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Another way to protect the rainforest is to stop supporting the main driver of deforestation, the animal industry. https://ourworldindata.org/what-are-drivers-deforestation

The workers develop a sort of disassociation and don’t see them as animals anymore, or just straight up don’t care.

Highest suicide rates worldwide.

Duvan Tomas Perez, 16, died at a Mississippi poultry plant last week after becoming trapped in equipment on a conveyor belt,

more than 100 children worked in dangerous jobs for slaughterhouse cleaning firm

reduce our reliance on farm-grown vegetables

this is the kind of stuff that screams shitpost :) you do you.

If there is some event that puts us all back to pre industrial times it will work.

A plant based diet would feed with the amount we grow 10 billion right now. How many would a forage and hunting society sustain? To give you a idea of the proportions: https://xkcd.com/1338/

Maybe you would more of a impact on others if you decide to stop support the killing. I do shitpost sometimes, it be like that. But I also try to inform others. The point is not that you will change the world alone, but maybe convince others. If avoiding unnecessary deaths is your aspiration you can be a example to others.

Ok, so you only eat the not farmed grocery shop fish and besides that you live vegan from the farmed grocery vegetables?

So you are all the way vegan but jump from time to time in a lake and grab some fish? Is this how you imagine the world will progress?

Right, but you got to acknowledge that dogs and cats are a far more available in cities. Just because you have the privilege of easy to kill fish you can not blame others for killing wild dogs and cats. Cats kill so much birds, it is much better for the environment to kill them instead of fish.

Or dog, to stay on topic. https://www.elwooddogmeat.com/meet-the-dogs

A purely fish based diet is not the answer. It destroys the hole ecosystem.

A purely vegan diet is not the answer.

Elaborate please?

land clearing and deforestation, which release carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitrous oxide (N2O); production and use of fertilizers and other agrichemicals, which emit CO2, N2O, and methane (CH4); enteric fermentation during the production of ruminants (cows, sheep, and goats), which emits CH4; p

Why do you only highlight some items? Everything could be reduced by 3/4 with a plant based diet. No change will result in +2°C. Once it hits +4°C there is no more animal agriculture.

Your nature argument is flawed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy You can't justify your behavior with wild animals.

Alright, abolish animal farming then. All wild animals in the world would last less than 2 months. We don't have to kill others.

So you don't care about non human animals, do you feel superior to them? Is that your excuse why you support the abuse and killing of them? If you are pro dog meat please buy responsible: https://www.elwooddogmeat.com/meet-the-dogs

Killing animals is inevitable regardless of diet. Your plant based diet requires growing crops, but tilling soil and harvesting plants kills millions or billions of invertebrates. They are so small that they escape everyone’s attention, yet they are still animals killed to make your food.

Are you a concern troll or do just don't know that we could reduce with a plant based diet the land use, the tiling of soil and the killing of those billions invertebrates? The intentional killing of 90 billion land animals and trillions of fish aside

I’m saying it’s 1000 times easier to take the step to treat them better than cut meat consumption all together.

I was just saying its 1000 times easier to treat slaves better than to cut it all together. If Bezos would pay his workers better and let them take a piss on a real toilet it would destroy the profits. Once robots are cheaper and faster I will be the first to stop supporting slavery, but until then I have no choice.

Why is it that you insist on killing others? My plant based diet is cheaper, healthier and creates less suffering. Do you think everyone could or should just kill wild animals when they don't need to? https://xkcd.com/1338/

a wild-caught fish was likely about to kill other fish, then catching a fish may be as morally necessary

The fish has no alternative and if you catch one you steal it without the need for it from other animals. Are you trying to make lions vegans? We have options, we have moral agency.

Feeding animals plants is responsible for 3/4 of the agricultural land. The goal of veganism is to reduce suffering as much as possible. There is no illusion of living on earth with zero impact, the goal is a minimize the impact. We could reduce the land use to 1/4 with a plant based diet. And obviously stop the intentional killing and abusing of sentient beings.

So true, we had always slaves and it will never stop. We need to start treating our slaves better, no doubt, but aboliation is never going to happen, we just need to support the good slave owners.