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Which is funny because he's fully aware Linux players would be happy without any support beyond "enable EAC to work for us" but he'd rather try to spin it as a difficult decision he really doesn't want to make. Just enable it Tim, I'm sure Valve devs would put in the work to make Fortnite work well on the Deck.

I can see how my initial reply could be read as a random rant by a Valve fanboy since, well, these people exist. I do hope I'm wrong and this turns into another major player pushing Linux to the forefront as well. Time will tell.

I was mostly thinking about ones that can play PC games as Android ones are kind of their own thing. Box86 seems like an interesting project but I'm wondering how feasible it is for a project like this - do you have any experience with it and if so, is there any noticeable performance hit when playing?

I'm certainly interested in the possible power efficiency improvements coming from such project so I hope my initial response turns out to be just an unreasonable wariness when this thing comes out. All we can do is wait for now, I guess.

As another user already mentioned, you only need desktop mode to install/add them as non-steam game.

Other that that yeah, it IS nitpicky and I agree Valve needs competition. It's just... if your pitch starts with misrepresenting said competition ("Steam Deck is locked to Valveverse"), promising improbable ("Fortnite on linux" when we know the Tim Sweeney hates it and already said supporting linux would be too much work), stealing content to show a proof of concept (Witcher 3 video) and have someone like McCaster as one of the members just doesn't instill confidence in me.

I really hope I'm being too cautious and cynical about this but it's on them to ease those worries, not on me to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Ah, thanks for correcting me. I've seen Steam OS being described as immutable but never dug into it to confirm. Lesson learned.

It kind of feels like they're just throwing out various buzzwords to catch everyone - "it'll be like the Nintendo approach but they really want input from power users", "it'll work on anything and everything" etc. Maybe I'm just being a bit too cynical... ╮( ˘ ､ ˘ )╭

I've got some points about this one.

• they pitch a "deck that could actually play Fortnite" - game from a company who's CEO actively hates linux for whatever reason (maybe it kicked his dog, I dunno)
• they talk how games bought on stores other than Steam will be "first-class citizens" which... you can already do on Steam Deck
• they promote being free of hackers/cheaters because of immutable file system... something Steam Deck also has (though they do mention some additional digital signatures)
• they want to be not only on handhelds but everywhere (laptops, tablets, phones, TV, cars...) - pretty ambitious for a company that didn't deliver anything yet
• it'll be running on an ARM processor - we'll see how this works out (has anyone tried making a handheld like this?)
• already mentioned no desktop mode - why is this mentioned as a positive exactly?
• they want help from linux power users (feature requests, contribute code) but they don't know how open-source they want to be
• they stole Witcher 3 video from some dude on YouTube

I'd like to think these are just screw ups/growing pains but nothing I've seen so far gives me any good vibes about it. We definitely need more choice and competition - this however does not look like an honest attempt at that. Let's hope I'm wrong.

Edit: Ah, how could I forget! Kirt McMaster, CEO of Playtron and the man responsible for killing CyanogenMod. Sounds great...

Here's the video.

I actually thought the same while watching this trailer. I hope some of it is just an issue with how it was cut rather than the game itself but as always, better wait and see how it turns out.

Of course, but I think it's a bit harder to defend this accusation with all of this info available and the ability to try the game for yourself for free. The latter is what I'd suggest to anyone interested in the game, even if they aren't worried about wasting money anyway.

Which is why I appreciate them doing free flight events. They don't present the game in the best light a lot of the time but it's a great way to test if the game is for you in it's current form (or even in general). They are also a good way to prevent new players from feeling scammed so there's that.

I feel like a lot of us backed and stayed with this project despite all of the issues exactly because they're trying to do something no one else is willing to risk. It's a rough road, full of mistakes and delays but they're sticking with it, which is more than many people expected.

On the contrary, the last few years were pretty much fully focused on Squadron, with SC being maintained by (almost a) skeleton crew - hence the slow updates.

Now updates are seemingly picking up, though it's early to say for sure since we only got one quarterly patch so far, with next one probably targeting April-May (depending how porting some of new additions goes).

Except scope hasn't really changed in years? I might be wrong since I'm not trawling through every single piece of content released but I'm pretty sure most of the expansions are related to CIG figuring out details of already promised features.

I'm sure someone following the game closer can provide more details on that.

Some people think trying to "defend" the project means I completely agree with how and what is being done so I'm just trying to cover my bases.

Eh, let's not act like CIG is completely blameless in all of this. They made a lot of mistakes along the way and SC is still far from what they promised it to be.

They're getting there, but it's a slow process.

Just to clarify, which roadmap are we talking about?

• The changes to the release view from last year or so?
• One from CitizenCon after addition of full planet exploration?
• One from the early days where SC was suppose to be a prettier Freelancer with planets separated by a loading screen and consisting of a small hub for activities?

I'd like to make sure which one we're talking about.

Edit: I'd also like to add, how far are we going with people being scammed?

I can understand this view for early backers (I'm one of them) but what about people who decided to drop money on the game in the last 2 or even 5 years? Were they also scammed despite hundreds of articles about delays, issues and thousands of people yelling about a scam every time SC is mentioned?

I absolutely agree with this point. I think CIG's inability to openly communicate when things go bad is a big reason for the scam allegation (that and loooooots of issues with planning, especially early on). I see it's as a serious problem for a project that presents itself as "open development" (which it is, don't take me wrong, but not as much as it should be).

I think both CIG and players underestimated how long it takes to build a company, tech and two big budget games at the same time. It's 100% on the devs to realize and communicate that, which they failed to do.

For better or worse, S42 is officially in its final stretch. Is it really? Transfer of people towards SC seems to confirm that but we'll see when the game finally releases. When that happens we'll also see whether game taking this long was worth it.

For those wondering about why such basic features are mentioned here it's because work on Squadron 42 (single player part of the project) moved to the polishing stage and everything created for it is being ported back to Star Citizen (multi player part).

Is it worth an article? It is if you're interested in the game, I guess?

Is SC a perfect project? Of course not, far from it. I do find it interesting however how... angry it makes people and how much they want it to fail. Yeah, I know $1000+ packages and so forth (not needed if you just want to play the game btw).

For those interested in actually checking for themselves whether it's a scam or not, there are free flight events multiple times a year - you get to see the current state of the game with everything good and bad it entails. Surprisingly enough, they tend to bring in more players every single time.

I mean... I love Ms. Toriyumi Maya so there's no need to defend him. Besides, everyone is a dog on the internet after all.

For licensed series, physical copies or official app will obviously be the most fair option to support the authors and I absolutely I agree it should be used when possible.

Otherwise, websites yes - specifically Mangadex since it's the most popular website of this kind. I suggested the PWA route (i.e. using "add to home screen" option in mobile browser) since that can be a simpler or preferred solution for some.

It could also be Ken or the original MC considering his hermit social link. Man does Persona love their age-difference tag.