Eldritch @ Eldritch @lemmy.world

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As always, it's hilarious that you think everyone else is the one ignoring anything. That's a nice straw man built there and it's nothing I've ever espoused or championed. The simple fact is when it comes to National presidential elections it is unfortunately a binary choice and you do have to choose between fascist and fascist light. That or just accept that you're going to have fascist. That's the simple point you always ignore. Why we spend so much time lecturing you. When you just get all pissy about it I don't know. I guess it's fun sometimes.

While we must hold our noses and do this for national presidential elections. We've never had to and I've never advocated for doing that at the local and state level. In fact far from it. I constantly advocate for taking over State parties and building them up. Or building completely new state parties to run people at the state and local level. But that's what you always ignore.

Yes we absolutely need an independent nonpartisan group like the League of Women Voters back. All these fake journalists fretting over access to fascists. Afraid to offend or contradict them don't serve anyone but the fascists.

And this is also why we need to tear down the National Party and build up local parties. That way when you're pissed with them you can go stand outside their office and raise hell. You don't have to hire someone to go to a Washington for you where all these guys are insulated

You don't have to in state or local elections. I've always told people to vote for whoever stands the best chance of winning no matter what party they're from as long as they keep the fascist out. But when it comes to National presidential elections mathematically you have to. It's just a fact.

The DNC shouldn't exist. Democrats job is to legislate. Not excite or energize anyone. Politics isn't supposed to be life or death or exciting. It's supposed to be banal and boring. The more boring the better.

And it's freaking hilarious to watch you still flailing. You already admitted you voted for Harris just as I and many other people like myself. Yet you defend the sensationalist one-sided coverage and people pushing it against Harris.

If you've got this long-term plan let's hear it. If I was a betting man my money would be on you don't have anything other than the boiler plate.

if everyone just magically voted for my candidate things would magically be better.

And look I'll even go first. My long-term plan is to end the relevance of national parties. To work with them only as long as we must to keep Republicans and outright fascists from office, due to current realities. While getting people elected to change those realities. They are not our friends but the unfortunate truth is we need each other. Further we need to work on not being so gullible as to amplify the propaganda of our enemies. Regardless of who they are. Your turn. Got anything besides accelerationism?

I keep seeing so many people who claim to be on the left saying Democrats could win if they just supported us. Which sounds great. But then one has to wonder. Have we shown them that? We need to be the ones to bring the fight to the democrats. We've passively and complacently let National parties consolidate power for Generations now. And yet we pretend to be confused of when they don't represent us for some reason.

As someone reasonably autistic that has to mask a significant amount to get through the day. I'm not candidate material. But I would I.T. the fuck out of shit for a local campaign willing to show local and National Democrats how to fight.

The question is. If you got to choose between the two. Which would you choose. Democrats are awful, but imagine how nice it would have been for nothing to happen. Ukraine and Palestine not become worse. Our allies not alienated. Roving squads of redcaps not on the street kidnapping innocent people, AND THEN FORCING THE PUBLIC TO PAY FOR THEIR BONDAGE IN A FORIEGN NATION. DENIED JUSTICE. Nothing, man; what a dream.

The voters are as much to blame as the dnc. Stop trying to push all the blame on to them. So which is it and be clear. Am i only concerned about short-term shit. Or is this shit meaningful and you're just flip-flopping wildly. Twisting in the wind trying to pin everything on Democrats and nothing on you or anyone else like you.

Ideally, absolutely. Realistically I don't think they care about a record of their crimes. They're committing them in Broad daylight. And daring anyone to do anything about it. There will be plenty to record whether or not any impeachment is pushed. If it can mean action can be put somewhere to make a real difference I'm all for it. Yes I'd like to see all the crimes cataloged etc. But that is getting to be a Herculean task at this point. They commit them like breathing. Two things they shouldn't do.

Are you implying that the kidnappings torture and persecution are only short-term? Do you not understand that we will have to win back our basic rights at this point. Not just for our immigrant friends and family, but all minorities? That seems a really obtuse and uninformed viewpoint. Which I'm hoping it's just a misunderstanding on my part. And that that's not your actual stance. This shit is serious and not short-term. We will be suffering this for Generations.

I mean unless you have some Surefire non-vanguardist radical action in your pocket or something.

100%. Fix food deserts first. Then worry about what snap can buy. Anything else is putting the cart before the horse and stupid. Which coming from RFK tracks 1,000%

On the one hand I'm furious. On the other hand it's absolutely understandable seeing how infested things are with fascists right now. That it would have really only been for show. And that effort might be more effective elsewhere. There is going to be some effort somewhere right? Guys? Guys!?

Not committing self harm isn't equivalent to Moving Mountains etc. This is the whole problem with that standpoint. Yes the genocides that the United States Russia and China are committing are inexcusable. They were also not actually on the ballot. There was no one who stood a chance of getting elected that was going to make those better. But there was one that vowed to make things worse. And they won. Like many of us said they would. There is no single one group that deserves credit for that victory. But the margin of votes was with in single digit percentage. It wasn't moving a mountain.

I'm not here to accuse you of being happy with the outcome. But can you admit that you might have been taken advantage of. That your sincere Ernest desire to see things fixed may have been manipulated and taken advantage of to your own detriment and the determent of people you care about. Because I can tell you 100% that fascists, leninists, and other groups absolutely we're stirring the pot. Not caring about who got hurt.

I have no problem with anyone talking to them and trying to de program any of those groups. What I do have a problem with, are people repeating propaganda and being manipulated by these groups to get everyone hurt. We are here.

As an anarchist I wish to see all national parties disbanded and abolished. Democrat, republican, green, libertarian, vanguard. And you're not wrong that a lot of this has been going on since and including FDR. He should have actually tried and hung everyone found guilty of being involved with the business plot. Instead of making backroom deals to get Social Security Etc passed. Something which the people he spared set about immediately after it's passage, gutting it.

The sad thing is, that Democrats deny their role in the failure, just as many of the so-called people on the left who spent so much time attacking them. But as they say success has many fathers, while failure is a bastard.

Heroic is freaking awesome. I never had much luck with lutris though it's been a long time since I ever tried it. With heroic. I use it to manage all the free games I get through the Epic store and Amazon over 700 now. And it works on both windows and Linux flawlessly for the most part. With the check of a setting it will even add games to steam for you so if you just leave it running in the background you can start and play games through Steam just like they were installed there.

Yes it absolutely can. Here's hoping he continues down that path.

That's generally my understanding as well at this point. That and he's had a child. And seems to be making a somewhat serious attempt at parenting. And perhaps starting to look at a lot of this stuff through the eyes of a father

I didn't say he was mature. I said he's matured a little bit. I absolutely agree he should probably make some decent public apologies for the stupid s*** he's done / said. But by the same token. When people do make progress no matter how small it is we can acknowledge it.

Tasteless, immature, edgelord, yes. Actual fascist/Nazi, I don't think so. I've never really watched his content. And I will say this. From what I've seen in recent years, he seems to have matured a bit.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

While I agree. I would still feel bad about cancer for having him.

Honestly without knowing the context something like that actually would be easy to slip by. It's absolutely simple to think of any campaign saying we need to find X votes in this region to win. Though usually we would just think they're talking about actually winning votes and not just whipping them up out of thin air or disenfranchising others to get them.

And remember again. That wasn't in the media very long at all. It was even more of a blip than anything related to January 6th. Republicans and fascists can keep a line in the public Consciousness for decades. Democrats can't even stay focused on the truth and pushing it. For more than a month or two. Of course it's really easy to perpetuate a message and control it when you control the media and Outlets that people get it from. So Democrats are always going to be at a disadvantage. Even if they did try.

Honestly I'm not sure what an actual good solution is to this problem. About the best I can think of right now is everyone should be friends with a good poli-size student when it comes to politics or someone involved in research science when it comes to science Etc. To help temper their understanding and cut through a lot of sensationalist b******* that gets put out there