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  • In what jurisdiction are those instances hosted?

  • You've made a very fine app, especially impressive given how quickly it's come together. You should be proud!

  • Ah, see, that's a good spot. Rule lawyers are a valuable asset to the fabric of our society.

  • We sure don't want em here, either

  • What I'm saying is that you will never be able to decide for yourself who you do/don't listen to, even on Lemmy. There will always be mods and there will always be admins wherever you go, unless you just head off by yourself and spin something up, and even then the mods and admins on the communities of the other instances you follow will be able to remove content on their instance.

  • And I would prefer to decide for myself who I do/donโ€™t listen to.

    You can, by spinning up a personal one-man instance and making an account on it, then federating with whoever you want.

    Short of that, you're always going to be beholden to someone. The fact you can even do that is more than is possible on mainstream social media.

  • Tankies are souring a lot of people from joining in my subjective experience. One of my friends questioned the presence of them and the views of the developers (and also why the "main" (not accurate but they haven't even joined, so) instance lemmy.ml had the .ml domain to begin with) and I couldn't give a satisfactory answer at the time, as I didn't know enough about the place yet.

    Upstanding instances should do their part to defederate from any tankie or fascist instances, so we can all distance ourselves from extremist rhetoric and make it seem like an actually OK place to hang out.

  • I give a shit about civil rights because people live here? Ideally a country would have decent civil rights codified into law and not bomb children abroad.

    Yeah all that shit does and did happen. I said "even worse" for a reason.

    Russia is still worse off in that field. Which is why picking them to root for purely because it might put a dent in America's influence (spoilers, it's not even - if anything it's strengthened it) is just... I don't understand.

    EDIT: You know I feel the need to just extra-emphasize this:

    who gives a shit about who has better โ€œcivil rightsโ€

    This kind of shit is why no one likes tankies. It's almost stereotypical.

  • Gee I dunno, a country with even worse civil rights that has no free elections and is actively performing an invasion right now?

    America can be bad and Russia can be worse. It's allowed.

  • and anything that destroys its hegemony of the globe is a good thing in our eyes

    And there's where you not only lose me but get me to think that anyone peddling that kind of absolutist rhetoric should be defederated from. There are things worse than America, if you can believe that.

  • I'm not an admin, this is just my opinion.

    And yes, I can also denounce unnecessary American invasions in the name of "freedom" at the same time. This isn't some kind of sport, I don't need to pick a team and stick with it. I simply find it kind of hypocritical that a lot of the same people hypercritical of American intervention on a global scale are cool with Russia's invasion because it is "anti-NATO" or some such. People are fucking dying, it's hell, not a game. That plus, no matter how you slice it, Putin's regime is certainly worse than the current American climate - I can at least actually vote for the next president and criticize what they're doing without fear of falling out a window.

  • I mean personally I'm 100% down to defederate from any instance that not only harbors but supports Russian invasion of Ukraine apologia. The fact some people intended to be brigadey is just extra reason in my book.

  • Oh it may be worth a try, I don't feel too strongly on it either way. My only worry is that it would make the entire network too granular and stilted to navigate if you really want to see most of what is offered.

  • It would be safer, but would also then require instance admins to go actively seek out new instances to federate with, which would make it harder for new spaces to grow.

  • Cause maybe lemmygrad should be defederated as well.

  • Spez would allow any opinion until it became unprofitable, usually due to bad press. Actually pre-emptively taking a stand on something before it turns into a media shitshow is uncharacteristic of him.

  • Personally I would not want to engage with any community that shares opinions like "the Russian invasion of Ukraine actually may be a good thing".

  • For what it's worth, a full 24 hours or more is more time than most reddit threads last

  • Credit where it's due, Reddit was pretty good at coming up with novel ideas for social experiments for a few years (which also drove engagement, not coincidentally).

    If I were to come up with Place-but-not, for the fediverse and Lemmy specifically, I would do it like this:

    The canvas would start very small and divided into plots, with each plot "owned" by a user. The user who owns a plot can determine the pallete to be used in their plot, can whitelist / blacklist other users on their plot, and has a reduced cooldown on placing pixels inside their plot. They are the admin of their plot, basically, which is to mimic an instance.

    When every pixel of the canvas has been covered at least once or a certain amount of time has elapsed, it would expand with new auto-generated plots randomly assigned to users from among those who have placed a pixel. Plots could be regular squares or other irregular shapes. The most inactive plots could be blanked and reassigned to a new owner after a time.

    In this way, users would have to work together to make bigger art on the canvas or seek out a spot willing to cooperate with their art. You'd see alliances of plots, users making art around an uncooperative plot, hostile plots get ganged up on, hands-off plot owners allowing anything on their plot, and all sorts of shit like that that makes social experiments like this interesting. You'd likely still need top-tier admin intervention to remove hate symbols and the like.

  • Anyone who uses the word woke can be disregarded.