JasSmith @ JasSmith @sh.itjust.works

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The majority are children how can they leave?

Most of their parents are either terrorists or support terrorists. They're currently using their own children as human shields. What do you propose we do about that? Forcibly remove the children from Gaza? I'm sure terrorists sympathisers like you would be perfectly happy with that plan.

At least you could read the source you cite.

Facing mounting international calls to ease or lift their blockade in response to the Gaza flotilla raid, Egypt and Israel lessened the restrictions starting in June 2010. Israel announced that it will allow all strictly civilian goods into Gaza while preventing weapons and what it designates as "dual-use" items from entering Gaza.[100] Egypt partly opened the Rafah border crossing from Egypt to Gaza, primarily for people, but not for supplies, to go through.

Additionally, any Gazan my leave by ship at any time.

We don't have enough houses and schools for everyone as is. If you're saying we need even more, no one is arguing with you. We're arguing that, given reality, adding more unskilled and illiterate migrants makes all of our problems much worse.

You argue that protecting the border is impossible, and I couldn't disagree more. Countries have been successfully protecting their borders for millennia. If you're arguing that Germany just happens to be the most incompetent country in all of history, I strongly disagree. This is only a matter of political will. It's only a matter of time until AfD is elected, because successive governments have refused to protect the border. When they're in power, they'll reduce the refugee quota to zero and expel everyone who illegally immigrated. Then they'll restrict migration from countries from which migrants are overrepresented in crime and unemployment. People will cheer.

Germany (and most Western countries) have a few short years to make realistic concessions to their people before AfD and other far right parties take charge entirely. Decide if you want compromise, or the worst possible outcome. Those are your only choices right now.

That's not a dictionary, friend. That's an advocacy website. Do you not understand the distinction?

Merriam-Webster: a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence

Princeton: a person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there

Cambridge: a person who has come to a different country in order to live there permanently

They will have a higher literacy level than someone fleeing Afghanistan. It’s pretty fucking obvious.

For the second time, no one is conflating economic migrants with refugees except you. I'm merely explaining that they're both immigrants, as per all the reputable dictionaries.

I haven't asked them to leave. I'm explaining that being friends and sharing homes with baby-murdering psychopaths makes them bad people.

You appear to be conflating economic migrants with refugees. I expect you to understand that both of those are immigrants. Are you just disagreeing with the English language now that it's not convenient?

That definition of a refugee is perfectly compatible with the definition of a an immigrant. As per the definition, all refugees are immigrants. Not all immigrants are refugees.

Refugees are indeed immigrants.

immigrant: a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence

Biden has confirmed the reports. Is Biden a shill too?

It depends on the nation. The UN collects data. Afghanistan is 62.7% illiterate, for example. Further, Almost all refugees to Denmark have zero Danish language reading and writing skills. They must learn all of these. Slightly more (but shockingly few) have any English reading and writing skills.

Surely it isn't surprising to you that refugees have limited European language skills?

Because supporting people makes things worse?

No. Reducing the capacity of already strained social services makes them worse. WTF is wrong with you that you want to remove social services from struggling people??

Well, I mean, they could stop cutting the heads off babies. That would be a good start, right? Maybe then they could enter peace agreements instead of starting wars, which they've done repeatedly for 70 years.

I also feel the need to provide a history lesson, because Palestinians are not natives. Certainly no more than the Israelis are.

Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.

Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.

Dates:

1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.

1947: Arabs reject the UN partition plan to create a Jewish and Arab state. Wage war against the new nation of Israel. Lose more land than the partition gave them.

1967: Israel wins yet another war against its Arab neighbors, conquering Gaza, the West Bank and Sinai in a defensive war. The Arab League declares the "three no's": No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel. Israel voluntarily hands control of the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism back to the Islamic Waqf, and made it illegal for Jews to pray there.

1979: Israel voluntarily hands the Sinai back to Egypt, returning land conquered in a defensive war.

1993: Israel recognizes the sovereignty of the Palestinian Authority over the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Oslo Accords. Yasser Arafat uses it to support terrorism.

2000: Israel offers Yasser Arafat recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital. Arafat rejects it and launches the Second Intifada.

2005: Israel pulls out of the Gaza Strip, dismantles all its settlements, and forces Jews to leave their homes.

2006: The Palestinian people DEMOCRATICALLY votes hamas into power as its governing body

2008: Israel offers Mahmoud Abbas once again recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital and even offered to dismantle all their settlements. And once again, the Palestinians reject it.

2010-2021: Hamas launches periodic rocket attacks against the state of Israel and builds terror tunnels in order to kidnap and murder Jews while using the people of Gaza as human shields against the IDF.

2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.

One more time in English please :)

We appear to agree about the situation as it is. However you are arguing you wish to make it worse. I, and most Europeans, do not.

Personally, as much as these little things annoy me, the big things just work. Games just work. My hardware just works. Updates just work. Software just works. I never, ever, ever have to open fucking terminal. That alone is worth all the bullshit in the world. I got into an argument the other day with someone who was chastising a Linux user for updating their distro without checking dependencies first. Like doing homework before an update is a normal thing everyone should be expected to do. It's not, and until Linux figures this shit out, it's going to stay niche in the consumer space.

Just to be perfectly clear, I am rooting for Linux to succeed. I think our best chance at this stage is Valve. I suspect the use of immutable SteamOS will begin to creep into the desktop space. Developers will love it because they can build exactly one repo and call it a day. Users will love it because shit will "just work." Yes, we lose some control, but no one will care because the biggest flaws will be gone.

As a German, I call bullshit.

As a Dane, I call bullshit. Show me the stats. Here are ours. Syrian migrants have an employment rate of under 20%. Somali immigrants are under 30%. As you can tell by the same link, their crime rate is astronomical.

As someone from a country where the AfD gains increasing popularity on an almost daily basis, calling "bullshit" rings completely hollow. You clearly have no idea how bad things have become for your average countryman.

Germany's strategy of going all-in on LNG has been a colossal failure, and I do not believe going all-in on any other energy sources is wise. Diversification of energy grids is almost always the best strategy, as it mitigates risks which are as yet unforeseen. Let's build wind and solar, but let's also build nuclear. Worst case scenario Germany has lots of clean energy.

not to mention the fact that the supply chain for uranium (Russia, Niger, China, Kazakhstan, etc) and the security of supply with sufficient cooling water are by no means secure at present and in times of worsening climate change…

Canada and Australia are #2 and #4 producers of uranium. Uranium mining is extremely distributed, and we have no strategic risk of losing access.

Germany has no climate model which predicts desert-like conditions. Even if there were, Germany has a large coastline, and could desalinate sea water for cooling.

Apart from that, nuclear power plants cannot be shut down fast enough and are therefore not realy compatible with an energy mix that is largely based on renewables…

We do not shut down nuclear plants. They are not quick-fire generation. They stay in operation indefinitely, and provide stable power during periods of low sun and wind. They make an excellent complement to renewable grids which are subject to high volatility.

Would you like me to list the 300 reasons a fully renewable grid in Germany is currently impossible?

I do not consider killing Nazis to be genocide. Do you?

People who live in Gaza do not have freedom of movement. They can’t just leave, they need permission from Israel to do so.

The Egyptian border has been open for decades (with intermittent closures, such as right now). They do not require permission from Israel to leave. I encourage you to read up about this on Wikipedia, and review the geography on Google Maps.

Leave to where?

Almost anywhere. Most countries permit Palestinians requesting asylum. 100+ countries by my last count allow Palestinians to immigrate.

Should they be forced to abandon their homes and their families because most of their countrymen are fed up with living in a ghetto and chose to fight back?

No one is forcing them. I'm explaining that if they like living with terrorists, I don't have much sympathy for them. People often proclaim that if there is a Nazi at the table, and 10 other people are sitting there talking to them, there are 11 Nazis at the table. I feel the same way about this. As for "fighting back," are you really arguing that "fighting back" is cutting the heads off babies? You fit right in at that table of Nazis.