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3 days ago: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68960585.amp

Because Hamas terrorists are firing rockets out of it. Could you explain to me why they're doing that and risking the their own citizens there?

I never said Hamas was not in Rafah. In fact that's the opposite of what I said. I did say it was designated a safe zone. Now they're moving the safe zone to a new area and the people with it.

Quoting a couple extremist politicians and claiming is the entire government is like saying the entire US government is subservient to Russia just because Trump sucks Putin's dick.

Hell, some of the Arab politicians in the Israeli government might give you quotes on quite the opposite of the narrative you're driving.

Nah, he's got to go, but the amount of misinformation about anything related to Israel is absolutely ridiculous. Especially in places like lemmy, where you have 3-5 people flooding the whole place with propaganda that's then lapped up by people who get all their news from lemmy posts.

Normal human beings don't mix the racist idea of guilt by association with such a cold calous disregard for the lives of children.

You're right, that's mostly reserved for how Hamas behaves.

I think you've been reading too much AJ. Wait until you find out about that dam on the Jordan river.

Oh right, instigators with holy leaders that say murdering Jews will get you to heaven, and government officials that pay your family using international funds if you go and kill Jews. Oh wait.

You're also incapable of acknowledging that both sides have civilians which needs protection.

Sure they need protection. One government does all they can to protect their civilians, the other stripped them of resources and instead choose to go attacking others using those same resources needed for life.

Where and how did you learn what you know?

I kept reading on and did more research to get the actual facts of the situation, not just stop at the surface level.

You could argue plenty of things, doesn't mean you're right.

It's almost as if they negotiations are on going and this article is just a media outlet trying to get clicks and a narrative going without any concrete info to report on.

That's great fiction you're writing there. Too bad you show no actual understanding of the region. It's almost as if you get your info from outlets peddling anti-Israel hate, since their governments failed to wipe it and all the people in it off the map repeatedly.

So nobody there are terrorists? They're all innocent civilians that some of which just happen to have rockets.

Hamas agreed to conditions that were not what Israel put forth. That means they refused to accept those conditions.

Oh very easily. I said Hamas is shooting rockets out of there, and your immediate reaction is "so what IDF killed more people than Hamas, so it's fine"

How many people have been killed by those rockets vs. how many children killed by the IDF?

Right there, you made it clear that unless both sides suffered deaths, it's okay for one side to do things that you then comdemn the others for.

Gaza needs to be abide by the ceasefire

Hamas has a long track record of breaking ceasfires. Their demands usually include releasing terrorists that were caught trying to murder civilians within Israel in exchanges that are 1000+:1 with hostages/bodies they hold. For those who aren't just tuning in just for this latest conflict, this isn't exactly news worth even mentioning until an actual deal is struck.

Yeah, but headlines like this are just plain misleading. Hamas agreed to conditions that weren't the ones put forth by Israel. That means it's effectively meaningless, since we don't know how much the terms were altered.

An official familiar with Israeli thinking said Israeli officials were examining the proposal, but the plan approved by Hamas was not the framework Israel proposed.

So Hamas accepted a proposal that was not proposed by Israel, effectively making this meaningless. Hamas will also accept proposals for Israel to stop existing, doesn't mean that will happen either.