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  • We're in agreement them. I do want leftists to police much better, but i don't think it should be along the lines of ideology but behavior. We should moderate on general behavior like stances on bigotry, and due to being leftists, it should open us to be able to see that denial of the Tiannamen square, Russia's invasion of Ukraine, China's genocide on the Uighur, and more is false information and should be bannable.

    I kind of can make the comparison of tankies to MAGA. They are both zealous and fervent followers, but I am not sure i can confidently say yet if they should be outright banned. I am not sure a rule like "No Republicans" in Lemmy is a conducive thing. I understand a no Nazi rule, but I am not sure what the line is and whether tankies are near that line. I will have to concede on this point and read up on other people's opinion and thoughts on this before I make a conclusion of my own.

  • The only thing i want to comment on from your post is the horse shoe theory (the left and right blend together and are the same). That kind of idea is what ends up lumping tankies with leftists when their base ideals do not match with leftist values (socialists, communists, anarchists). This is the same rhetoric where centrists and the right wing would use to defend the alt right which further empowers them.

    If you support Russia, China, or North Korea you aren't a leftist. They are authoritarian and fascistic regimes who employ capitalistic systems. Do not lump them in together.

  • The people who want capitalism dismantled are socialists, communists, and anarchists. Tankies believe in the fascistic and authoritarian governments of Russia and China and always play defense for them. When you actually talk to them and break down their views, they don't really care about socialism and just want another authoritarian regime. The amount of tankies i have interacted with who think China and North Korea are communist is staggering.

  • This was a good post and I think you have the right attitude.

    To be clear about something, it should be stated tankies are not really left wing. They take the side of Russia and China and defend such actions as you mention. They are quite fascistic in ideology when you break it down. They also remind me of MAGA hats a bit in their rhetoric and I do think given enough time they will/are nationalistic in regards to Russia and China.

    I don't think we should defederate from them, as of now, as long as lemm.ee has clear rules on bigotry and other things that are disruptive. Russian or Chinese propaganda should be either removed or have users downvote them and hidden. Regarding their shit posts, i think it should be allowed on certain dedicated subs. Like, 196 had their posts hit all but their culture stayed contained on that subreddit and instance.

    And before anyone comments on me not being part of lemm.ee, I am planning to make an account and most likely make it my default but I am watching everything before I make a decision.

  • How many people are using Piped, revanced, or the like? I doubt it is the majority. This move is highly likely more greed than anything.

    Does Google care about our user experience? The short answer is no. Look at the intrusive ads, how long they are, them suggesting DRM, right wing pipeline, and more.

    Look at how they treat their content creators. Demonetization, channel and copyright strikes, etc.

    The list goes on. Youtube should and needs to be public. Internet is a utility and needed to survive by everyone. A video hosting service like Youtube is needed as well. Through every perspectice, Google is, ultimately, wrong in doing this.