Glide @ Glide @lemmy.ca

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This is so much more reason that these tankies deserve tbh. I appreciate you taking the time to put it into words.

These people should actually try talking to foreigners, students and immigrants. The picture Ukrainian refugees and Taiwanese students paint is a lot less forgiving than the completely unsubstantiated, pseudo-intellectuslist "but that's CIA propaganda" arguments these authoritarian "leftists" like to throw around. I'm sure such first-hand accounts would be as readily dismissed, mind you, because the goal is clearly not to have an honest discussion to begin with.

What conclusion are you proposing that I came to? My only statement was that denying Western media in favor of Eastern media is not "leftist." Everything else you and Deadlines have attempted to drag into this discussion is creating either a false dichotomy or a strawman, in some cases both. The options are not "either you listen to PoC or you listen to Western Media," because not all Western Media nor people of colour agree on every position. Whatever imaginary propaganda you are creating about the State suggesting that China is torturing minorities this minute is not something I have experienced, nor referenced. We have not presented the arguments that you are trying to deconstruct.

You are boxing with shadows, throwing fists with invisible monsters in the dark. I'm not sure if it's our of poor reading comprehension, poor critical thinking skills, or intentional dishonesty, but there's clearly a bias here that is useless to engage with.

No one said I do.

So instead, we should trust... The other ogliarchic and blatantly fascist empires?

Call me crazy, but I don't think unapologetic fascism is "leftist."

Either that or engaging with such incredible lies is a waste of time. But hey, they said something you don't like, so "red lib."

What if I told you there's room to do the things you deem masculine, things you deem feminine, and still identify as yourself? People like Zuckerburg speaking like he has everything figured out when he can't even deconstruct a false dichotomy is some peak pseudo-intellectualism.

If I can, and it's clean, I always prefer to sit down to piss. I just want a break, man. Leave me alone for 5.

Kinda hype. Had my eye on this one for a while. I'm a little cautious what "early access" means in this regard, though. I've had altogether too many rogue-likes release into early access without enough content to justify it.

I understand, facing the truth is scary when you've attached your ego to lies. I'm sure whatever Internet safe space you found your way here from can help you feel justified. Have a good one.

We 1000% can.

Destroying the only widespread source of information that isn't centralized in the hands of American ogliarchs is immediately worse, and that's literally just the beginning.

I mean, there you have it. Your options are currently the American owned PostMedia, or the CBC. Meanwhile, Poilievere targets literally the only remaining Canada owned media company nation wide, while claiming to put Canada first.

The hypocrisy is naked and shameless, yet we're looking at a CPC majority under his leadership? There has got to be a better option.

I'm always interested in conversations about opinions contradictory to my own, but I do not need to suffer direct insults to my character.

I'm not obligated to go backwards through your entire post history, particularly if it's filled with the kind of vitriol present in this conversation. I don't need to sift through intellectually void shit in the misguided belief that maybe, there's a nugget of gold in there. If you feel like you made a clear, succinct statement in post to someone else, in some other thread, a two second copy paste of something you know you said, or a link as I usually do, is all that's necessary. If you don't want to do that, not responding, or saying you're too exhausted by and/or don't care about this conversation is plenty.

Your desire to continually speak with such disdain towards anyone who disagrees with you, and your unwillingness to approach conversation with civility says a lot more than your words. Either you don't want to be understood and this conversation isn't in good faith, or you have no idea what actually upsets you. You're just repeating the same baseless, vapid talking points you've been spoon-fed, and I've begun to suspect that the goal here is just to spread hate.

If I wanted repitition, I'd be plenty satisfied by now. Hilariously, and ironically, despising politicians with no true understanding of what they've done or why is a very uniquely Canadian position, so I'd argue that our culture is alive and well.

With every bit of respect as a human being, and none as a thinker, please take your misinformed, poorly reasoned opinion back into whatever safe-space echo chamber allowed it to ferment in the first place. Or, recognize that most people will not share your identical thoughts, and you might have to figure out how to treat others with respect as you work to understand each other. Your pick.

I'm not talking about weed, though. It's been traditionally over policed but that doesn't mean we should stop policing all drugs. There's hardly any sense in saying that severely addictive drugs with visible negative effects on the human body should be sold for recreational use for profit. The majority of opiods are a good example of this.

But more to the point, giving moral purchase to profit justifies the abuse of the consumer. I can't say for certain whether the TikTok ban is government overreach, as I'm not knowledgeable enough on the topic to speak with any authority, but "it makes money, so it's fine" really shouldn't be the end of the conversation.

A platform should be allowed to function if it can. If it's horribly made, or supremely unprofitable it'll find its own way out.

I mean, this doesn't allow for any form of ethical analysis, though. Should every drug be legalized? How about gambling?

I'm not saying I am for the TikTok ban persay, but if the only conditionals for whether a product or service should exist are "is it 'well made' and does it make money," we are setting ourselves up to achieve a corporate dystopia rather quickly.

They government should consider what parts of TikTok make it not okay, and target those forms and functions with well reasoned laws. Unfortunately, as you said, I suspect they'll target things that are good and users like, while pretending that the issue is entirely about one small portion of the complete law. Ie, stress that the issue is one of security, and then write a law saying that all social media in the US must be willing to submit it's data to the American government. (To be clear, I have no idea what the actual law they wrote is, but this is the kind of shit I expect them to get up to )

When you've built your entire political personality around being "not that guy" and that guy drops out of the race.

I guess I just assume you're a troll and move on with my life. At least I can say I tried to understand. Have a good one.

You certainly have not explained anything beyond showing a vague hatred for the government, and a deeply held belief that they're somehow responsible for killing any sense of a national body. Perhaps you've explained yourself in detail in another conversation, but I was certainly not aware of it.

Maybe I can ask more directly: What do you think makes Canada uniquely Canada? Ignoring the whos, whys and hows, what do you believe we have lost, culturally speaking?

You've got a lot of vague disdain for the state of Canada, but offer next to nothing when it comes to specific issues. Who is "they," and what culture is it that you perceive "they" have taken from us?

Right, my anti-nationalism spiels goes both ways. I don't think we should feel a personal sense of shame for the things others who came before us have done. But that lack of personal shame doesn't take away being responsible for the future. I've been advantaged by my forefathers at the loss of others, and that makes me responsible for using that advantage to give back. That is not the same as feeling shame for the circumstances of my birth.

Even outside of politics, I tend to preach a philosophy of accountability, but not blame. Blame is "I should have done better," while accountability is "I can and will do better."