Oof some tough questions for them
Oof some tough questions for them
Oof some tough questions for them
Never ask a nato supporter who Adolf heusinger was.
NATO wasn't involved in Iraq were they?
Not NATO, countries that just so happened to be members of NATO for completely unrelated reasons don’t even worry about it.
Bush desperately tried to tie saddam to al-qaeda so he could trigger article 5 by claiming 9/11 was an act of aggression. That didn't pan out but the empires most loyal dogs still went with the us on their massmurder campaign. See the "coalition of the willing"
You forgot Poland. — GWB
Nope. Because Iraq isn’t on the North Atlantic. Did OP ever look at a map?
What do you think OP meant when he listed all those countries not in nato?
Never ask an EU supporter about why their own country doesn't get to decide things for its self
Zing! 😆
What do you not like about the EU and do you think Germany should leave the EU?
What do you not like about the EU
centralizing control is bad. It gives less freedom and autonomy to the common man.
A citizen of a country in the EU votes for their parliment or congress or whatever to decide things, but then the EU parliment can just override whatever your elected officals decide. Doesn't that piss you off? Imagine an entire continent being an HOA neighborhood. Where the HOA gets to dictate everything you do with your own house that they don't own, don't pay bills for and don't maintain for you... and that's a metaphor for the EU
I wouldn't just get rid of the EU if I had my way, I'd de-centralize as much authority as possible down to every town being a self governing local community.
But with a constituion of rights that are always off the table for any debate.
Full bodily autonomy, free speech, gun ownership, right to privacy, right to remain silent, right to a fair trial with legal representation..competent legal represenation that won't pressure you into admitting anything...basically a set of rights that allow you to do what you want with your own things and your own land
If you have a problem with gun ownership. You won't once you've had to deal with someone invading your home. What? you think calling the police is going to stop a home invader from hurting you?
"hey I just called the police!"
"oh shit! you got me! Guess I'll just sit here and wait to be arrested"
That list of nations is very short.
Is certainly longer than Russia list, but they're the baddies right?
Gotta love 2025. Is this an alt-right post or an alt-left post? No one can tell. Horseshoe theory, etc etc.
Anyone with a working brain cell can tell bud.
Yeah, true. I have observed that too in the last few years. If you see someone saying we should not support Ukraine there is a 50/50 chance they are far-left or far-right. Pretty impossible to tell in most cases.
What about Gaza?
What is NATOs involvement there?
The main NATO member countries are backing Israel, with money, weaponry, and promises of defense. This happened when the US invaded Iraq also.
every single country in that T-word organization (I leave figuring out what the "T" word is as an exercise for the reader) provides material support, whether directly or indirectly, to the settler-colonial entity.
With all that is happening in the world, someone decides to spend time to make a meme about NATO being a bad guy?
Given that NATO is actively supporting the worst thing going on the world (as usual), yes?
Ah, Yugoslavia. How dare anyone disturb that genocide.
There was intense conflict along ethnic lines on both sides. NATO didn't intervene to "stop a genocide," it bombed hundreds of state-owned factories and murdered over 2000 civilians (including 300 Albanians, which NATO claimed to be "protecting"). The real drive was to destroy a nation that dared to be a part of the Non-Aligned Movement, and make them subservient to western interests, opened up for foreign plundering.
The ethnic violence was horrible, but NATO didn't really fix it, it took advantage of it as a reason to get involved and achieve the aims of western powers economically.
NATO didn’t stop a genocide; it aided one. And Milošević has posthumously been found not to have committed genocide.
Of all the things, you decided to defend that scumbag. He and his cronies were one of the primary agitators that caused the war. Even if he himself didn't order a genocide, he actively militarily supported the Bosnian Serbs that caused one. And say what you want but the bombing did stop the active ethnic cleansing happening in Kosovo.
Fix your link
Yeah, who do they think they are? NATO?
Bombs were falling on civilian targets nowhere near Kosovo. Various bridges, schools, hospitals, a chemical plant in Pančevo that almost destroyed the entire city, the Chinese embassy, a bomb fragment fell literally in my family's garden. Hundreds of civilians died, my grandma almost impaled on a table from a bomb shockwave and the glass shattered onto the cradle I was in (I was 1 year old at the time), but luckily my mom placed protection around me just in case. This was on the far north of Serbia.
To be clear, OP is a tankie who shouldn't be given any attention or a platform (I checkes their post history), but the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 was a campaign that caused untold suffering to countless civilians (be it in injuries, deaths, or just going through every day not knowing whether you and your loved ones will be alive tomorrow) that had absolutely nothing to do with Kosovo, something that left scars in society that are still felt. It was not simply "disturbing a genocide". Not to mention that it was an attack launched without the approval of the UN.
I have never met anyone who supports NATO
What a blessed life 🥲
I can't seem to find anyone in real life who doesn't.
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Me too comrade
I support NATO, in the sense that if NATO dissolved Europe would get eaten like a three-course meal by Russia. Ukraine shows that all too clearly. it has many problems, though.
There's no evidence of this, though. Scaremongering about Russia taking Paris and whatnot has no economic backing. Russia has been clear about why it invaded Ukraine, it wants to demillitarize it as it was cozying up to NATO, and NATO has been encircling Russia for decades. If NATO didn't exist, there would be no reason for the Russo-Ukrainian war to begin with, as Russia doesn't stand to gain much, if anything, economically.
I fully support Europe being destroyed
Nope.
Those questions are not tough for them at all. The propaganda has it covered and they will give some version of "we tried our gosh darned best to bring the savages freedom and democracy but their barbarian culture was simply too primitive".
Its pretty hard at this conjunction in time, they used to be able to get away justifying these interventions with the "stopping genocide" card, but they can't say that now that they're enabling Israel. The facade of virtuousness has fallen.