Mr. White is one of the good ones

The Great in MAGA is not about having a great

quality of life
affordability
healthcare
education
etc

It's about great power for the elite, and maintaining the hegemony and oligarchy in place.

Anything else reaching the general population are the leftovers.

Make America Great Again (for the rich)
- When has it ever not been great for the rich? I guess that time we inconvenience them for a few years taking their slaves away.
- Make Age Gilded Again

Speaking of MAGA, I recently heard a history professor say that, regarding fascism, your society is in trouble when you feel the need to assure yourself that you're not going to be targeted because you're in a "safe" group.

How about when you're anxious and taking fairly extreme precautions because you know you're not in a "safe" group?
- Then you are probably not worried about the question whether your society is in trouble or not, you know it.

America (or any other country) was never great in the past, they just claim that because it is easier to sell "going back" to a time in the past people remember fondly than to change things to something completely new (like entirely new forms of exploitation by the rich). And for some reason people are too stupid to understand that doing the same things as in the past despite drastically different circumstances wouldn't even yield the same outcomes.

I hear that before all those illegal immigrants showed up in those big sailing ships things weren't THAT bad.

Let's be honest, they didn't send their best. ¯(ツ)/¯
- They sent middle eastern (side of the Atlantic) religious fundamentalists over from Europe to the west.
  Some were rapists, I'm sure some of them were nice people.

Same for us Native Americans the last time things were “great” here this place was know as “unknown territory”

What about those nice blankets the white settlers gave you?

Dude is funny. To be funny you need to be smart. If you pair that with a bit of empathy you get a decent human being. That is the formula.

Once you finally realize that America is one big collective scam and we’re simply seeing the paint scratch off and the old advertising fail on the new generations, it all makes sense. The working class exists here as a constant resource for the wealthy. We’re slaves that are finally discovering the end of the leash. They know the jig is up so now they’re fast-tracking all of the upward wealth shifts, while essentially trying to kill off or shut out our most vulnerable communities. They want the Israel model but without the universal healthcare (which we all pay for but can’t even get ourselves).

The US is the pot the ruling class reaches its grubby hands into whenever it needs money for wars and conquering other countries.

The social mobility they sell you is essentially a lottery ticket that the 1% hold regardless.

Ive actually thought about this a lot, specifically since 2020, but for the past 15 years as a white LGBT person.

I think the reason millennials are the ones to make fucked up depression jokes is in part because of the crisis after crisis being shoved in our faces through social media at an extent never really seen before compared to newspaper and TV. But the other part is how we could learn about all the atrocities that have happened. Like, in WWII's Pacific theater, a lot of that never got discussed in school. Or how Korean war or Vietnam war or even civil rights were all just a footnote after the WWII section which took the bulk of my history class's time.

I feel the Internet wasn't mainstream as a kid, at least not in today's sense. My whole family didn't get a Facebook till the 10s. And I think millennials got to see past a lot of the propaganda because even the gov hadn't figured out how to monopolize on the idea. Which I think is why GenZ is turning more fascist. Since the powers that be have figured out how to reach out through YouTube shorts and insta reels or whatever. It's like it skipped millennials for a minute and swung full force once it figured out how to target a generation who grew up on iPads instead of IRC or AIM chats.

To add to that, the black loves matters movement and civil rights in the 2020 era, is the first time there was an awakening to white folks like me at a deeper level to start researching heavily into what civil rights even meant beyond who MLKJr was and who the Black Panthers even were beside 'militant black people.'

I feel like the 2020 era was when white millennials as a whole, but also Gen X and Z to a degree, started to really see how much systemic injustice really effects us all, but especially POC and native Americans. I only had a vague awareness of anything up until I was in my 20s.

Now, the more I learn of the struggles, the more I can see how easy it is to be buried by propaganda. So when I hear "make America great again" all I can think is how it was finally starting to be truly great with progressive movements and that my definition of 'great' hasn't even existed before.

And as a final note, that making America great again, to the standards of those who tout that concept as a banner, is to revert to where everyone who's in the struggle together just goes back into silence and submission.

And that ain't too great, imo.

On reading the title, and small thumbnail, I was wondering what Harvey Keitel had been saying.

Yeah it would be nice if he were in power

January 20, 2009 12:00-12:05 EST?