Awesome, thank you for the detailed explanation! It's so clear now.
When I looked around, I couldn't find a similar explanation in the links you provided in the original post. But I guess it might be helpful for other people, too. So if you like, why not add a "how does this work?"-section? You can use roughly what you just wrote.
I'm new to this idea and tool, so I have some questions:
How do you deal with conflicting bubbles or chains of trust? Say the trolls all endorse each other and claim you're the troll, while you and your friends do the opposite. Who wins?
How to get started with sharing my opinion on who to trust?
a new post would be at the top and then each comment would “bump” the post to the top again.
That might be a fitting description of the current behaviour, yes. But the doc you linked only mentions the last part. It does not specify wether new posts with no comments are sorted top or bottom. I expected it to sort them bottom, since a post with no comments has no "New Comments".
if everyone uses that then who will be the first one to comment on any post?
Yes, but not everyone uses that. I switch between different sorting types. Sometimes I am the first to comment.
I question how many users actually want it, and want it that way.
On the other side, it annoys other people so much they consider defederation, beyond blocking.
Yes, they have the right to do what they want on their server alright. I still think one should be mindful of your own impact on society.
I guess in this case I'd like it to be opt-in. Like an hourly newsletter. Technically cool to offer it, unless it's opt-out. But Lemmy doesn't work that way, right?
I live about 100m away from a city metro station and I love it. On my way to the station, I walk past:
a wellness studio
3 fast food restaurants of different types
a bakery
a small supermarket
a hair studio
an ATM
about three other businesses which always make me wonder why they exist
Now I could have this walkable neighborhood or I could walk past six lanes of high speed traffic. And up and down the street I have more destinations to visit or I could count SUVs zooming by on a freeway!
Just today I blocked a bot and a very active user (?) because they clutter my feed.
I mostly blame the poor Lemmy algorithms. I select "New Comments" and still get 33% posts with 0 comments and 1 points, shared between two accounts. I'd rather see a post from yesterday with actual engagement.
Yes, I very much agree with the general lemm.ee policy. But I also found your argument convincing:
These bots ruin the experience on Lemmy for new users.
Trying to be constructive, I have two thoughts:
Can we hear opinions in favor of these accounts with thousands of posts, most of which are 1 points, 0 comments?
How about reaching out to these accounts, asking them to post less, or less non-engaging stuff?
I think the best example of how to ‘lemmy’ properly, or in a way that doesn’t create ‘wasted votes’ (in the gerrymandering sense) of content, is the startrek lemmy. The focus on a niche topic and own it entirely. Theres no point in having lemmy subcommunities based on startrek because the startrek lemmy is so great and makes such great content.
I found this paragraph pretty confusing, probably because of uncommon terminology.
With "the startrek lemmy" you refer to one specific instance? Which? 'Lemmy' is commonly used to refer to the platform, or the software.
"lemmy subcommunities" refers to communities? Like https://lemmy.world/c/fediverse? Later you use the word "sublemmys". Does that refer to the same thing, a community?
Overall the suggestions make sense for me. But it isn't as trivial to solve, because of politics and policies. Maybe the startrek instance has great content, but does not allow hate speech. So "free speech" ultras might see demand for a startrek community on a "free speech" instance. Or hate speech is allowed, in which case the same scenario happens for everyone else.
Another line of division is the bot question. Are bots allowed to make new posts? Are bots allowed to make new comments?
What's the moderation style?
People are diverse. A one-size-fits-all-solution will likely leave some demands unsatisfied. If that portion is big enough, it justifies redundant communities. And there are many more reasons to possibly see redundancy as a good thing.
People who like a centralized approach can flock to the biggest instance or community, and others can do their thing. Both can coexist. What would be nice to have is view-grouping of communities, from the reader's perspective.
You are not your Lemmy account, and you are specifically not one single Lemmy account. If you don't like the policy of an instance, you can try to change it or go somewhere else. Ok right, in the attempt to influence policy, you can play the 'you telling me that I'm not allowed'-card.
Now that I think about it, the most uncensored Lemmy experience is being logged out. Every content is visible, no middle man can hinder you to visit these sites. It's a bit like when a public library decides to organize their books into separate rooms. Would you call that censorship because you have to walk between the rooms to access all the content?
Censorship would be fitting if certain content would be erased from the library. I think that's only possible on Lemmy if all instances agree.
Awesome, thank you for the detailed explanation! It's so clear now.
When I looked around, I couldn't find a similar explanation in the links you provided in the original post. But I guess it might be helpful for other people, too. So if you like, why not add a "how does this work?"-section? You can use roughly what you just wrote.
With a friendly smirk, I endorse
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