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Another 62 ‘Girls Do Porn’ Victims Sue Pornhub for $600 Million

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Another 62 ‘Girls Do Porn’ Victims Sue Pornhub for $600 Million

A lawsuit filed by more victims of the sex trafficking operation claims that Pornhub’s moderation staff ignored reports of their abuse videos.

Sixty-one additional women are suing Pornhub’s parent company, claiming that the company failed to take down videos of their abuse as part of the sex trafficking operation Girls Do Porn. They’re suing the company and its sites for sex trafficking, racketeering, conspiracy to commit racketeering, and human trafficking.
The complaint, filed on Tuesday, includes what it claims are internal emails obtained by the plaintiffs, represented by Holm Law Group, between Pornhub moderation staff. The emails allegedly show that Pornhub had only one moderator to review 700,000 potentially abusive videos, and that the company intentionally ignored repeated reports from victims in those videos.
The damages and restitution they seek amounts to more than $311,100,000. They demand a jury trial, and seek damages of $5 million per plaintiff, as well as restitution for all the money Aylo, the new name for Pornhub’s parent company, earned “marketing, selling and exploiting Plaintiffs’ videos in an amount that exceeds one hundred thousand dollars for each plaintiff.”
The plaintiffs are 61 more unnamed “Jane Doe” victims of Girls Do Porn, adding to the 60 that sued Pornhub in 2020 for similar claims.
Girls Do Porn was a federally-convicted sex trafficking ring that coerced young women into filming pornographic videos under the pretense of “modeling” gigs. In some cases, the women were violently abused. The operators told them that the videos would never appear online, so that their home communities wouldn’t find out, but they uploaded the footage to sites like Pornhub, where the videos went viral—and in many instances, destroyed their lives. Girls Do Porn was an official Pornhub content partner, with its videos frequently appearing on the front page, where they gathered millions of views.

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- Yeah it's fucking disgusting. I just googled what is it in google images because I used to watch a lot of porn in the past probably from that brand too. I seen those faces, those women that probably some of them at least were forced to do it...
  Nowdays I don't enjoy consuming mainstream porn at all because like it's... violent in a way. Consensual or not it always looks like something is seriously off, wrong like someone is waiting with a gun behind the camera you know. Like they just treat the girl like a doll and throw her around, cum, then away. Guys are ugly as fuck
  There is this bellesa stuff, amateur vids, lots of things that seem more enjoyable for everyone and of course old good hentai
  
  Honestly, nothing beats two consenting adults enjoying eachother and sharing it with the world. Professional porn is disgusting imo
  
  I like looking for couples. It also seem they know and enjoy each other more.
  
  A lot of American porn is just degrading towards women. It's either about making them look dumb, or as sluts or as objects (" free use" porn), or some crazy perversion to making them look like underage 🔞 teens. It's all bad/toxic; the mainstream porn industry.
  Also all of a sudden 30 year old adult film stars are somehow classified as MILFs now a days.
  The porn industry is all around ugly ( at least in US ) and should really be ran by women mostly. Also deserves government intervention so that human trafficking doesn't happen like it did with this "girls do porn" monsters.
  A lot of American male porn actors have been found guilty of sexual abuse as well. We just don't hear about it in mainstream news.
  
  The real question is: can consent be bought?
- I never last that long anyways
- Amazon still sells Milo & Otis
- Is there a good porn site alternative?
  
  The entire internet
  
  Pretty much only somthing like Reddits gonewild community. Wich forces uploaders to verify and not be a seller. Its mostly for pictures tho. Atleast thats as far as i can see.
  
  Just don’t watch pornography. It’s inherently built around exploitation
It's quite simple honestly, if you profit off something, you have the responsibility to make sure it's legal. We all like platforms like YouTube where you can find anything you want, but the truth is that they're currently unsustainable when forced to comply with the law.
With the advent of AI there's hope for improved systems for detecting violations, but it doesn't seem to be there yet.
- I agree that pornhub, et al, should be liable for abuse their platform distributes, but how on earth is AI meant to help in sex trafficking?
  
  A lot of people have this very naive view that if we just build AI overlords to monitor all human activity, we can somehow automate good behavior and make the world a better place.
  Really we'll just end up with RoboCop.
  
  AI will help with sex trafficking by generating all the porn so humans won't need to be involved at all.
  In the future the equivalent lawsuit will be from the victims of hackers who used people's PCs to generate porn.
  
  Edit: I said "ideally," as in utopian. In practice, corporations, governments and overall greed are in the way.
  Ideally, sci-fi style, an effective AI can sift through all the reports and take down the videos that are clearly suspicious (as opposed to popular and well-known videos of porn stars that could be found elsewhere, for example, in dvd format.) It could message the reporter asking for more information, for example. Then it could message an actual human for the videos it is not confident to deem as abusive.
  It may even try to contact the victims and offer them options to report the perpetrators to the authorities. Or lead them to a safe house, etc.
  It could do this without never being tired, never being hungry, never feeling shocked.
  In practice, we're not there yet. Close, but not there.
  
  that’s for the bad guys to figure out in prison after being arrested
- As soon as you open anything to user generated content you run the risk that they're going to do something dodgy with that access. More than a decade ago I remember they added the emblem creator to Call of Duty and people were making swastikas within minutes.
- Well here's the question, is an AI detection software legal if it's trained to identify this material? Strictly speaking, unless it is 100% free, selling the AI software would be profiting off the illegal material that you used to teach the AI.
- It’s quite simple honestly, if you profit off something, you have the responsibility to make sure it’s legal.
  Morally, yes, in practice that's not how our economy generally works, this is a gigantic can of worms from cobalt mines to work safety in Asian textile factories and back and forth and into a gazillion places. Germany has recent legislation about this but AFAIK it's the only such legislation in the world.
  
  Well, countries' laws, with some exceptions, only have authority within their own borders.
- Yes, but how far does due diligence go in a matter like this? If company A is buying things they get from company B and company B gives company A all the proper paperwork, is it company A's responsibility to make sure company B didn't do anything illegal to obtain what they had? Was there a reason for company A to suspect company B was illegally obtaining something that many other companies legally and legitimately acquire?
  I don't think so. I think in that case it would be completely company B that is at fault 100%.
  I think it starts to become also company A's fault when it can be shown that they were aware of company B possibly obtaining things illegally or that company A started getting complaints about what company B was illegally doing. This here is more like what pornhub has done. They seemed to have purposefully understaffed the review and complaints department in order to more or less ignore complaints. Up until that part I don't think PH would be responsible.
  
  If you re-sell for example stolen goods, your proceeds from those sale may be taken from you together with whatever stolen good you have on stock, and if you are found to be aware of the illegal origin of those goods, then you are an accomplice and are charged accordingly.
  That's why buyers of used items have the difficult task of ascertaining whether those items are stolen or not.
I always hated GDP videos cause the girls never looked like they wanted to be there, now I know why, they didn't. There's a lot of porn out there where the girl is very clearly not enjoying it or just laying there, I don't know how anyone finds that hot.
- Honestly I'm running into that a lot with women, especially younger women. They all want to be "dominated" and it does nothing for me.
  
  Consensual non-consent is also surprisingly common with younger women as well. Makes me very uncomfortable.
- Rapists.
  Rapists find it hot.
  Like the rapists that ran GDP.
  
  Or, like, half of the BDSM community who enjoy when this is roleplayed, like what everyone watching these videos thought it was.
  Unless you think anyone who plays video games with guns only find it fun cause theyre murderers?
  
  Many of these women did this consenually. Read the article: it says they were told it wouldn't be posted on online. These women were more than happy to have sex on on film for money, they are just unhappy others found out about it. That is breach of contract but it isn't rape.
  It says some of the women were violently abused which is totally fucked, that potentially is rape, but this suit includes both those groups and the difference is important. And the offenses are a world of difference between them.
- Gdp?
  
  Gross Domestic Product
  
  Girls Do Porn
  
  Wanna make a wild guess based on the title? lol
Given their videos were so highly ranked, the prevalence of coercion in the industry, and the fact that it's often impossible to tell if someone's been threatened behind the scenes, it's highly likely that most people reading this who have watched porn online have also watched plenty of videos of actual rapes.
This is a simple fact, but one which a lot of people would rather deny, rather than admit their part in perpetuating it, while wondering why watching porn makes them sad. Partly, I suspect, because deep down they know the truth of it.
- I wonder how many products you've bought in your life were made by child labor.
  
  There is no ethical consumption under capitalism
  
  We have likely bought many, often after lying to ourselves about it.
  Do two wrongs make a right?
  Also:
  Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwi, tuːˈkwoʊkweɪ/;[1] Latin Tū quoque, for "you also") is a discussion technique that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by attacking the opponent's own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, therefore accusing hypocrisy. This specious reasoning is a special type of ad hominem attack. The Oxford English Dictionary cites John Cooke's 1614 stage play The Cittie Gallant as the earliest use of the term in the English language.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuquoque
  
  I guess it would depend on if the person wears clothing or not
  
  Not to mention the animal suffering we’re all responsible for with all our soaps and cosmetic products being sprayed into their eyes and rubbed into their skin to make sure it’s safe for us. And while I believe animals can be raised for meat humanely and ethically, they’re very often not.
- I avoid this by not watching porn that makes me sad. There's plenty of consensual, happy, joyful sex-positive porn out there.
  While your point is valid about this particular situation (which is horrible and criminal on multiple levels), your overbroad generalization of porn and the implied assumption of guilt in the viewers is what's led folks to react negatively to your statement.
  On a larger level, this kind of statement plays into the puritanical doctrines towards sex that paint it as a negative force, and subsequently leads to the twisting of a positive, creative act into a negative expression of power and rape in those that accept those doctrines.
  Porn is not at fault here, nor are its viewers. Those at fault in this crime are the producers and publishers, who were well aware of the abuses happening under their watch, and deceived their viewers into believing they were observing consensual performance acts. I hope that these women get every cent and more, and it would be excellent to see a class action suit from Pornhub's subscribers arise in tandem to and in support of their complaint.
  
  Exactly, it's not too hard to find videos where you can see by their faces and sounds that they're having a good time. If they're not then it's a turn off
  
  That works for you but a lot of people get off on the "dominating" side of things, especially women.
  I'm like you, I hate that kind of stuff so I'm pretty sure I've never gotten off to it, but it's popular for a reason.
- This is why I stick to hentai. No traficking or coercion or questionable consent there, just a bunch of nerds doing what they love.
  
  You don’t know if someone is being held hostage in a basement, and being threat to death in order to draw some pictures, while being whipped whenever they fail to meet the daily quota. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
  
  Drawing shotacon, as Zeus intended.
- But what is the prevalence of coercion in the industry? Is that known? Can it be known?
  Most people I’ve heard speak about their experiences in the porn industry say this type of coercion is rare. GDP was a unique situation. Virtually everyone knew (or should have known) they were bad news for years before law enforcement got involved. I remember arguing with people about this. And actually one of the things people said was “who cares, this kind of thing is everywhere in the industry, they know what they’re getting into.” So I actually think that not only is there no evidence to support that, but this idea can even be harmful by painting the better behaved studios with a broad stroke, and giving the fewer bad actors cover to keep operating.
  I think the best way to help sex workers, if this is something that concerns you, is to treat them with respect, call out the hateful stigma against their work, and support efforts to organize for worker protections. Despite the fact that most studios are not out there raping people left and right, like most industries, there is often a power imbalance between workers and owners and this sometimes leads to exploitation.
- I am a regular consumer of online porn. And I'll admit, I loved their videos. Now knowing what was going on, that's on me to do some thinking, i have probably watched a rape and helped the perpetrator make money from that act. That's hard on the conscience. I don't know what to think about it.
  
  The fault lies squarely on the shoulders of the producers. You hold as much guilt for that action as anyone who has ever purchased a cell phone has for the conditions for the workers are subjected to. Which isn't to say 0, but it's so small that it may as well be.
  
  Really? You don't know how to feel about jerking off to rape? I know how to feel about you. POS.
- Hate their videos, most of the girls always look bored or not into it, which is now clear why. That's why there's a rise in homemade, Indy models and couples putting up the best videos recently, cause you can tell the people involved are actually into it and enjoying it.
  
  These things move in cycles.
  People want amateur porn.
  Companies don't.
  Amateur porn rises until it gets purged, then a few years later it rises again.
- I think the bigger problem is, you as a consumer have no way of knowing. And it's SO prevalent, that yeah, you almost certainly have. But I can't really know, or do much as a consumer. Don't make it like the people just watching are the ones perpetuating the problem instead of the ones who are producing this shit.
  
  I can always kind of tell. Half those videos the girls look straight up scared and not enjoying it
- Alright, get rid of your phone. And whoa, if you have an iPhone, you might as well be pushing those Foxconn employees over the edge to their death. Everyone who bought a diamond is evil too. Do you love chocolate? You monster! Children most likely collected that. Clothes? My dear boy, you are supporting the exploitation of third world poors. Did you buy cheap veggies? Bloody psycho, you might as well be standing with a gun over the hordes of immigrants picking most of those for unliveable wages. Go to the cinema, watch a video on youtube, or listen to music on spotify, or vote for a conservative? How dare you support industries that have known child molesters, wage slaves, lobby for worse living standards, donate to hate groups, and and and?
  "Oh, but that's involuntary, I need those to survive". Do you? Do you really? Did you need to buy a new phone? Is chocolate really necessary? Why don't you pick your own fruit? Music, video, and other pleasures aren't necessary to survive either.
  
  Do you have an argument other than a tu quoque?
  
  That's a lot of words for "I know, but I really don't want to give up my porn 😭"
  
  So you're fine with the fact that you've almost certainly, essentially guaranteed to have, masturbated to a woman being raped? What the living fuck is wrong with you?
- I just can't get behind (heh) OF personally. evey video I've ever seen has just looked like a tiktok/insta "influencer" having sex and it is just a massive turnoff for me. the lighting is just so off all the time. looks more produced than actual produced stuff. just doesn't do it for me
  
  Unfortunately, we can't know for sure that OF models aren't subject to similar abuse either, but its likely a safer bet.
- I have never watched porn. Some would say that makes me inhuman but it can be done. Those of us with experience in the sex industry would never say 'sex positive'.
- Save your fucking houlier than thou attitude for yourself.
  
  I don't understand, are you saying that not being okay with watching porn of a woman being raped is somehow a pretentious position? What are you on?
  
  Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwi, tuːˈkwoʊkweɪ/;[1] Latin Tū quoque, for "you also") is a discussion technique that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by attacking the opponent's own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, therefore accusing hypocrisy. This specious reasoning is a special type of ad hominem attack. The Oxford English Dictionary cites John Cooke's 1614 stage play The Cittie Gallant as the earliest use of the term in the English language.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuquoque
The emails allegedly show that Pornhub had only one moderator to review 700,000 potentially abusive videos(...)
Well that'd be an interesting job to put on a resume
- and here I was reviewing them for free...
  
  Me too. I think it's time we sue pornhub for unpaid labor.
Can we have AI generated porn now ?
- We've had that for about a year now. Youtube is especially full of it (the somewhat SFW-kind).
  
  Just pictures. Stable diffusion type models have huge problems with flickering right now for videos. No consistency.
- Time for even more impossible beauty standards!
  
  Most beauty standards are held by women tbh
- what will hot singles near me do for money though?
- I can envision a world where the search bar is an AI prompt. What a time to be alive that will be!
  I wonder if we can also browse other peoples' prompts. That would be cool.
  
  Oh... oh no...
  
  Microsoft edge/bing is already a search bar that is an AI prompt now
- Why take jobs away from people? There are plenty of porn actors who are not being abused. Why would we want to centralize it all more than it is with an automated "AI" tool?
  
  Ew the other replies to this are so weird. Fuck people really not seeing how having someone like Meta in charge of generating all porn could be a really fucked up thing because it's better for humans to do nothing at all? Christ that is a bleak fucking idea of a utopia.
  Just because you nerds can't handle the idea of sex doesn't mean it should just all be generated.
  
  AI image generators don't really lead to centralization - quite the contrary in fact. While there are your DALL-Es and ChatGPTs behind closed doors, there's also Stable Diffusion and its many variants, along with various open-source Large Language Models and several other projects from hobbyist developers. I've seen a lot of people make and post their own AI-generated porn with Stable Diffusion, and some who make money out of it. So while some porn actors/actresses may lose their jobs because of AI, this technology is also creating opportunities for other people.
  And the same can be argued about any kind of automation, so how far should we go with this idea? Should mechanical looms be banned to bring back manual weaving jobs? Should automated filters on social media be removed to create more jobs for content moderators?
  I don't think AI/automation is the problem. A world where most jobs are automated isn't a bad thing - a world where money takes precedent over humans and people are punished if they're out of work (i.e. capitalism) is.
- But that would be immoral.. 🙄
- Why, you need rape porn?
  
  Such a reductive take. Maybe they want porn that isn't borderline, or questionable. Something where there's zero potential for abuse. Unless you yourself are privy to the inner workings of each company and the story of each model individually, then you're running into a risk of stuff not being kosher just by nature of the content.
  Plus, yeah, what about people who are into more extreme things? May as well let them have an outlet for their desires that doesn't actually have anyone getting raped.
  
  Honestly this response says more about you than anything else.
If the allegations hold up in court i hope aside from the victims to be properly compensated that multiple heads go to prison. Being the head of an organized crime ring that is trafficking and rapeing people for profit, in this case at least all C levels of Aylo, should get a life sentence and all assets seized.
- Imagine a world where you read the article and learned that they've already been federally convicted. It was in the first paragraph.
  
  The direct company doing it. But Aylo who partnered with them and promoted the content should also be held criminally liable.
  
  Was that hyperbole on which paragraph for effect? It was the 5th paragraph btw. I do agree though, people should read articles before commenting, but that's not in the instant gratification world we live in now.
  
  Imagine a world where you did not get mixed up about which company had been federally convicted.
- This is strictly a civil lawsuit against Pornhub (Aylo) AFAIK
  I guess stuff could turn up in this trial that leads to criminal charges, but from what I understand nobody at Aylo was involved with the GDP activities. They were simply a popular channel on the site.
  The people behind GDP did get charged and convicted with a long list of criminal charges including rape, sexual assault, fraud, sex trafficking, etc. Some got charged with like 20 years. Pratt, one of the founders went on the run and was on the FBI wanted fugitive list. He was arrested by Interpol in Madrid eventually.
  Pornhub was/is a video hosting platform and the lawsuit is because they didn't react quickly enough to remove the videos. Legally speaking, they aren't responsible for the content assuming they make a good faith effort to remove it should it be found out it was illegal.
  The law exists in this manner because otherwise social media sites wouldn't exist. At any point any user can post something illegal and then the website would be liable for criminal charges.
  They had 1 moderator responsible for checking 700,000 videos. The plaintiffs are claiming that this means they weren't making a good faith effort to remove these videos.
  IANAL but I think they have a legal argument although we'll have to see what happens. It'll be interesting to see how the ruling goes. Other social media websites are definitely watching with interest.
- tryptamine
  his case at least all C levels of Aylo, should get a life sentence and all assets seized.
  I get not reading the article but did you even finish the headline lol?
  Aylo wasn't the one raping people. They're the parent company of YouTube for porn. A video hosting platform. If you've ever watched porn on it, that means you unwittingly helped in perpetuating these videos too.
  Aylo is going to pay heavily no doubt. But there's a reason why this is a CIVIL lawsuit.
Was this after PH removed all content from non-verified accounts? If so, one might wonder how much it actually helped.
- It doesn't help that much. When there's a will, there's a way.
  
  Agreed, though I wondered if bad actors actually bothered, given the less restrictive competition. Probably because PH is so large?
For the full scope of what these sick fucks at GDP did to hundreds of women, read the DOJ sentencing document for the main actor/recruiter
- I've seen a lot of victim blaming in regards to this situation, where people just say it's girls who get paid and then feels like whores so they go cry about it
  But a lot of those videos are legitimate rapes. Like, coercion is rape. Blocking the door, threatening violence, threatening to show their families, etc, is just rape.
Think the free and open internet dream is dead.
Corporations are going to rule the world.
The amateur porn glory days are gone.
- Right cuz that’s the real tragedy here. Not that many women got raped, extorted, targetted, bullied had their livelihood and reputations ruined.
  
  I didn't say that.
  Just read the story. It's huge on corporation's doing shit and having control. That's a bad thing. But they are the only ones that can be "trusted"
- This is literally the golden age of amateur porn.
- The Fediverse is the solution.
- Onlyfans.
  I think you mean the glory days of stolen porn and videos uploaded w/o both parties consent are gone. Which is a weird thing to reminisce about when you think of these as videos of people and not things to make your peepee hard.
- Lustery.com exists, fyi
62? what about hundreds more vids they had just like that? add the fact that most of the people who watch porn just skip past the interview so they seldom see the consent of the actors involved.
OP article says 61 women, just as a polite heads up.I think you've got a title edit to make maybe, if you care.
- The article mentions 61 unnamed victims and one named one (Kristy Althaus).
  
  There it is ok, thank you. Idk why this bothered me so much. Also I'm pretty sure it's an ai written (structured, or expanded using) article becuase I've noticed I have a very hard time reading a lot of the ai written stuff for some reason. I don't follow it properly somehow.
- I think it's an error on their part then because if you click the article the headline still says 62, but over a 1 person error I won't change the title for the post it is close enough
  
  Oh wierd. My bad
Porn is bad
- If you downvoted this, you are a coomer
what they did was clearly terrible, but at the same time, this is what happens when you make the age of consent for this stuff 18. you could make the exact same argument about military service, they use all the same tactics. I hope they win and get some money and a piece of their dignity back, but what's done is done. raise your kids right, and don't normalize objectification of women, teach your daughters to be strong, and they'll never have to respond to a sketchy ad about "modeling" in the back of some city rag.
- Yeah it’s the girls fault!!!
  How could they be so silly?
It's time to ban all pornography, literally nothing good comes from it.
- Remember Harvey Weinstein? There's rape in Hollywood, too. That doesn't mean all of Hollywood should be shut down; it means Harvey Weinstein was a rapist and went to prison for it. Same goes here. Shut down the rapists; don't suppress sexual entertainment in general.
- $10 says the parent commenter is a porn user.
the fact the website had girls and porn in the same sentence alone is like, a big fucking red flag. Being called a girl as an adult, especially in porn feels demeaning at best or at worst, has some worrying implication (intended or not)
- What an incredibly naive stance to take.
  Not only is it flat wrong, you just choose to ignore the significant usage of boys / girls to refer to adults in pop culture. ie: boys will be boys.
  The term girls does not necessarily refer to underage, or women who appear underage. Same with boys. And making an argument to the contrary really just makes you look silly and discredits any legitimate point you might have.
  
  The term boy and girl are not used in even remotely similar ways. Girl as a term is used for grown adult women altogether too often, and a disgusting amount in sexual contexts. Its always a girl fucking a man, never a woman fucking a boy. Infantilizing women is a core feature of patriarchy, and reducing us to subservient and submissive of men in a childlike way. Porn is, obviously, extremely sexualized and plays into male power fantasies and the male perspective on women in their day to day lives. The fact that girl is so often used then, indicates that term represents in some capacity the underlying view men take to women they are sexually attracted to and the fantasy they have of those women.
  And that should absolutely horrify you. If it doesn't then on some level you're just telling on yourself. Its one thing if one woman in a relationship likes being called a girl by her partner, another thing altogether when its mass media consumed by millions of men and is therefore devoid of any real emotional attachment or investment in the real woman in the video. Add in that its commonly known that pornography as an industry is chock-full of coercion / blackmail / manipulation / sex trafficking / rape and sexual abuse and it paints a picture of one of the most horrifying things that is normalized to exist in our society.
- Yes yes and I don't want to hear about me hanging out with "the boys" either when I'm with my male friends, we're "the men" I suppose, to keep it consistant. I mean, I know nobody means it in a derogatory manner, at least mostly, but if "girls" is derogatory than so too must "boys" be, especially when used by those who claim "girls" is derogatory.
  I now expect the terms "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" become stricken from the lexicon since they are derogatory terms, instead "manfriend" or "womanfriend" must be used going forward from 00:00:00 on the individual in question's 18th birthday.
  
  It's 2023, use "personfriend". Unless they're a furry I guess.
- I hate to break it to you, but "girls" is just the term the porn industry uses. I get what you're saying about it being problematic, and I don't disagree, but suggesting that this is a red flag for sex trafficking is really close to just saying that all porn is sex trafficking, and that is SWERF nonsense.
  
  i never said its a red flag for sex trafficking? its just a red flag in general
- Men like to fuck children, so women in porn are called girls.
  
  Your comments are unreal. I think you just hate men.
- Bro victim blaming is never the answer here, this is sexual trafficking victims you're blaming
- The fuck?
- This is the most brain-dead take I've ever read
  The fuck is wrong with you dude? Had a bad breakup or something?
- they knew they complied
  That's the thing, they didn't know. They were told it's "do this or buy your own flight back".
- My guy these are sex trafficking victims, they don't get the "choice" you're mentioning. They were either kidnapped or scammed into doing this, meaning forced. But you're probably a troll so I won't elaborate lol.
Tha vast majority of men could not care care less about how the victims of their porn feel. Im fairly certain that an erection shuts down any empathy in most men.
- Im fairly certain that an erection shuts down any empathy in most men.
  You clearly don’t understand how common erections are. High school boys would be rape machines 24/7 according to this reasoning.
  
  Are you saying only empathy prevents you from raping others? I'm sad to inform you that most men don't rape because they dont like it instead.
- Would you like to know that I legitimately cannot finish unless my girlfriend is smiling? And I would presume I'm not unique in that regard.
  
  that's... nearly as weird?
- There’s literally a pheromone in womens tears that dampens arousal in men. Even if you’re not there to smell it, the body still responds to a degree. That’s not to say that no men can maintain an erection through a woman crying for any reason, but empathy does not drop for “most men” when they’re aroused.
  
  There’s literally a pheromone in womens tears that dampens arousal in men.
  What the FUCK
  I mean that’s functional but how the hell did evolution do that

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