Chapelgentry @ Chapelgentry @lemmynsfw.com

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Don't worry about EleventhHour. They live to argue with anyone over stupid things. They're trolling just to get a rise out of you.

The electoral system will be fixed if Trump wins. He will just dissolve it and end the election process. Voila! Reform!

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Yeah so the message so far has been carte Blanche vote third party. None of the nuance you're displaying here is evident in 99% of these 3rd party posts. They're all "genocide BAD, vote 3rd party or you're COMPLICIT!" so the message here isnt what you're saying.

Secondly, applying your logic regarding wasted effort because your state is solid blue, telling others to write their congresspeople on the issue is equally useless. Throwing the onus on them is shortsighted. The, "what have YOU done" argument doesn't really hold water with anyone, particularly when many people reside in a solid red or blue state

Finally, voting 3rd party sends "a" message after the election, not during, and no candidate ever looks back at the election results to ask Greenies why they didn't vote for them. They do canvassing before and during, and quite frankly they have to walk a tightrope between courting lefties and every other single-issue voter. Imagine you're running and you have Greenies yelling about genocide, women's rights yelling about bodily autonomy, and LGBTQ folks yelling about equality and all three don't give a flying fuck about the others. What would you do? Exactly what Harris is doing - courting the biggest blocs of voters.

I'm not gonna touch on the general laziness of my compatriots, but when I went to early vote at my precinct there were a lot of people voting straight ticket, so I don't think most people will dig through ballots to send that message. Frankly, Trump in power means nothing for down ballot votes because he still installs a fascist regime.

I think it's the 3rd party voters here that are implying that.

This is such a backward comment I don't know where to start. Tortured logic, the fact that voting 3rd party doesn't send the specific message you're looking to send, or perhaps that it's all Harris' fault that she lost while ignoring everything about outside election interference including Stein's ties to Russia and conservatives all in one post. Bonus points for projecting that a large death of her base cares solely about Gaza and would be willing to suffer fascism instead.

Can't wait until these astroturfing accounts are retired after the election.

How so?

Who controls the House? That's a better barometer of change but having a supportive president is paramount. Either have control of the house and overwhelming control of the Senate, or enough control of both that a friendly President signs the bill into law.

Why hasn't Biden done it already? Mike Johnson.

Is there a single post in your history where you don't spew absolut bullshit?

Every post of yours is unfounded garbage about how Democrats are complicit or working with the GOP to do some nefarious thing.

Here's an unfounded claim for you: you're full of shit and a foreign agent trying to sway votes for fascism.

Yeah let's downplay EVERYTHING ELSE she's campaigned on and redefine democratic excitement to be focused solely on Palestine, and yeah you're right.

You know I voted for Harris.

Sure, bud. I know I can't verify that but I doubt it. You wouldn't wholly support genocide like you're accusing others of, would you? 🙄

What a lazy take.

Man, I feel like this comment doesn't take the election process in America into account. Sure you could vote 3rd party and have a clean conscience, but it's at the cost of the worst of two options gaining power.

Agree to disagree then. Thanks for the exchange.

To be clear - the "leftists" I mentioned above aren't really leftists. Next time I'll add the /s next to it to be clear. The whole point of the post was to call out bad faith actors.

Then you came in missing the point.

Now as I understand it, you're suggesting I word my posts better so you catch the sarcasm?

Nah, fam. Thanks though.

Thanks for telling me what my point was, dipshit.

Yeah, super ignorant take that purported lefties on Lemmy are playing spoiler under the guise of condemning genocide.

The post was for astroturfing fucks on Lemmy. Way to miss the point.

Absolutely no disagreement there. I don't condone genocide, and think we should do something about it but I'm not foolish enough to think not voting for the lesser of two evils accomplishes this. We are in agreement.

C'mon enlightened lefties! Come on and tell me how you won't be voting for genocide and we should follow so the Democrats figure out through losing the election that they should court lefties. Nevermind we get 4 years of, "he's doing a good job" as long as Democrats learn to denounce genocide.

C'mon you fucking cowards, get in here and sell me on how Trump winning helps solve your single issue voting on genocide.

Yeah alright fam. Whatever floats your boat.