We need to have a serious talk about this instance being federated with Lemmygrad, Hexbear, and tankies in general
Spzi @ Spzi @lemm.ee Posts 11Comments 641Joined 2 yr. ago
Me in tech support.
Customer calls: "Internet is not working!!"
Me: "Router lights status?"
Customer: "Can't tell."
Me: "Why?"
Customer: "Router still in box."
Me: "..?"
Me (pretends it was just an error of communication): "Can you please describe the lights on your router?"
Customer: "I can't. It's still in the packaging. The box is on my table."
Me: "...??!? ... You ... need at least electricity to power this device."
Customer spirals into rage and madness: "I ordered wireless internet!! I won't plug any cables in! I did not want any wires!!!"
Needlessly edgy and otherwise pointless comments, like the two you presented here, are the reason why no one likes you guys.
Maybe you care more about: It's also the reason why you don't get the point across which you may try to get across. Or maybe you're just trolling, I can't tell.
The mega corps took the internet from us, changed it from a million small sites that people created because they had big ideas, or were passionate about small ones, and turned it into a few enormous sites with no new ideas, no passion, just an insatiable desire for money.
I read it as: 'They embraced, extended and extinguished what you held dear'.
I want to know if the product I’m buying has changed and while
Makes me think of a local git diff since your last purchase(s). See at a glance if it has changed, and what has changed.
Fridays For Future is a movement started by Great Thunberg. It's goal is to put pressure on politics to fulfill the Paris agreement.
FFF is doing strikes every Friday, with major events once in a while. Before the Covid pandemic, participant numbers reached millions worldwide. The next big one is today, with events around the globe: https://fridaysforfuture.org/action-map/map/
In practical terms, a FFF strike is a regular, orderly, peaceful, announced demonstration, free and safe for everyone to participate. If your country supports these citizens rights, of course.
I was self hosting GitLab for a while. The docker container was quick and easy to set up, simply worked out of the box.
Others gave good reasons against, but I'd like to find a way through. Without knowing much about your project.
What if you classify it as art, whatever it is? Others are free to use, change and copy it, as long as they themselves allow the same with theirs.
Gravity becomes lower at higher altitudes, or what do you mean?
However harsh and hostile Earth can become due to climate change. Rest assured, Mars is harsher and more hostile.
Whatever terraforming efforts we put into Mars to change that, would be easier, cheaper and more effective put into Earth.
Other factors favor Earth over Mars which are entirely unaffected by climate change:
- Earth's gravity is ideal for us
- We have all our scientists, workers, vehicles, machines, resources and infrastructure here, not there
- Earth has a magnetic field which shields us from cancer-inducing cosmic radiation. Mars does not.
- Marth has sharp dust particles flying around, which are a nightmare for surface machinery. Earth does not.
- ...
There literally is no planet B. Also, tomorrow (15th Sept) is another FFF strike (on Earth).
The All-Feed is very important to increase the content-quality of the threadiverse
How so? For who, and why? I doubt it's true for me. I use my subscribed communities. How does the existence, or the state of existence of the All-Feed affect my content quality?
However, if [small instances] push people toward their the Local-Feed (which they currently do), people will only stay on their instance
What do you mean with "push people towards their local feed"? Are you referring to the instance default setting, wether the instance page should be fed from All, Subscribed or Local? And you mean the default should be All, not Local?
Also doubts about the last part; "people will only stay on their instance". I joined my instance when it had around 100 users, and instantly started searching for communities which interest me, and subscribed to them, regardless on which instance they are hosted.
Maybe the kind of user you are talking about exists. Maybe some people never search for their interests, never get interested in a cross-post community, never get interested in a community when other people talk about it. I have doubts about all this, but maybe it exists. But it's on you who makes that statement to show this user group exists in a number large enough to talk about it as if there was no one else.
Maybe some people will only stay on their instance, but if some is small enough, and a good part of those enjoy exactly that, why should we care or even try to change that?
I do agree however, that community discovery should be improved even further. Especially for people from very small communities, it can be a tricky process to discover new communities on remote instances.
we need a new feed, in which an instance can find a good balance between showing content from other instances and its own.
I'm all for more control, which is why I'd like that power on the user level. Let me choose how to curate and compose my feed. An instance may predefine defaults, yes. Much like instances predefine wether their start page is populated with All, Subscribed or Local, and users can freely choose otherwise or change this setting permanently for them individually.
Ideally, I'd like to assign weights to instances and communities, to control how likely a post from that origin is to show up in my feed.
I'm not entirely sure what they meant. There are three settings: All, Subscribed, Local. Instance owners have to choose which is the default for their instance. Neither is "pushing" anything.
For themed instances, it makes sense to emphasize their local feed. For generic instances, not so much. Either way, users can choose another setting anytime, or even set their own default.
the (very based) devs are committed to user privacy, so your data will never get analyzed
All credit to the devs, but Lemmy isn't great on privacy. Your votes are technically public, and there is no way to guarantee what you delete or edit is actually deleted and edited. You're right the data is not used to customize your feed, but not because it's private. It isn't.
This, and via crossposting. I discovered a couple of interesting communities because someone cross-posted stuff I was interested in to those communities. Likewise, I try to cross-post my own post to some popular communities, and niche communities to give them more visibility.
It's not the device whis is made obsolete (objectively). It's a very specific group of users who perceives it as obsolete (subjectively), since they want to always have the newest thing. Other people are different, and will be happy to pick up one of those "obsolete" phones at a discount and use it until they physically fall apart.
For example, I'm just switching phones after having used a 2nd hand phone for 8 years. Screen was broken for years, battery is struggling more and more, freezes are getting too frequent to ignore. Another reason for the switch is, there's more and more apps I cannot install because my phone is too old.
The last point is a good reason for your argument, discontinuation in support. When they stop supporting my old device, that is making it obsolete. But whatever new stuff they release in the meantime does not affect me at all.
Admittedly, I spent very little time on Mastodon. But as I remember it, there is something like a 'home feed'. And I also remember only seeing the most recent entries at the top, which is not necessarily what I would have found the most interesting. For example, I think I'd be at least equally interested in entries with engagement, where people talk about the post. Which sometimes requires some time to pass.
You're right I lost track about the precise topic, sorry for that.
What are these algorithms you talk about?
Currently, we have these: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-docs/blob/main/src/users/03-votes-and-ranking.md
You want it to be sorted by what is interesting. How do you deterine what is interesting to you?
People don't need to science it. They can choose different modes from the dropdown, stick with what they like for whatever reason, or play around. Or even ignore the option altogether. Personally, I use 'New Comments' as my default, inspect communities with 'New', and occasionally switch to 'Hot', 'Active' and 'Top X Hours' when I'm looking for more.
In terms of manipulation, I guess the biggest lever here is to which instance I log in, followed by which communities I subscribe to. This heavily influences the type of content I see, the political leaning, and things like that. How this content is sorted into a feed is a minor decision in comparison.
How about give the users control over the algorithm? Akin to Lemmy, where we can at least choose one of many sorting algorithms, including chronological. But I only use 'New' when checking out specific communities. For the actual feed, I very much prefer an algorithmic approach.
I don't see it as the platform's responsibility to "create an unbiased recommendation algorithm without creating echo chambers". Give me the means to prevent that, yes. But please let me decide for myself wether I want a wide or narrow range of topics, and which flavor.
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there’s no point in wondering why lemmy isn’t more popular, just participate in the communities you like.
I think we can and should nerd the shit out of this.
A good nerd can understand why a space is appealing to nerds but less to others, and adjust it accordingly to fix that.
Let's move this tech from "it works great if you know how to use it" to "it's great and I have no idea how it works". Remove server talk from https://join-lemmy.org/. Auto-assign instance for newcomers so they don't need to care. Make switching instances easy and seemless so it does not matter they did not care. Make links and IDs work cross-instance out of the box. Complete documentation (there's a wiki which could use some love). Things like that. Improve user experience until using something else feels like a pain.
I overall completely agree with your comment, just wanted to nitpick on this one "no point" point. I think this is important, even for the nerds.
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When I came home and browsed ALL, it was exactly same posts as there was this morning. That’s a problem for getting return visits.
Yes, that's a problem. What you can do to help yourself:
- uncheck "Show Read Posts" in your settings
- switch between feed algorithms ('New Comments', 'Active', 'Hot', 'Top Hour')
- subscribe to more communities
- unsubscribe from big communities if they dominate your feed
Most of these actions have drawbacks.
The biggest issue here from my point of view is, that none of this works out of the box. It requires will and capability to tweak your Lemmy. More often than not, the solution might simply be to not return visit.
An actual solution might be something like: Assign a relevancy score to each post. Posts with higher relevancy are more likely to appear in your stream. When a post has been shown to you, it's relevancy drops (at least for relative streams like 'Active' and 'New Comments'. Absolute streams like 'Top Hour' might need a different treatment). When you visited a post, it's relevancy drops a lot. This could help populate your stream with fresh content (of which there is no shortage!). When a user scrolls past a post one or even more times, they probably aren't interested in seeing it, so the post should not be shown in the future.
For the record, I changed my opinion regarding hexbear. While I generally very much appreciate the open federation policy, I think users from that instance overwhelmingly deteriorate the culture in comment sections. Appreciable individual exceptions exist.