Sami_Uso @ Sami_Uso @lemmy.world

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Gimme a break, Hillary just came out publicly as a "key player" in the Biden campaign. Mentioning Dems affiliation with pedophiles is absolutely relevant.

We are bombarded almost daily with stories about people in power skirting accountability in a way we've never been able to before. We see happening in every facet of American life, how do you expect people to honestly have any faith in the system anymore?

I understand where you're coming from, but we're far past that kind of talk sounding "crazy" anymore. It's common practice.

How is pointing out the fact that members of both political parties were named as acquaintances of a known pedophile "trying to feel like a victim"? Seeing the Trump comments under every single Epstein post is super hilarious and everything, but I don't see very many posts about Hillary or Bill. Just trying to make sure they're all accounted for, not just the guys we already don't like.

Fair enough, I just wanna make sure they are all held accountable, not just the guys we already dislike. I'm all for Trump facing a firing squad, I just sort of feel like we've gotten to a place where those kind of people don't really feel the same squeeze of justice that us 99%ers do.

Right, so just a Trump issue, then?

Because I see comments about Trump under every Epstein, and there were way more politicians than Trump included in that passenger manifest. Is it offensive to you that I pointed that out or something?

You know Dems were in that book, too, right?

Well, there can't be infinite possibilities, I'm assuming? Just sort of wondering if anyone could comment on what they thought the most likely outcome might be.

Is that really asking someone to predict the future?

Same here, 04 was my first election so I was still under the haze of my parents politics but I remember very similar language being used back then.

Literally had a campaign called VOTE OR DIE. lmao

What, you don't like the scare tactics being pushed by Dems and all of his supporters? You don't like being shamed or scared into voting for a candidate you don't really agree with?

Dang I thought that worked well in 2016, just barely in 2020, should be great this time around, too!

Can anyone enlighten a legal-dummy about what the most likely outcome is? Like what can we honestly expect to happen, not just best case scenario. I just don't see a world where this dude actually faces punishment, right?

Reputation with key allies rather than the world stage then. I don't know why it has to be for anything else than quid pro quo with selected allies. That's a different sentiment than global reputation on the world stage.

Sure I'm not talking about abandoning Ukraine or even criticizing the aid the US is sending here, I'm just saying I think it's pretty naive of us in 2023 to pretend this has anything to do with global reputation.

They didn't care in 04 going into Iraq, they didn't care the other day voting against a cease fire. Reputation with key allies they might need, sure, but not globally.

Reputation? Really? I mean, they can keep sending support for Ukraine all they want but to act like this has anything to do with reputation is pretty funny especially in the wake of the US blocking the Gaza ceasefire vote.

This country has shown time and time again they don't really give a shit what it's reputation is on the world stage, regardless of administration..

Unfortunately I think we've been living in it for awhile already. All you need to do is say a thing with a big enough platform and the people decide if they want to believe it or not. They don't care if it's factual, they just care who's saying it.

It's definitely weird to see comments almost filled with GLEE under articles like this.

It's a popular issue being discussed at the top of my feed, of course I have opinions related to it. There aren't a ton of articles with discussion about other Arab ethnostates running open air prisons on Lemmy, if your feed has some I'd love to hear some suggestions.

You're trying really hard to paint this as an antisemitic thing when it really just comes down to them being weird as fuck. No country in the world operates in the way they do with as much political power and influence as they do. I don't even think that's much of a stretch to say, even Israeli officials confirm it. It's ultimately a human rights issue, I'm not calling for the destruction of Israel, I'm asking you to not destroy the people within Israel.

You can use history and semantics all you want, but Gaza is the stain on your argument. What's happening there is awful, period.

Yes? Did you expect me to say no to that?

Lemme just make sure it's clear, this is not about Israel being Jewish... It's about them running an open air prison, taking a moral high ground and my country's relationship with said ethnostate.

Also that verbage, "destruction" is so interesting to me. I don't remember calling for the destruction of Israel?

At least with republicans you know they're awful from the jump they don't really try to hide their shit baggery. Dems try to play the good guy but are like wolves in sheep's clothing