GlitterInfection @ GlitterInfection @lemmy.world

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Lets ruin it so they can't!

First, sorry I misunderstood your ACAB statement. It's an unhelpful modlog comment to get, especially in a ban comment. Your experience sounds similar to OP's and my response was rude to not acknowledge that.

I've been more responding to the upstream comment that "lemmy has a chance to be worse on this."

What drove OP away from reddit wasn't just that moderators abused their power. It was that abuse plus the complete lack of feedback and/or rude feedback.

I didn't pick my phrasing carefully before as I meant to argue that lemmy only has the chance to be the same or better due to the modlog. Specifically it offers an option of transparency in moderation that reddit doesn't.

Lemmy still has people who abuse power as mods. And it clearly has rude feedback as an option as you experienced. But for when it's used appropriately that is better than what reddit can offer.

The original comment also claimed that reporting to the instance admin is your only recourse. But creating an account on another instance is a more drastic option that OP can take on lemmy and it's not available on reddit.

And instance admins can use the federation system to block instances that aren't compatible with their values or for other reasons.

My ultimate reasoning for arguing any of this is two parts.

• Lemmy is confusing sometimes with the features it offers above the reddit experience not being self explanatory.
• It felt like this thread was trying to scare OP away and I'd rather let OP know what's here and hope for the best for them

I agree from a general fuck lawns perspective. I hope to never rake another leaf or mow another blade of grass in my life.

In the context of my argument, though, I'm complaining about the propaganda tactic involved. They're manipulating the public by using a subject that brings up outrage already (lawns are bad is part of it, but the bigger part is pitting the poor against the not as poor but definitely not really wealthy) in order to draw attention away from the real issue.

Except on reddit you don't even know you're banned half the time, and have no way to find out.

All of what you're describing happens on reddit and you wouldn't even know for sure if your ACAB comment was the thing that got you banned.

I'm not saying that it's fixed here. But it is improved more or less compared to reddit.

Because the problem OP experienced involves not knowing what's going on and nobody believed them.

It's amazing how context matters on these things, because I was pretty peeved for her when I saw the original article.

Her comment feels a little callous and manipulative with this context, but I am going to give the benefit of the doubt that she didn't have these details when she made her post.

With internet goats!

Easiest argument against this is that AI is intelligent. It's literally in the name!

We're talking about rogue moderators, though. Instances have their own separate moderation rules and that's the intent behind how things are organized in the fediverse.

What OP experienced on reddit can't happen here due to modlogs, and rogue moderation usually is called out here publicly.

Consistent issues with an instance also have the defederation option.

There are for sure problems with this all, but I wouldn't say that rogue moderation is as easy here as it was on reddit.

But mod actions are also available in the modlog, aren't they?

I haven't been here that long, but I've seen people question moderator activity a few times in ways that are not options on reddit at all.

In California only 10% of our water use is by consumers. A ridiculous amount of our water goes into crops that we sell to China allowing those farms to turn our water into massive profits!

During droughts here our leaders tell us to not take long showers and to not flush as often. They even pushed restaurants to stop serving water without being asked first.

And you see lots of stories about the horrible homeowners who dare to water their lawns! Oh what a wonderful distraction from the issue that one is from the fact that no amount of consumer changes can make a difference and small restrictions on corporations would solve the problem entirely!

You can't accuse Epic of enshittifying their store. It was enshit all along!

Sometimes people have different opinions on tech stuff so I'm hesitant to block people for opinions I disagree with...

But I also saw some posts that you're talking about OP. You linked one up thread that had come to mind. That user's post history is super suspect. With people pointing out their shill-like qualities 6 months ago in response to Meta propaganda links.

Instance blocking is, I believe, the reason stated that our instance hasn't signed the pact that OP linked.

That aligns with my values, honesty, because it lets me make the choice for myself.

I find the pact-shaming to be kinda gross. But Meta as a company is truly disgusting, so I at least understand it.

I feel like my usage pattern isn't bothered by that, but I understand.

I feel that way about the "sports" section on Apple News. It's in the way, and they've moved so far from the magazines thing which is all I like that it feels like they don't value me as a user of that specific App.

Really I just hate Apple News for so many reasons and I want to love it.

I don't mind that last one truthfully, but I use Apple Arcade sometimes. I hate in app purchases enough to tolerate the paltry selection.

But that's fair on the other two points.

It would be more fair to say that they approached the problems that need to be solved in federation with different priorities than ActivityPub.

People on ActivityPub based networks seem to want more independent niche communities with their own control over the community's content.

The AT protocol makes it so that the users, themselves, are able to control their content.

Philosophically it's an alternative to the Nostr protocol more than ActivityPub, and I don't know that you could wedge their prioritized solutions into this protocol's ecosystem.

While practically there are limitations to Bluesky federation (the cost of running a general purpose relay is not likely to be user supported), there is only one piece of their tech stack that currently is centralized (as far as I'm aware).

Sadly itself the ID generation and authentication portion.

And I wish we had a solution to that problem in the ActivityPub fediverse. There is no way to keep yourself if your instance is shut down, so you don't have any control over yourself as a user.

If that problem were solved in a way that still enabled communities the way we do I would prefer it to any of the current options.

What are some piracy apps that have gotten through?

My biggest complaint is all the apps without recurring costs that are subscription-based.

It has gotten challenging to find good and useful apps that aren't just a bunch of the worst dark patterns mixed together these days.

How would you say the App store is a nightmare?

It's weird to see "this company is a family" being spun as a good thing and posted to lemmy without objection.