OccamsTeapot @ OccamsTeapot @lemmy.world

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It's because I don't understand how you can see that image and read that story and immediately jump to Hamas. Instead of saying "this has to stop" all you did was point the finger at Hamas. It comes across as totally callous

It was a question not a conclusion. Actually I asked so I didn't have to come to one before understanding what your position is

Definitely a lot of the things people claim Trump will do are more theoretical than not. But also Trump was actually president so it's not all theoretical, it will probably be a lot like last time. i.e. totally shit.

But people aren't always pragmatic so I think convincing someone to vote for you is a much better plan. Biden is in a popularly contest with a racist, idiotic convicted felon and is still somehow about tied with him. Hate to always bring up the supporting a genocide thing but I MEAN...

Trump and Biden are two sides of same coin. They are not so vastly different as you portend

They are different on almost every issue

Trump wants to "get rid" of the Education Department, make it easier to fire civil servants (the section F stuff), at minimum become more hostile to NATO and at worst leave, cut taxes for rich people, relax any environmental policies, allow states to take away the right to abortion, and even in Biden's shittiest area, Gaza, Trump seems to think the issue is that they weren't quick enough with the killing and had bad PR. Immigration, Biden has some shitty policies but Trump wants a Muslim ban again.

I could go on. Fuck Biden. Fuck Trump even more.

It means something, clearly. This is only meaningless if enough people in the US are pragmatic and sensible and will vote for people they dislike to keep out a monster... Let me just have a check what happened in 2016 OH GOD OH FUCK WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE

If it was a war on Hamas, nothing would escalate in the West Bank. If it was a genocide against Palestinians... well...

Do you have sympathy for the emaciated child? What do you think about that?

Oh look it's that stuff we're told isn't happening.

Obviously, much like South Africa, the human rights council is just another legal arm of Hamas. They are an incredibly powerful and well connected organisation with widespread support in major institutions, humanitarian organizations, the UN and grassroots support across the world. How did they achieve this? 🤷‍♂️ but obviously if we acknowledge that this is an insane conspiracy theory we would have to admit all of crimes that Israel is doing and we can't have that now can we

My dude we all know what Israel is doing. Take your hasbara and fuck off

Who the fuck cares. The democrats did it and it is shit. Literally sending military equipment which will be used to kill children. "But the republicans" is the lamest, most pathetic fucking response to that. Political tribalism has rotted your brain

If this horror continues until January, Gaza is already gone. I don't even know what the fuck they would do if it stops today. He had the chance to be better and he fucked it up. I actually believed he would be better than this.

Obligatory yes you should still vote for Biden because Trump is obviously worse and undoubtedly the West Bank would be next. Not to mention project 2025. But "horrific" policy is not the best selling point, even when pitted against "even worse" policy. American politics is truly broken.

Obviously this is cruel and the republicans can go fuck themselves. But also it would be quite hilariously stupid for the US to pay to destroy Gaza and pay to rebuild it.

I would say help rebuild it, but perhaps they should have reconsidered the destroying part. But hey what do I know. Something something important ally in the region, just a little smidge of genocide and apartheid. All good nothing to see here

Sweden is technically a monarchy but a constitutional one. Jordan is actually a traditional monarchy, just weakly pretending to be a constitutional one.

I mean if Hamas and Israel both consider it a ceasefire, let's by all means ignore that and defer to a random Lemmy user.

I'm not asking for deference, we both just found examples of continuing conflict. Why would you describe this as a ceasefire? You don't need to believe me, just use your brain.

If two people are punching each other in the face but insist they are not fighting, what do we believe: them, or our own eyes?

It is obvious. Those hypothetical people are fighting. And likewise, there was no ceasefire.

Yeah I was confused about what you meant because of this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/03/palestinians-killed-israeli-strike-west-bank-jenin

And this: https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/2023-marks-deadliest-year-record-children-occupied-west-bank

And this: https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/pulling-trigger-first-resort-palestinians-killed-israeli-army-and-settlers-2022-enar

And all of this: https://pchrgaza.org/en/israeli-human-rights-violations-in-the-occupied-palestinian-territory-weekly-update-27-september-04-october-2023/

It seems like there was never a cease fire? Israel has been firing the whole time. And before you say that most of this was in the West Bank, it is all attacks on Palestine. Just because it has been broken up doesn't make the people different and I don't think Hamas and other militant groups see this as anything other than Israel attacking Palestine. Hamas called October 7th "Al-Aqsa Flood" for a reason.

How long had that "ceasefire" been going?

Even stating the well documented FACTs I listed about Hamas and what they have done, gets downvoted. Is that not extremely fucked up?

This is a story about 50k children getting sicker because Israel is intentionally starving them. And yet all you did was talk about Hamas. Nothing about these kids. That is extremely fucked up and that is why you got downvoted.

You see starving kids and you respond with the very propaganda used by the perpetrators to justify it

I understand that, also I think most of it was in your previous comment. What you didn't do is answer the question: how long has Gaza got?

It's 5 months to the election. How long has Gaza got? It already seems too late.