Historical_General @ Historical_General @lemmy.world

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Was gonna make a Ghislaine Maxwell joke but stopped myself.

Will do :)

Funny how the one bigotry designed and advertised for women ends up being coopted by shouty men.

I had no idea this was a case. For free!?

Guys, this is fact, also downvotes aren't private.

Well, you argued that it's 'bizarre to quickly jump' into it and interfere.

I'm not sure what your point is here.

Better to be embarrassed temporarily than lose a decade of precious time with your family on stuff that makes you angry on the internet.

You're seeing a person who freely made choices here, perhaps like the gamer, but I see a victim of opportunists on youtube, who may have clicked on something thinking it was benign and unknowingly let autoplay and the recommendations algorithm fry their brain.

You probably think the gamer situation is different because they, unlike the boomer, are aware of what's happening and are stuck in a trap of their own making. And yes, in such a situation, I'd talk it out with them before I did anything since they're clearly (in some ways) more responsible for their addiction, even though iirc some people do have a psychological disposition that is more vulnerable that way.

edit: I want to clarify that I do care about privacy, it's just that in these cases of older angry relatives (many such cases), I prioritise mental health.

Yeah, we all see his extremely punchable face. Simultaneously blond and ginger and rat-like. It's a big reason I'm off reddit.

Nobody said this had to be an instant/quick reaction to anything. If you can see that somebody has 'chosen' to fall into a rabbithole and self destruct, becoming an angrier, more hateful (bigoted) and miserable person because of algorithms, dark patterns and unnatural infinite content spirals, I'd recognise that it isn't organic or human-made but in fact done for the profit motive of a large corporation, and do the obvious thing.

If you're on Lemmy because you hate billionaire interference in your life why allow it to psychologically infect your family far more insidiously on youtube?

Wondering if a qanon person would be offended at you deradicalise them seems like overthinking - it's certainly possible, but most likely fine to do anyway. The only cases where you'd think twice is if something similar has happened before and if this person has a pattern of falling into bad habits/cultish behaviour in the past. In which case you have a bigger problem on your hands or just a temporary one.

Well, I assume neither you or I are psychologists that can determine what one person may or may not do. However these algorithms are confirmed to be dangerous left unchecked on a mass level - e.g. the genocide in Burma that occurred with the help of FB.

Ultimately if I had a relative in those shoes, I'd want to give them the opportunity to be the best person they can be, not a hateful, screen-addicted crazy person. These things literally change their personality in the worst cases. Not being proactive is cowardly/negligient on the part of the person with the power to do it imo.

Just stay away from bbc news politics coverage of the uk, it's dogshit, almost as bad as the tabloids. world coverage and other fun stuff is fine.

Delete watch history, find and watch nice channels and her other interests, log in to the account on a spare browser on your own phone periodically to make sure there's no repeat of what happened.

Ooh, you can even set the app to open automatically to the subscription feed rather than the algo driven home. The app does probably need somebody knowledgable about using the app patcher every half-dozen months to update it though.

Really? That seems far-fetched. Various people in the family specifically want you not to mess with their technology? ??

If the algorithm is causing somebody to become a danger to others and potentially themselves, I'd expect in their right state of mind, one would appreciate proactive intervention.

eg. archive.is/https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/12/fox-news-brain-meet-the-families-torn-apart-by-toxic-cable-news

OP can make sure this continues by logging into youtube on private mode/non chrome web browser/revanced YT app using their login and effectively remotely monitor the algorithm.

(A non chrome browser that you don't use is best so that you keep your stuff seperate, otherwise google will assume your device is connected to the account which can be potentially messy in niche cases).

It gives you remote self-sucking capabilities.

Orwell was a snitch anyway.

I've read half, I'll read the rest in time for part 2.

Iirc proton mail has a backdoor. Though they likely won't be used outside of 'nať-sećurity interests'.