Times have changed

Even better, when they film vertically, and then encode it to widescreen. Ensuring that no matter how you view it on a phone it's microscopic.

This is the only thing i really hate. I don't give a shit about vertical anymore. We lost that battle.
Just like my penis
- It's encoded in widescreen but is microscopic?
I love it when it's a phone recording of a landscape 16:9 video playing with the phone in vertical orientation and huge black bars above and below. Then I can view this on my 21:9 monitor with extreme black bars on the sides and a teeny-tiny picture in the middle.
Omg I really really hate this with a passion

I still mock them

Same. I will die on this hill. Vertical video sucks!
- My grandmas funeral was filmed in vertical video you piece of shit
- But like... my screen is veritical.
Sure grandma... Watch your step

My pro move is too change halfway in the same clip so at some point the orientation is just wrong no matter what you do. I also do diagonal shots.

I'm not allowed to film anymore.

Diagonal is the compromise solution.
- Call it a dutch angle, and suddenly you're a cinematographer
- Most of Battlefield Earth is shot diagonally and no one has complained about that fine film
Legitimately I do think being kind of, orientation agnostic, seems like a decent idea. I've seen it done well before in things like webtoons, where the sort of "line of action", as it were, can benefit from bouncing from one side of the screen to the other, and where a variety of composition techniques can make a shot look more interesting and be properly readable in either viewing orientation. I think a conflict kind of naturally comes about when you're just wanting to shoot everything to be completely in line with the floor so it's easily parsed by the viewer, which is understandable, but kind of limits how interesting and efficient you can make your shots.
Also, somebody needs to make some popsockets that actually work, so holding your phone horizontally for more than five minutes doesn't suck garbage doo doo.

I still do. Phones can be turned to view it either way. Screens can't. I'm not gonna ask my bud to get up and rotate his living room TV 90 degrees so we can look at my vacation photos. Plus, until we learn to levitate with our minds, the plane humans interact is and will presumably remain much, much wider than it is tall, so landscape captures more of it.

Yup. It's a shame the camera lense can't like rotate or something, phones are much easier to hold vertically.
- They're just as easy to hold either way though.
- I suspect that the sensor has the same dimensions, roughly, as the phone itself. Putting in a square one would probably cost more. Not saying that either way is right, just that that’s probably the reason.

Fixed it

I think it depends on your intended audience. If what you’re filming is meant to be viewed on a phone, then vertical makes sense. If the video is meant to be viewed on a TV, movie screen, or computer monitor, then rotate your phone.
I was mocking too, but things changed when a phone became the device to play back videos. At this point the orientation didn't matter as much.
It got to the point that some services, like YouTube shorts pretty much mandate vertical orientation.
- Cursing those services to never be seen on desktop devices because they look so wasteful of screen real state.
it's not stupid if that's the format it gets viewed most in
- Rotate your phone you dirty savage! Or don't idc really.
- I think you just proved the meme lol
- How is this controversial. If its made to be viewed on a phone then I don't see the reason to film hoizontally. Epecially the type of content that most people seem to make on like tiktok etc. seems better in vertical view.

This is why 4:3 should become the default aspect ratio for taking videos on phone.

No, I will not be taking questions at this moment.

great idea, but 1:1 is what it should have always been
- Nah, we should use some freedom aspect ratio, like 1.47266478:1.984772673
1:1
- Vertical or horizontal?
  /s
Galaxy Fold camera has this as the default dimensions. (The screen is also 4:3)
3:2 please
I shoot in 4:3 because it's closer to the actual sensor's resolution. No I have never looked this up, and no I will not change my ways if told otherwise.

I still question why so many people find it so difficult to just turn the phone 90 degrees to the side when you film with it. Is it because you think you look like a dork when you film a selfie with two hands? Because that's not why you look like a dork.

Admittedly you would look like a dork if you filmed at a 45 degree angle.
- Dutch angle!
I usually hold my phone horizontally to shoot video, but it definitely is easier to hold it vertically. After all, it was designed to be held vertically.
A lot of the time it's not that people can't or are scared to, they just don't feel the need to because most the video they watch is in vertical format. It's not being filmed for cinema release, it's for phones and tablets.

Note to self: "2 Fast 2 Barbie"(working title) should now be filmed vertically in order to appeal to Gen Z on Tik Tok.

Just make sure the main plot happens in the first 3 seconds or else they will get bored
- At the very least make sure Subway Surfers is playing in one of the corners
Akschually filming it vertically is not good because we can't insert subway surfers gameplay under the movie. It should be filmed like a small rectangle
- WHAT is up with that shit anyway? It's so annoying
- 4:3 superiority is back baby

We used to and we still do too.

Vertical Video Syndrome

It's a problem

Not really for very short video because 99% of the time you'll be watching it on your phone which is vertical by default. For long video horizontal is better.
- No, 99% of the time I'll be looking at it on the computer and my monitor is in the natural Landscape orientation

Ah yes, nothing like seeing a 16:9 picture pan-and-scanned on a portrait display.

It's not a generational thing; it's a filming standard.

Shouldn't you be filming for the device?

Like tiltok should be vertical and yt should be horizontal?

I'd say you should be filming for the content.
Someone on a pogo stick in the backyard? Vertically.
Your pet running around in the backyard? Probably horizontally.
Your friend planking in the backyard? ~~Definitely horizontally.~~ Not at all, get new friends.
- But I've spent the last ten years perfecting my planking game.
  I need witnesses to my perfection.
- As an artist this is how I've always thought about it. Shooting a group of five people vertical is suboptimal. There's too much wasted frame.
Film everything in square 1:1 format
Until Vine and later tiktok, basically the whole Internet was in the horizontal format and vertical videos would play with huge black boxes on the left and right and in turn you can't really make out the details of the videos as well because they were so small on those screens. Today's internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.
- Today's internet is very different and has things actually designed for vertical videos so complaining about it makes no sense anymore.
  It absolutely makes sense. You can design whatever you want for vertical videos but it makes no difference if the actual content isn't designed for it.
  How many times have you seen videos with multiple people falling out of frame while simultaneously half the frame consists of ground and sky? Then the camera operator viciously whips back and forth to try to capture everything, creating a jarring fuckin video? How many times do you see TikTokkers trying to contort their bodies so you can actually see what's going on in the image behind them? What difference does the size of resolution of the image make when half of it is consumed by nothing important?
- Except it does. It is such a waste of space to film like that. If anything film a square
It slightly annoys me when looking for YT vids on a subject and the results are full of 10 second vertically filmed shorts 🤦‍♂️. Some are fine in some cases I guess, but the majority are just noise IMO

Vertical Video PSA

We should have listened.... Now we have Tik Tok and YouTube Shorts.... 😢

You can still flame people who film vertically on those platforms
Like most problems it’s prevalence is due to a lack of bullying

Vertical was foretold long ago

Which movie is it?
- Looks like 2001
Dude can afford to go to space but can't afford a tablet with an OLED.

...and I hate it

So people on lemmy are pretty fuckin old eh? Interesting..

hey, some of us are merely kinda fuckin old
- I wouldn't even consider myself that and I still mock people taking vertical pictures

I still do

The medium is the message and all that.

Reminded me of this gem

I am a social media content creator sometimes for work...

But human eyes are on the vertical plane...

I feel so conflicted sometimes.

Oh god, please no.

I never had a problem with this. It's not like whole movies or long youtube videos are recorded vertically. The kind of content that is recorded vertically is mainly watched on phones, and it's not like it's unwatchable on any other screen. Never once have I seen anyone say anything about it that is anything more than mild inconvenience about something they really shouldn't care that much about. It's just stereotypical "complaining because you can" bullshit that is so common.

i’m not 110% in agreement (more like 65%) but you deserve an upvote for being the only person in here to defend it
- Same. I may not agree with what you say, but I will upvote til dinner your right to say it.
  The thing I hate about vertical video is all the footage of rare or historical events that are filmed by someone firehosing their phone back & forth like mad trying to capture the scope of it all, when all they have to do is rotate the phone 90 degrees. Don't make me watch a tsunami through a keyhole. Frame correctly to capture the event.