to explain an identical set of patterns, we're more likely to blame whoever is experiencing the patterns for causing them than to critically analyze the cause and effect surrounding them. [Examples I've heard through my life: "Poor people suffer because they're drug addicts." "Women don't get paid as much as men do because women are worse workers than men." "Black people live in violent neighborhoods because they're inherently violent."]

    Too many of us are entrenched in the propaganda-sphere; we are too arrogant, vocal, and either unwilling or unable to engage in critical thought against our zeitgeist. I imagine that if the situation were flipped and Canada had been the first to fall to fascism, the U.S. would still follow. After all, if another country messed up, it's because they did it wrong. But we're too special, too important, Too Big to Fail™, so we could do the exact same thing and be confident that [consequence] could never happen to us.

    Lotsa shocked Pikachu faces going around these days...

  • “Tapping me along” made me imagine someone tapping a golf ball. Nudging it, but not making a big swing, it could be indicative of a subtle influence.

    Trump may not know a lot about a lot, but he spends enough time golfing to potentially use a metaphor from it. On the other hand, I’ve never golfed (except the mini kind), so I could be way off.

  • I just keep watching this. It’s fascinating to see how the “eye” of the herd forms, strengthens, and moves. The individual actions of dozens, if not hundreds, of reindeer coalesce into the same pattern as a hurricane… Fucking beautiful. Thank you for sharing this.

  • I guess we’re at a point where the safest thing to do in this situation would be to just abandon your car and walk away. It’s better to sacrifice your car and inconvenience traffic than to risk your life interacting with ICE.

    I mean, I know other drivers would be pissed, but so be it. In the (hopefully) unlikely event anyone here finds themselves in this situation, don’t buy into the sunk cost fallacy - just cut your losses and keep yourself safe.

  • It’s a skeet/toot

    Honestly, who is picking these words and expecting people to use them seriously? Even avoiding Urban Dictionary (which has its own ideas), “skeet” is a synonym for “spit” in some areas (“Skeet” on dictionary.com, see definition 3.)

    Then there’s toot. Fucking toot.

    Let me put it this way - when I first explained to a Venezuelan friend that King Tutankhamun is frequently referred to as “King Tut” in English, he wouldn’t stop laughing. Spanish would pronounce “tut” the way English would pronounce “toot.” Just as in English, Spanish also uses that word to mean “fart.” If King Fart can’t get respect, how can anyone expect the word “toot” (and phrases like “tooting at” someone) to be taken seriously?