There's also a 1:1 probability that you're a sociopath, mentally unstable, brainwashed, legitimately stupid, or willfully ignorant.

Transylgaynia

I guess I am unfit for office because I forget everyone's name about 3 minutes after they tell me. If I haven't met you several times I am just never remembering your name.

Lemmy users talking to Reddit users.

You’re literally advocating for letting Trump do unconstitutional things

No, I'm not. I'm reinforcing the likely outcome that is coming from the Supreme Court based on their own words, and threads of inquiry during oral arguments. I don't agree with it, but I am preparing for it. They are 100% not going to unilaterally allow Donald Trump to be removed from state ballots. If you think they are, you are lying to yourself.

Making legal rulings based on obviously fallacious reasonings because of what Republicans might do or how they’ll abuse that ruling is morally wrong and absolutely unjust.

I agree, but I'm not the one you need to convince. The Supreme Court doesn't share your impassioned desire for justice and ethics. They are absolutely going to hedge their bets in preparation for retaliatory legal action by Republican majority states who are already acting with impunity right now if you hadn't noticed.

They’re judges. This is their job.

They are also human beings, and they are prone to irrational actions based on implicit personal biases. This is a body that, in my opinion, no longer serves its designed function and now exists solely as an abstract exercise in mentally masturbatory naval gazing that collectively sees itself as completely disconnected from the ramifications of its actions. It is literally the godhead of a profoundly sick society that is trapped in a self-imposed negative feedback loop that is unlikely to be changed without mass civil unrest.

⬆️ This is the correct answer.

If they allow individual states to make their own "objective" legal determinations regarding what is or is not an insurrection then you will never have a democratic candidate on the ballot in any Republican majority controlled state ever again. They will take that as carte blanche authority to say that every single Democrat is a traitor to the Constitution, and is unfit to hold office.

Edit: I am following up because I realize what a contentious and controversial position this is, and I agree. However, the important thing to note is that this is the exact logic that was repeatedly broached by the Supreme Court itself. We can argue ad nauseum about the legitimacy of that body, but the bottom line is this: they are not going to allow Donald Trump to be unilaterally removed from the ballot. They are afraid of the ramifications of that decision, that much is clear. So, regardless of anyone's personal feelings on the matter you need to make peace with the fact that the Supreme Court is going to all but destroy the protections of Article 3 of the 14th Amendment. That is just the reality, and that means it is more important than ever that we make sure Donald Trump does not make it back to the White House. If he does, that is going to be the beginning of the end of the United States for the foreseeable future.

The worst case scenario that nobody wants to talk about is Donald Trump being able to pack additional justices onto the Supreme Court that are in their late 40's who will be on the bench for another 40 years, and guarantee the further erosion of civil rights in a way that will permanently destroy any chance for reform for the rest of your fucking life. This is not a game, this is not a drill, the Supreme Court has made it clear they are not going to do the right thing. The only remaining choice is collective action through voting or mass civil disobedience. Get ready....

Wow, an ad hominem argument...what a surprise. While you may not like the ethical implications of what I said (I don't either for the record), you would he hard pressed to argue against it.

So, again, I ask you to tell me how you think the system has or will change without violence being a main deterministic factor?

Maybe, why don't you present one with supporting evidence of its efficacy?

Because from where I'm sitting the answer is definitely violence, it has always been violence, and it will always be violence. The only choice is whether that is structural violence being monopolized by the state, vigilantism by factional groups, or mass uprising by the proletariat.

No matter how you slice the pie, violence is a part of 100% of the social evolution of society. You will not be able to provide a single example to the contrary because it does not exist.

Truth x Facts

Just drink enough to give yourself mild alcohol poisoning, get under a heated blanket turned on full blast, and then have someone hit all your major joints with a hammer every once in a while.

Bruh.....I upvoted the fuck out of this, but lemmy tell ya, I didn't feel good about it 😂

I'm not attacking her for being female.

I'm attacking her for being a perpetually self-serving grifter who has repeatedly abused the public trust in an attempt to cash in on her Jerry Springer-esque freakshow popularity at the expense of American democracy.

But sure, go ahead and stand up for her. I'm sure she won't mind stepping on your head on her way up to her overpaid position at OAN or Newsmax once she tanks her election next year.

In before she claims she's a battered woman on the campaign trail to try to stack up sympathy votes.

This seems like it is probably somewhere between Cocaine and Fentanyl on the addictive scale.

At this point yes, but it is a relatively modern development for there to be so much organized mobilization of these factional groups. The most dangerous thing that Trump accomplished was getting them all to identify as one big in-group, so there really is no functional difference anymore.

I wish I shared your optimism, but I've read way too many YouTube comments. There is no shortage of knuckle-dragging soldiers waiting to do Trump's bidding. It is beyond scary how many of them there are, and I don't see the problem just magically disappearing if/when old Adolf Shitler finally sees some consequences. Now that there is a permanent strategic unification between Evangelicals, Fascists, and Capitalists they will continue to use their uneducated, quickly reproducing, white-trash, zombie army to do their collective bidding.

Wait....you can do that? I thought that was a chips-only-condiment-combo. Blowing my fucking mind right now chief.

Cucker Tarlson is pulling a Tulsi Gabbard. What a fucking surprise.

My brother in christ, he is taking a dab not smoking crack.