Chapelgentry @ Chapelgentry @lemmynsfw.com

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It's pretty straightforward - if they vote for Trump and Trump gives Israel the go ahead to wipe out all Palestinians then the ones here that voted for that got what they asked for. Pretty simple.

Nope.

If they don't vote for anyone then I understand and sympathize. If they vote for ultra-genocide to spite Democrats then they get what they asked for.

Man, fuck off with this partisan bullshit

Whew the tankies and astroturfers are out in force in these comments. I think we got the gamut going here:

1. "I don't vote for genocide"
2. "A vote for 3rd party isn't a vote for Trump"
3. "If we don't vote 3rd party nothing will change"
4. "Jill Stein isn't a Russian asset"
5. "Who cares if Trump wins; they're both bad / nothing worse will happen l both sides"
6. "I literally don't understand how Trump can win if I vote 3rd party because I don't understand the difference between voting for and against a candidate"
7. "Liberals / Democrats / Harris voters are the real fascists"

Solid work astroturfers! Glad to see you're still trotting out these arguments despite plenty of Lemmy users discrediting each and every one. Really shows grit and dedication.

Also, calling it now that at least one of them replies with something about how they're true / haven't been discredited.

From my experience in my very red state, there's a high degree of cognitive dissonance when it comes to those things. A family friend who's very religious is secretly undergoing IVF even though the church banned it's use because they want a child more than the threat of excommunication. Supposedly they'll be forgiven for going against the church since they're "fundamentally good" people.

Don't come to Lemmy for math proofs, particularly in a political conversation. What an obtuse statement.

Great deduction skills there.

Sure, you can't literally steal a vote, but either you're unfamiliar with American colloquialisms or being deliberately obtuse. It's a term that describes exactly what you're doing here - actively trying to convince people to vote against something using deception.

Yes, you're being deceptive by trying to drive democratic voters to split their vote so the right wins. I have yet to see you make a single good faith argument here.

You need 270 Electoral College votes to prevent the vote going to the states for the Presidency. There are 538 votes available. The only way to have more than two parties compete and have the election not go to the House is if one party is unified and has large public support against the other parties that do not. This essentially creates a single-party state.

Ergo, our system is designed to have two parties, each with roughly half the population behind them. Anything more mathematically ends in a single party state.

"Mary hat hey lid tell lam, ids fleas woes white has know"

Oh that's way down by Terre Haute. Makes slightly more sense but still baffles me that someone can simultaneously be proud of being in a union while supporting the guy that wants to dismantle them.

That's Indiana for you. NWI is littered with that and some of the people I work with are in a union and parrot Fox News. Wildest shit I've ever seen.

This Green Party is shilling for Republicans. Sure sounds like serving elite interests to me.

Nope, you're right. I did it in my head and forgot to multiply by 100. Good catch!

If so then wouldn't Green Party leaders be included?

Ah yeah I remember that! I remember everyone talking about the 3% threshold where (if I remember correctly) the green party would be included in debates and receive federal campaign funds. Hell, if they couldn't do it at the height of Nader always I don't see that happening now, particularly under Stein.

Wait, the Green Party only had 300k members at it's peak? That's 0.001% of the American population. Why are all the tankies in here talking about how voting for Stein will make a difference? That's not even enough to consider her a contender in most states, much less for the whole country.

Edit: should be 0.1%. My bad and thanks for the correction!

Sure, feel free. It's your vote. Hope you have the same energy to wag your finger at genocide when Republicans kick it into overdrive. Hope your disapproval is strong enough to get you off your couch to do something about it.