2y ago

China says Israel has gone too far

www.politico.com

China’s foreign minister said Saturday that Israel has gone too far in responding to last week’s invasion by Hamas, China’s official news agency reported.

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

According to Xinhua, China has an interest in helping resolve the conflict and the underlying issues involving the Palestinian population.

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He's not wrong. But it's worth remembering that when China faced a far smaller provocation from their own restive Muslims, in Xinjiang, they responded by locking up a large fraction of the population in vast reeducation camps...
- Not saying that's right, but at least they didn't bomb the camps...
  
  I think if they felt the need to they would have. China and Israel's government both place about the same value on the lives of people who get in their way, China is just a lot more self conscious about its international image.
  
  They raped and tortured them form what I understand.
maybe the chinese can give them some tips, I heard they're pretty experienced in handling minorities...
- "you just build a giant factory around them and start exporting"
  
  And some camps for them to concen....to focus and recreate.
wow, says by the nation who abuses Filipino fishermen, claiming they own the entire West Philippine Sea
- Dude, Huawei allegedly partnering with China to identify Uyghurs.
- Projection gaming. Classic China lmao
  
  Their 9-dash line claim failed. So they have freshly-baked 10-dash line lol
Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.
Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point
- So many Palestinians dead....do you understand how much free labour you could've gotten out of them?
Because the Chinese government treats Muslims so well, right?
I wonder what they would do if the Uyghurs revolted... oh wait, we do know, we have precedent, just look how they treated their students.
- Did they get bombed?
  
  The Chinese are more frugal in their methods of genocide, but the disregard for human life is about the same.
  
  No but they are forced into re-education and labor camps and have their organs harvested among other things
  https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2021/06/china-un-human-rights-experts-alarmed-organ-harvesting-allegations
  
  Nope, just got kidnapped and their organs stolen.
  
  Nope, just shot and ran over by tanks to such an extent they were not even recognizable
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
- cocks my block button
  I am tired of "arguing" with them (it's not an argument in my head if it's bad faith)
  So I usually call them a fucktard tankie and block them at this point
I'm very inclined to ignore West Taiwan's position on matters of ethics and morality.
- Pro-tip: If you’re pitching a Taiwanese company, saying “West Taiwan” is almost a guarantee of winning the business.
Genocidal China has problem with more genocide? Whut?
- This is one of those things that is so set in people's minds, I'd love to know what you actually imagine happening when you say it - like what you're picturing.
  I've been giving friends pop quizes about Xinjiang when they bring it up, so far not found a single person who knows anything about any single part of it.
  It's interesting because so many people claim to be deeply concerned about it but no one ever seems to have any real desire to learn about it, I've seen a million infographics this week about Palestines population and the history and everything but no one ever posts facts about the situation in China even though it's mentioned endlessly in glib comments.
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
  
  At a guess, it may be because it's not as easily accessible by the western media. If they can't report on it directly, they won't give it full attention apart from the occasional opinion piece or blog and that won't make a headline or sell papers.
  No money to make, no reporting to be done.
I thought the CCP hated Muslims too.
- Gee, maybe religion isn't the sole factor in all of this?
  
  Communists hate religion. The CCP is disingenuous.
- Gaza has basically been an open air concentration camp for 16 years.
  But the sheer balls on China to spout this rhetoric.
Here's an idea? Let the Chinese government administer Gaza! They have experience reeducting Muslims right? Then all Gazaouis muslims will become Jewish, Christian, atheist, you name it! Possibilities are endless.
- They'll all be Chinese!
- Gazaouis
  😐
- No, there'll be plenty of Jews in a few days as well.
  
  Thank you for supporting the idea and sorting out the details! You are right, gazaoui buddhists gonna have it rough. Also sorry for making assumptions without insulting you, I'm new around here
So Palestine is now supported by russia, Syria, Iran, China, all the greatest and most fair countries in the world.
- It's quite an obvious geopolitical win for them. It's not hard to notice that the "western" reactions to the Russian occupation of Ukraine is pretty inconsistent with the support of the Israeli occupation of Gaza and the West Bank. Obviously support for Ukraine is the right thing to do, but again, inconsistent policy is easy to critique.
- Exceedingly rare W
- You're conflating multiple things. Most notably, you're conflating criticizing Israel with praising Hamas.
- Bravo. You nailed it. Thank you.
At the “start” of this, I didn’t really have an opinion. But that’s mostly due to lack of knowledge and the complexity of the issue.
I was initially siding with Israel as they were hit first, but their response has made me rethink things.
I’m still really undecided and am unqualified to make an opinion anyway.
- "As they were hit first."
  Whooboy. You have to go far, far, far back in history, buddy.
  
  People were on TV news saying the Israelis are like Native Americans getting their land back 🤣🤣🤣
- The graphs here go to 2008 and the situation has been going on for decades before that
- It's OK not too have a side. Israel and Palestine have been going at it for so long and the history is so complex that there is literally blame on both sides.
- The fact that you consider yourself unqualified to make an opinion probably makes you more qualified to do so than 95% of the idiots out there whose opinions are already firmly established.
- Do you feel the need to take a side
  
  The only side I give a shit about are the civilians just trying to live their lives
  
  The pressure is all over these comment sections. Not this one in particular.
  
  Interesting thought, when you have countries sending aid to one side or the other, or protests pro one way or the other, makes you think you should have a side.
- It's really complicated. If you trace back why people did what they did, including motivations, you'll end up centuries back. I stopped in the Russian revolutionary time period last time I tried.
  
  Is it even safe to start from the Ottomans?
- I was initially siding with Israel as they were hit first, but their response has made me rethink things.
  To generalize this out to other wars and conflicts, even regular old arguments, there are almost always pre-existing conditions and tensions leading up to the first major attack. Even things like WWI, where the catalyst was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. But there is quite obviously more to the atmosphere, national ambitions, etc. etc. that make it so that the separatists wanted to assassinate him, and make it so that Austria-Hungary wanted to invade Serbia and used this as an excuse. A war would have happened anyway, no matter who attacked first.
- Iarael's response is to destroy the terrorist organizario that is responsible for all of this misery.
  
  And how does that justify bombing evacuation convoys?
  
  History has proven time and time again that this is the worst possible way to do that. Israel is either stupid or is acting intentionally with another purpose.
  
  Oh are they going to ban Likud?
"Before the Hamas incursion and subsequent Israeli military response, it was believed that Israel and Saudi Arabia, driven by a common animus toward Iran, were working toward a normalization of relations, a development that could have shifted the dynamic in the Middle East."
Who wants the dynamic in the Middle East to remain unchanged?
- What is there's to like, really?
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As long as Hamas still actively holds hostages its fair game.
China is suggesting Uyghur style genocide instead. I misspoke I meant "reducation"
The US calls out something bad and people point out the hypocrisy: "wHaTaBoUtIsM"
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I liked how Vlad Vexler put it. I'd try to paraphrase, but it's probably better to let him speak for himself:
https://youtu.be/nbPZ5m_WOYs?si=Q0B760C3LFa27AsX
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Wtf I love Israel now

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